Classic Beyonder,Infinites & Abraxas vs DC Universe

Can the muti-versal cosmic beings defeat DC Universe

Beyonder- http://www.marvel.com/universe/Beyonder

Infinites- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/infinites.htm

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Abraxas- http://www.marvel.com/universe/Abraxas

Classic Beyonder Millions of times the powers of the multiverse
Infinites- Manhandled the M-Body of Eternity. They exist on the multiversal scale
Abraxas- Another multiversal being.

If you don't include the Presence. Beyonder owns everyone.
With the Presence. I don't know.

Presence is omnipotent Presence wins.

Without the Presence, Great Evil Beast wins.

Beyonder is weaker than the Presence because Beyonder gave "half" of his power to Dazzler. If Beyonder was omnipotent, his power would have been infinite, thus half of infinity would still be infinity, and he wouldn't have lost any power on the deal.

The Presence I thought gave Spectre 95% of his powers?

I am sorry but GEB might and I mean might beat one of these guys but not all of them.

Originally posted by golem370
I am sorry but GEB might and I mean might beat one of these guys but not all of them.

😑 😑 😑 Do you know who GEB is?

I heard of him

The very existence of the GEB proves the Presence is not as omnipotent as many would have us believe.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
The very existence of the GEB proves the Presence is not as omnipotent as many would have us believe.

🙄 please dont start this rubbish, we dont know the very nature of the GEB it could be said his purpose it all part of the presence grand scheme.

Originally posted by golem370
I heard of him

😆 😂 🤣 maybe you should read up on him rather than taking what you have heard at face value.

Well what I heard was he is one of the most powerful characters in DC

Originally posted by Supreme being
🙄 please dont start this rubbish, we dont know the very nature of the GEB it could be said his purpose it all part of the presence grand scheme.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
🙄 Grand-scheme. HA. Thats a very typical answer. Presence, Yahweh is no where near perfect.

You're confusing Yahweh from Vertigo (Saints of Killers) and the Presence (DC/Lucifer)

Yahweh was a pussy.

The Presence on the other hand has no feats other than being all powerful that make makes Lucifer and Michael seem like bugs.

Originally posted by Draco69
You're confusing Yahweh from Vertigo (Saints of Killers) and the Presence (DC/Lucifer)

Yahweh was a pussy.

The Presence on the other hand has no feats other than being all powerful that make makes Lucifer and Michael seem like bugs.

Four words: Power of the Writers . . .

A writer can destroy and recreate "a universe" (Just one DC universe?)
as many times he like, if it later gets produced is an other thing.

If Beyonder could manipulate Marvel Multiverse, and everyhing beyond it (emptyness) with such ease.
Why would he have problem with a DC universe, or the DC unvierse?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
When the GEB defeated the Spectre (by showing him the true heaven) he refered to Yawhew as the Presence.

Apparently Yahweh is PART of the Presence. It's not the Presence him/her/itself.

Just like Spectre is "part" of the Presence, Yahweh is "part" of the Presence.

I'm referring to DC Yahweh not Vertigo Yahweh who got shot by a gun....

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Originally posted by Endless Mike
Presence is omnipotent Presence wins.

Without the Presence, Great Evil Beast wins.

Beyonder is weaker than the Presence because Beyonder gave "half" of his power to Dazzler. If Beyonder was omnipotent, his power would have been infinite, thus half of infinity would still be infinity, and he wouldn't have lost any power on the deal.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Four words: Power of the Writers . . .

A writer can destroy and recreate "a universe" (Just one DC universe?)
as many times he like, if it later gets produced is an other thing.

If Beyonder could manipulate Marvel Multiverse, and everyhing beyond it (emptyness) with such ease.
Why would he have problem with a DC universe, or the DC unvierse?

Well, we can go into legal terminology. If Beyonder has the "power of the writers" that means Beyonder has the power of the MARVEL writers who are legally obligated to write for Marvel.

A Marvel writer cannot write or influence the DC Universe without the editor's consent.

Like Stephen King can't influence anything in the Harry Potter verse.

Thus Beyonder is powerless against a DCU character.

Stan Lee said implied he had the power of a Marvel writer...who can't do sh*t in the DCU....

Originally posted by Draco69
Apparently Yahweh is PART of the Presence. It's not the Presence him/her/itself.

Just like Spectre is "part" of the Presence, Yahweh is "part" of the Presence.

I'm referring to DC Yahweh not Vertigo Yahweh who got shot by a gun....

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
You mean the saint?
Peacher?
The gun was actually forged out of a sword smithed by God.

Yeah, but being an all-powerful being, ya think he coulda dodged the bullet or just teleport out of the way....