Who can dodge bullets?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Cap has dodged lasers in zero gravity. I think Origins was bad writing. Wolverine is not stupid but he should not have been able to beat Cap like that. Also Cap was behaving like Wolverine and Wolverine was behaving like Cap. Cap is usually the calm one not Wolverine. Dodging Cyclops optic blast just proves he is faster than Cyclops.

Do you have any scans of that? I am not arguing with you, as I said, I don't have many Cap comics, therefore I cannot really argue convincingly either for or against him. I do have scans of DD (Ultimate DD) admitting he cannot dodge bullets, therefore I know he can be disqualified.

As for Wolverine, as I stated, I am citing Wikipedia as my source, which while it did not CONVINCE me that he can dodge bullets, it did make me consider the argument in a more favourable light. And I haven't read Origins yet, I was halfway through when I found out I didn't have all the issues, so I am waiting until I get everything before I continue.

But I'd like to see some scans of Cap's feats - is there a Respect thread for him?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well if you are comparing Ultimate to the mainstream this does not count. For example Ultimate Cap is stronger and not a good fighter as the mainstream Cap, also Ultimate Wolverine is not as durable as the mainstream Wolverine.

Are you saying Ultimate DD is slower than mainstream DD? I am a bit far from civilisation (read Africa 😛 ) so I get my comics very irregularly, and they are VERY expensive, because everything has to be imported, therefore I did not think there was much difference between Ultimate DD and mainstream DD.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
No, he can't - not Ultimate DD, anyway - see the scans posted where he admits it himself, as Punisher is shooting at him, and deliberately missing, in Ultimate Team-Up. Can't remember the issue, but here is the link http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=424776&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=3

Id assume that Ultimate DD isnt as skilled as 616 DD then. I dont have many Ultimate DD appearances, but 616 DD has made it clear that he sees the bullets while they are already fired as they cut throught the air which makes it easy to dodge between the bullets.

Gotta love that radar.

Couple of other examples.

comics arent reality folks

any hero CAN dodge bullets, and for the most part, guns are useless (underpowered?) in comics.

Put this into the real world, and no, most of the heros listed couldn't dodge (in the traditional sense) a bullet that reacts according to the known laws of physics.

That also means that catching or deflecting or any of that stuff is bogus as well.

However, comics, not reality, so it really doesnt matter.

Who wants to read a book about a sniper capping Batman with a headshot from over a mile away? nobody, because its lame. If captain america got shot up by a REAL soldier with REAL skills with a m4 or whatever, it wouldn't be the comic you want to read.

Originally posted by Alfheim
The movement was a power because you need to have superhuman reflexes to catch a bullet no amount of training will teach you how to do it if you are peak human.

Except for the fact that it's Taskmaster. He was able to move twice as fast the human body allowed, just by tweaking his training technique a bit. He can catch bullets if he wants.

What? DD cant dodge bullets? R U f ****ing insane?..look here ppl. when it comes to dodging projectiles DD is the boss of all f ****ing bosses. i dont know about ulitmate DD but with 616 if there is something to dodge, catch or swat out of mid air he's your guy trust me> P.S i was gonna save this for scoob's thread but here is as good as any place

get that shit outta here

3

dodging tank fire

doing his thing

bleh

dodging something fired by bullseye...yeah that bullseye

yeah that bullseye

multiple arrows are nothing either

multiple speary things are nothing

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Do you have any scans of that? I am not arguing with you, as I said, I don't have many Cap comics, therefore I cannot really argue convincingly either for or against him. I do have scans of DD (Ultimate DD) admitting he cannot dodge bullets, therefore I know he can be disqualified.

As for Wolverine, as I stated, I am citing Wikipedia as my source, which while it did not CONVINCE me that he can dodge bullets, it did make me consider the argument in a more favourable light. And I haven't read Origins yet, I was halfway through when I found out I didn't have all the issues, so I am waiting until I get everything before I continue.

But I'd like to see some scans of Cap's feats - is there a Respect thread for him?

Yeah theres a Captain America respect thread. Click on this link below.

http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=100779

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Are you saying Ultimate DD is slower than mainstream DD? I am a bit far from civilisation (read Africa 😛 ) so I get my comics very irregularly, and they are VERY expensive, because everything has to be imported, therefore I did not think there was much difference between Ultimate DD and mainstream DD.

Well I was saying that some Ultimate characters are either stronger or weaker than there mainstream counterparts. According to what jordlsam showed in his scans the mainstream DD can dodge bullets.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Except for the fact that it's Taskmaster. He was able to move twice as fast the human body allowed, just by tweaking his training technique a bit. He can catch bullets if he wants.

Ok but dont complain next time a street leveller is able to hurt Spiderman and fool spider man senses.

oh where was i? ah yes DD playing baseball with bullets...get that shit OUTTA HERE!!

BATTER UP

dodging more bullets