Originally posted by the Darkone
I fell sorry for you, you like living in the dark instead of the light.
This quote means absolutely nothing to me. It is simply your subjective perception and nothing more. You know nothing about my life, so do not attempt to judge, lest ye want to be further laughted at.
Originally posted by the Darkone
You want to sin and do all the wick things that mankind does in their life.
Oh Brother 🙄
And you know this how ? Do you truly beleive all perspectives are relative and based on your own Faith alone? How foolish
I don't want to "sin". The word "sin" means nothing to me, absolutely nothing at all. My desires and goals in life have nothing to do with this social construct.
All I want to do in life is be happy, help as many people as possible, and gain as much pleasurable and educational experience as possible.
FYI- I plan to organize charities when my career hits a boost. I also plan to fully invest myself to Human Rights and Social Rights organizations....if I do not achieve those goals in my lifetime, I will feel like a failure.
You make judgements on me, and truly know nothing about me. How typical....you really give your religion a negative stereotype in doing so.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Jesus died for your sins and mines and everybody else's, if you don't believe fine then you are risking your your eternal soul on the line.
1) "mines" is not a word. It's mine- GOD why is it that so many religious debators can't spell ?
2) I do not beleive. Prove to me I am risking my eternal soul, prove to me that a soul even exists, and prove to me that Hell exists. If you simply use the Bible as your "evidense" I will then ask you to prove the Bible's validity.
If you cannot do so, then I will disregard your entire argument...that is assuming I haven't already disregarded it now.
Originally posted by the Darkone
God is good, with him in my life everything is changing for the good I'll have to do is relax and he will take care of everything, and everything I want out of life will come to me in due time.
When I had "God in my life"- meaning when I was Christian for 18 years- I was in total confusion, self-conflict, and immature.
Now that I outgrew my insecurities, and outgrew my original Faith, I am a lot more certain, secure, and happy with my life and self.
If Christianity works for you, then that's Great ! I encourage you to continue your Faith. It doesn't work for me, so please stop trying to press it, it won't work.
I have given Christianity 18 years of my life, and it's been a waste.
Originally posted by the Darkone
How are you calling a fool, if anybody here is the fool is you.
Explain how I am more foolish than you....we both beleive things we cannot prove. I'd say we're equally foolish.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Because you like to sin and don't have to pay the consenquences, keep mocking and keep turning your back on the lord, tomarrow is never promise to you or me, we are a breath away of seeing God himself.
A false, typical, and meaningless accusation.
How do you know I like to sin ? you think I live my life for the sole purpose to acting against your imaginary God ? I live for other goals that have nothing to do with your Faith.
The word "sin" means nothing to me, so your points are falling on deaf ears.
I will only beleive in your God's existance when he makes himself present to this world. Otherwise, it is nothing more to me than mythology which borrowed previous mythology, and I will not fear something that I do not beleive exists.
Originally posted by the Darkone
And depends which God you are going to see, the loving God who welcomes you into heaven or the angry God who will destroyed your body and also your soul.
Your God claims to be both....Your God is the same who created Hell, banished Adam and Eve, sent the Angel of Death to kill the first born sons of Egypt, used a flood to destroy civilizations, sent the horrible plagues, endows creative punishments, allows Satan to harass and tempt us, sent his OWN SON to bloodshed, and demands blood in exchange for forgiveness.
Your God is also the same God whose followers had burnt "witches" alive at the stake, tortured people during the Spanish Inquistion, slaughter muslims during the Crusades, and nearly wipe out the Native Americans in this country.
Your God has a bad rep in my book, so I have no desire to meet this Divine hypocrit.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
This quote means absolutely nothing to me. It is simply your subjective perception and nothing more. You know [b]nothing about my life, so do not attempt to judge, lest ye want to be further laughted at.Oh Brother 🙄
And you know this how ? Do you truly beleive all perspectives are relative and based on your own Faith alone? How foolish
I don't want to "sin". The word "sin" means nothing to me, absolutely nothing at all. My desires and goals in life have nothing to do with this social construct.
All I want to do in life is be happy, help as many people as possible, and gain as much pleasurable and educational experience as possible.
FYI- I plan to organize charities when my career hits a boost. I also plan to fully invest myself to Human Rights and Social Rights organizations....if I do not achieve those goals in my lifetime, I will feel like a failure.
You make judgements on me, and truly know nothing about me. How typical....you really give your religion a negative stereotype in doing so.
1) "mines" is not a word. It's mine- GOD why is it that so many religious debators can't spell ?
2) I do not beleive. Prove to me I am risking my eternal soul, prove to me that a soul even exists, and prove to me that Hell exists. If you simply use the Bible as your "evidense" I will then ask you to prove the Bible's validity.
If you cannot do so, then I will disregard your entire argument...that is assuming I haven't already disregarded it now.
When I had "God in my life"- meaning when I was Christian for 18 years- I was in total confusion, self-conflict, and immature.
Now that I outgrew my insecurities, and outgrew my original Faith, I am a lot more certain, secure, and happy with my life and self.
If Christianity works for you, then that's Great ! I encourage you to continue your Faith. It doesn't work for me, so please stop trying to press it, it won't work.
I have given Christianity 18 years of my life, and it's been a waste. [/B]
The way you speak, its like you're living a waste now more than ever before.
Originally posted by Up In Flames
When the atheists question our belief, we open our hearts and confront it with truth and honesty.
Yes, by telling us what "evil" and "disgusting" people us non-believers are, telling us how your loving God will send us to Hell to burn and suffer for the rest of our miserable little eternities.
You JUDGE......your opinions may be honest, but that does not make your assertion Truth.
Don't fkn cry about how we critisize your Faith when you critisize our lifestyles, point of views, and personas.
Originally posted by Up In Flames
Typical.
Don't even get me started 🙄
Originally posted by Up In Flames
The way you speak, its like you're living a waste now more than ever before.
And why is that? Because I speak with sincerity ?
I am very angry at the fact that so many people blindly fall into these lies. Maybe you don't watch politics, maybe you don't keep track of the events that occur in this world, but I DO.
While you ignore everything and only stick your face in the Bible, I actually LOOK at what I can at this world and see such injustices occuring.
Hatred, Bias, and Suffering is HARD to IGNORE, and to ADDRESS these things is HARDLY what I would call a waste
Now...Living in FEAR of an imaginary MYTH and using this Myth to judge and condemn people...yes, that I see a a WASTE.
Like I said in the Abortion forum, you're either absolutely right or absolutely wrong. Our belief is based on the fact that Jesus spoke the truth. And, of course, if what you say or believe is contrary to that, it means you are wrong. Plain and simple. We dont judge. We base our beliefs on the laws of God.
We dont say you are evil, we say sin is evil. We speak on behalf of the bible, and not ourselves (as you atheists do). We are obedient servants to our creator. We share what we believe and know in the hope that more people accept this truth.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
And why is that? Because I speak with sincerity ?I am very angry at the fact that so many people blindly fall into these lies. Maybe you don't watch politics, maybe you don't keep track of the events that occur in this world, but I DO.
While you ignore everything and only stick your face in the Bible, I actually LOOK at what I can at this world and see such injustices occuring.
Hatred, Bias, and Suffering is HARD to IGNORE, and to ADDRESS these things is HARDLY what I would call a waste
Now...[b]Living in FEAR
of an imaginary MYTH and using this Myth to judge and condemn people...yes, that I see a a WASTE. [/B]
Is that right... you think I dont watch the news? You think Im unaware of the world? Its you who dont see the truth. The world we live in very much reaks of corruption and immorality. People all over the world blindly mistake greed for success. We live in a world that success means becoming richer. You may ask, "Well how is that a sin?" The answer lies in the imbalance of wealth in the world. I truly believe that world-wide poverty can be ended, but for that to happen, the super rich people have to become generous. People like Donald Trump and Bill Gates. These people thrive on poverty, for they know that they would have to give up their wealth for the world to be a better place.
If there is anyone who is living in ignorance, its you. You do not see the real crimes taking place. You fail to realise the vast conspiracy surrounding you. You turn a deaf ear to those who try to tell you the plain truth.
Yes, you are living a wasteful life.
Originally posted by Up In Flames
Is that right... you think I dont watch the news? You think Im unaware of the world? Its you who dont see the truth. The world we live in very much reaks of corruption and immorality.
The Truth is that immorality and corruption derive from ALL aspects of our world. Christianity, Atheism, Islam, Capitalism, Communism, Homosexuality, Heterosexuality, etc.etc.etc. ARE ALL imperfect, and bad things are done by all people who apply to these and all other categories.
No one is "purely good", so please don't claim that you are some angel in the midst of demons, you are just as capable of evil as we all are.
The suffering that occurs in this world is not due in part to your imaginary devil. It is our OWN faults, because WE as a HUMAN RACE have not collectively learn how to Love and Accept one another as One.
Originally posted by Up In Flames
People all over the world blindly mistake greed for success.
George W Bush, Dick Cheney, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Ann Coulter, and Sean Hannity, all Evangelical Christians are guilty of what you just mentioned above.
Originally posted by Up In Flames
We live in a world that success means becoming richer. .
Tell that to the Christian Conservative Right Wing, our mass of money hungry, morally corrupt Republicans who use the Church as a means to gain more money and power.
Originally posted by Up In Flames
You may ask, "Well how is that a sin?" The answer lies in the imbalance of wealth in the world. .
Brother, you are preaching to the preacher. I am fully aware of this corruption that Conservatives AND Liberals alike are guilty of across our nation and across this world.
Originally posted by Up In Flames
I truly believe that world-wide poverty can be ended, but for that to happen, the super rich people have to become generous. .
I AGREE WITH YOU 100%
Tell that to the EVANGELICAL ELITE who are the TOP 5% of people who contain 70% of the nations wealth.
Originally posted by Up In Flames
People like Donald Trump and Bill Gates. These people thrive on poverty, for they know that they would have to give up their wealth for the world to be a better place..
You forgot George W Bush, Dick Cheney, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and Ann Coulter.
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Originally posted by Up In Flames
If there is anyone who is living in ignorance, its you. ..
How ? I see the exact corruption you are talking about, and agree with you. I have been arguing this forever, where have you been ?
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Originally posted by Up In Flames
You do not see the real crimes taking place. You fail to realise the vast conspiracy surrounding you. You turn a deaf ear to those who try to tell you the plain truth...
Poverty is a real crime, as is Greed.
But so is Hatred. And as of now, Hatred is most directly fueled by powerful and hypocritical Christian Elite.
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Originally posted by Up In Flames
Yes, you are living a wasteful life.
How ? Because I don't beleive in your imaginary God ?
I am a compassionate person, and i ALREADY SAID that helping to put a STOP to social poverty, injustice, and bigotry are my GOALS in life...have you been reading ANYTHING I fkn said ?
Oh but I guess those GOALS don't mean sh*t to you unless thier accompanied by a belief in an imaginary deity and an imaginary realm to eternal suffering. 🙄
Re: 2007 Rapture?
http://www.2007rapture.com/vision/
I already know what true believers in Jesus Christ are thinking that no person knows the day nor hour of the catching away (i.e. rapture) of the church. I was very cautious reading the articles from this link because I know that there are many false prophets in these last days. All I ask you to do is to read this women's testimony and judge this prophetic word by the Bible. Prayerfully study every Scripture on the subject of the rapture. Ask the Father God to reveal to you whether this woman's prophecy is true or false.
She mentions something that I have never thought of. She states that Jesus said that no one (not even Jesus) knows the day nor hour of the rapture. But here is what she said that riveted my attention: she said that no one knows the day or hour but that Jesus said nothing about year or season. She states that God gave her the year and season but not the day nor hour of the rapture. She said that Jesus will catch away His church in the summer of 2007 (June 21-September 21).
Folks, I am the most Scripturally sound, based, accurate, person that I know. I do not deviate from the Scriptures. But when she said that God gave her the year and season I was somewhat dumbfounded because it was something that I never thought about. I will let you all judge this prophecy by the Bible, for the Scriptures instruct us to judge all prophecies by the Word of God for verification.
I urge all of you to read the whole thing before coming to a conclusion. You always have the option of disregarding this article. But give it equal time.
Re: Re: 2007 Rapture?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But here is what she said that riveted my attention: she said that no one knows the day or hour but that Jesus said nothing about [B]year or season. She states that God gave her the year and season but not the day nor hour of the rapture. She said that Jesus will catch away His church in the summer of 2007 (June 21-September 21).[/B]
I think she should learn a bit more about apocalyptic literature. It's never that literal. And this especially in light of Acts 1:7 --
He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority;
Re: Re: 2007 Rapture?
Originally posted by Devil King
Well then you better get your emergency rapture kit together. Essential in every kit? Your bible, several bottles of holy water, a travel pack of communion waffers and at least 6 D batteries. And if you're a true christian, a copy of Jesus Camp on DVD. It should be out by then.
Re: Re: Re: 2007 Rapture?
Originally posted by Ytse
I think she should learn a bit more about apocalyptic literature. It's never that literal. And this especially in light of Acts 1:7 --He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority;
God has always warned His people of His wrath to come. He warned Noah and Lot. Besides the Bible states that we are not in darkness that the Day of the Lord should overtake us as a thief.
1 Thessalonians 5:1-6
1 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 5 You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober.