Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You cannot prove that Bill Wiese is lying, in fact the case for him telling the truth is more plausible and credible than him telling a lie.C'mon Boris, no need to get scared. Jesus can keep you from going to Hell if you ask him to save you. The picture of the demon is obviously a depiction of what Bill Wiese saw in Hell.
Well, let me tell you, just now, I was whisked to Hell. And hot damn, it's one cool place to be, everything in the Bible is backwards, Hell is the good place, Heaven is bad. Satan is a great man! Now.. am I lying?
The case for him lying is, that people like you will actually believe his bullshit and get scared into believe in God, scared that if you don't do what the bible says you'll go to hell, thats the case for him lying. If he were to actually tell the truth.. well, he'd be out of a job and a hell of alot of money.
Again, How can Jesus do anything, the man has been dead for thousands of years. Dead people don't do anything except rot like the corpse they are.
Bill Wiese saw nothing in Hell, he wasn't there, it doesn't exist. He simply want's money. Your money, and I bet he, or someone like him is getting it.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You cannot prove that Bill Wiese is lying, in fact the case for him telling the truth is more plausible and credible than him telling a lie.C'mon Boris, no need to get scared. Jesus can keep you from going to Hell if you ask him to save you. The picture of the demon is obviously a depiction of what Bill Wiese saw in Hell.
Ever think that maybe, just maybe his visions could have been caused by a chemical imbalance in his neurotransmitters? This could have been caused by cardiac arrest, or the adrenaline processed in the resuscitation process. An increased amount of dopamine can make these things seem completely real, take LSD and you'll see.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[b]Say this prayer from your heart:Lord Jesus, I confess that You are Lord, and I believe with all of my heart that God raised You from the dead. I call upon Your Name for salvation. Also Lord Jesus, I repent from all of my sins. Thank You for saving me and giving me everlasting life now.
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shock LOOK EVERYONE! JIA IS BLASPHEMING!
I just starting reading the first page and look what I found.
So, basically, Mr. Super Christian, you just said that god and Jesus aren't one in the same, which they are. Because by saying that God raised Jesus from the dead, you are saying the Jesus needed some outside help, when every good Christian knows that Jesus raised himself up because, duh, he is God.
So, go away now you silly heretic.
Originally posted by Naz
No it's not. 🙄 I've read Revelation, no where in there does it mention the word "Rapture" or say that all the good Christians will be saved from all the shitty stuff that God deals out.
First, the word Rapture is not in the Book of Revelation. Second, the word Rapture is derived from the Greek word "harpazo" which means "to seize, carry off by force, to seize on, claim for one's self eagerly, to snatch out or away." Third, the word harpazo is translated "caught up." Finally, the word harpazo, i.e. Rapture, or caught up is found in the Book of 1 Thessalonians 4:17.
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Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Ever think that maybe, just maybe his visions could have been caused by a chemical imbalance in his neurotransmitters? This could have been caused by cardiac arrest, or the adrenaline processed in the resuscitation process. An increased amount of dopamine can make these things seem completely real, take LSD and you'll see.
Not hardly, not likely, and not the case. Question: did you listen to Bill Wiese's testimony from beginning to end?
Originally posted by Naz
shock LOOK EVERYONE! JIA IS BLASPHEMING!
I just starting reading the first page and look what I found.So, basically, Mr. Super Christian, you just said that god and Jesus aren't one in the same, which they are. Because by saying that God raised Jesus from the dead, you are saying the Jesus needed some outside help, when every good Christian knows that Jesus raised himself up because, duh, he is God.
So, go away now you silly heretic.
Jesus is not the Father God, Jesus is the Son of God. There is a difference.
So, no, Jesus did not raise Himself, His Father raised Him from the dead.
Originally posted by Naz
Or are not Catholic. 🙄
As long as you believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. You will be caught up into the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Be careful to maintain good works (for God's glory not to be saved) and and to live a holy, consecrated life because without holiness, no one will see the Lord.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Not hardly, not likely, and not the case. Question: did you listen to his testimony from beginning to end?
I've read his testimony before now, not listened to. I've also read and heard testimonies from schizophrenics and some of them are just as believable. Would you be as Happy to believe him if he came back with the message that heaven and hell do not exist? I think not.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
whats all this worms in hell talk?
One of the disadvantages of suffering in Hell are the worms that are there to increase the degree of torment. Jesus talked about these worms in Mark 9:43-48.
Mark 9:43-48
43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands, to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched—
44 where
‘ Their worm does not die
And the fire is not quenched.’
45 And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame, rather than having two feet, to be cast into hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched— 46 where
‘ Their worm does not die
And the fire is not quenched.’
47 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire—
48 where
‘ Their worm does not die
And the fire is not quenched.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus is not the Father God, Jesus is the Son [B]of God. There is a difference.So, no, Jesus did not raise Himself, His Father raised Him from the dead. [/B]
Are you trying to say that Jesus is not God and thus does not have the powers of God? 😐 Because in that case you would denying that there is a Trinity.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
One of the disadvantages of suffering in Hell are the worms that are there to increase the degree of torment. Jesus talked about these worms in Mark 9:43-48.[B]Mark 9:43-48
43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands, to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched—44 where
‘ Their worm does not die
And the fire is not quenched.’45 And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame, rather than having two feet, to be cast into hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched— 46 where
‘ Their worm does not die
And the fire is not quenched.’47 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire—
48 where
‘ Their worm does not die
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And the fire is not quenched.
Worms are a metaphor for death. 🙄
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
As long as you believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. You will be caught up into the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Be careful to maintain good works (for God's glory not to be saved) and and to live a holy, consecrated life because without holiness, no one will see the Lord.
no2 I've talked to many different denominations of Protestants. Catholics aren't saved.
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I've read his testimony before now, not listened to. I've also read and heard testimonies from schizophrenics and some of them are just as believable. Would you be as Happy to believe him if he came back with the message that heaven and hell do not exist? I think not.
No one (not one person) who has ever died and gone into eternity and come back has ever denied the existence of Heaven and Hell. In fact, the opposite is true. Everytime a person dies and his/her spirit goes off into eternity and then returns to his/her body, the individual affirms what the Bible states.
Your reply, JIA?