2007 Rapture?

Started by Boris65 pages
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is overwhelming evidence for God's existence

Show me, without quoting or talking about the Bible.

Originally posted by Boris
Show me, without quoting or talking about the Bible.

First, show me that there is not overwhelming evidence for God's existence, afterwards I will provide this evidence.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is overwhelming evidence for God's existence, but there is none that refutes this.

Chillmeistergen, prove to me that God does not exist.

For a start that's not the way it works, you prove the existence of something.
I also have no desire to prove anything, I'm happy with the way I conduct my life, I think I'm a good person. I don't need another hierarchy to tell me that. I've already told you I'm agnostic, to be honest even if I knew God existed, I don't think I'd lead life any differently.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
So a serial killer who believes in God will get into heaven. But a hardworking single mother who juggles three jobs, in order to give her children a good life won't? See what's wrong here?

You don't understand God's standard of rigteousness. Nothing (absolutely nothing) that you do in your own strength or merit will make it possible for you to go to Heaven. No person is good enough to get into Heaven. It does not matter how many jobs you work, money you give, lives you help, Bibles you read, church services you attend, how many times you are baptized, how much you fast, how many masses you attend, hail mary's you recite, meccas you take, times you bow--without Jesus Christ no one will make into Heaven. The sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross (i.e. His death, burial, and resurrection) is the only way to get into Heaven. Jesus is the Way to God in Heaven. Jesus is the Door to God in Heaven. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life (i.e. everlasting life). No one comes to the Father (i.e. God) except through Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
First, show me that there is not overwhelming evidence for God's existence, afterwards I will provide this evidence.

Erm.. look around you? What is there? The so called Bible, and that is it. Throughout all of recorded human history that one single book is the only thing that says there is a god. And that isn't even evidence, it's a book wrote by men.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
For a start that's not the way it works, you prove the existence of something.
I also have no desire to prove anything, I'm happy with the way I conduct my life, I think I'm a good person. I don't need another hierarchy to tell me that. I've already told you I'm agnostic, to be honest even if I knew God existed, I don't think I'd lead life any differently.

This does not change the fact that you are a sinner destined to spend eternity in Hell unless you choose Jesus Christ before you die.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You don't understand God's standard of rigteousness. Nothing (absolutely nothing) that you do in your own strength or merit will make it possible for you to go to Heaven. No person is good enough to get into Heaven. It does not matter how many jobs you work, money you give, lives you help, Bibles you read, church services you attend, how many times you are baptized, how much you fast, how many masses you attend, hail mary's you recite, meccas you take, times you bow--without Jesus Christ no one will make into Heaven. The sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross (i.e. His death, burial, and resurrection) is the only way to get into Heaven. Jesus is the Way to God in Heaven. Jesus is the Door to God in Heaven. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life (i.e. everlasting life). No one comes to the Father (i.e. God) except through Jesus Christ.

Which is why the whole idea is unappealing. People believe because of fear of the unknown, it's a simple command believe this and you will have eternal life. But, it's a hierarchy there's no equality offered, which means it's not essentially a righteous principle, but a selective, exclusive club.

Originally posted by Boris
Erm.. look around you? What is there? The so called Bible, and that is it. Throughout all of recorded human history that one single book is the only thing that says there is a god. And that isn't even evidence, it's a book wrote by men.

The DNA molecule is one major evidence for the existence of God. How do you explain its complication Boris?

I'm not an expert on molecular biology, but claiming that DNA = the existence of God is a joke.

Have a good read of DNA/Origin of Life on Wiki and you'll find your answers.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
For agreeing with His Word? You would lose the bet.

😄

I believe you don't follow his words.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The DNA molecule is one major evidence for the existence of God. How do you explain its complication Boris?

How do you explain the self-assembly of RNA in a reducing/neutral atmosphere?

Originally posted by Boris
I'm not an expert on molecular biology, but claiming that DNA = the existence of God is a joke.

Have a good read of DNA/Origin of Life on Wiki and you'll find your answers.

It really was a rhetorical question Boris designed to jog your mind to think rationally and logically. The atheistic position fails to account for and explain the complexity of even a strand of DNA. One strand of DNA has more information than the entire Encylopedia Britannica and yet you believe that it just came about without an intelligent Designer? Question: did the Encyclopedia Britannica come about without an intelligent designer? Answer me.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
How do you explain the self-assembly of RNA in a reducing/neutral atmosphere?

I believe God created RNA. And you, how do you explain it?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I believe God created RNA. And you, how do you explain it?

The conditions on the early Earth were right for the emergence of life.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I believe God created RNA. And you, how do you explain it?

I've already explained that it's been observed to self-assemble (i.e. on its own) in reducing/neutral atmospheres. Please pay attention.

I've got a question for you JIA, where did Cane and Abel's wives come from?

Originally posted by AngryManatee
I've already explained that it's been observed to self-assemble (i.e. on its own) in reducing/neutral atmospheres. Please pay attention.

RNA needs already living cells to exist. Neither DNA nor RNA will form outside of already living cells.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I've got a question for you JIA, where did Cane and Abel's wives come from?

The Bible does not reveal where Cain's wives came from. But common sense tells us that perhaps they were his sisters.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The Bible does not reveal where Cain and Abel's wives came from. But common sense tells us that perhaps they were their sisters.

Well wouldn't that be disgusting?

Whats your take on the widely accepted theory of evolution then?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
RNA needs already living cells to exist. Neither DNA nor RNA will form outside of already living cells.

Wrong. As I stated before, fragments of RNA have been observed to self-assemble in neutral/reducing atmospheres. Please pay attention.