DC Needs To Make Some F****ing Movies....

Despite a similar number of characters in their universe, it seems DC has fewer options - not as many characters who could grab the publics attention. Plus, being owner by Time Warner could be a drawback, because only one comapny is going to release your films, and they have a limited slate to put out each year. Marvel will soon be going exclusive with Paramount Pictures in the next few years, but they have distribution going with several companies - 20th Century Fox( FF, X-Men, Daredevil, Elektra), Columbia (Spider Man, Ghost Rider), Universal (Hulk), New Line (Blade) and Lions Gate (Punisher). A lot of quantity can mean some crap, sure - but Marvel is winning the battle, aren't they?

Originally posted by roughrider
Despite a similar number of characters in their universe, it seems DC has fewer options - not as many characters who could grab the publics attention. Plus, being owner by Time Warner could be a drawback, because only one comapny is going to release your films, and they have a limited slate to put out each year. Marvel will soon be going exclusive with Paramount Pictures in the next few years, but they have distribution going with several companies - 20th Century Fox( FF, X-Men, Daredevil, Elektra), Columbia (Spider Man, Ghost Rider), Universal (Hulk), New Line (Blade) and Lions Gate (Punisher). A lot of quantity can mean some crap, sure - but Marvel is winning the battle, aren't they?

Thats another thing I forgot. Marvel has liscensed the moive rights to some other companies so they can actually map out their movies to ensure that at least one comes out every year, whereas TW is limited with how many they do at a time.

But I heard that Marvel is gonna try and buy back the rights to some of their movies so that they'll have full creative control. I'm not too sure if anyone else heard about this

Today's CGI effects are more than capable of handling a Green Lantern film.... it may cost a lot and need a hell of a marketing campaign (because hardly anyone outside of comic readers has heard of the GLC) but it should be worth making.... and, dammit, I just want to see it!

DC movies have inane direction acting[castubg] and scripting. and tonsy of merchandising.

DC does make fantastic Animation, Batman Adventures, JLA, Teen Titans, Static Shock[not so much]... the dialogue is always crisp, soundscape taut colours vivid and action aplenty.

The Batman [V2] Animated series is truly terrible

DC puts too much emphasis on a few characters - the entire series 52 focuses on the universe without Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. Like they couldn't possibly get along without them. Would the Marvel Universe fall apart and go into moral decay, if Thor, Captain America and Spider Man weren't around?

Besides the above-metioned three, these are the only other DC characters who have big-screen potential -

Captain Marvel
Green Lantern
Flash
Swamp Thing
Green Arrow
Nightwing (maybe)
Spectre (maybe)
Question (maybe)

Originally posted by Draco69
Maybe if you do a JLA of obscure characters like Vixen, Red Tornado and Black Canary instead of the well-known ones.

Worked with the X-Men. Nobody knew their asses...

Well, the first two focused on pretty well-known characters (Wolverine, for example). Additionally, the entire X2 basically revolved around Wolvie, allowing for some effective writing.

We saw what happened to X3 when they introduced all those mutants, and didn't bother to give them a backstory, or flesh out the characters at all... 😬

Quite simply the reason more DC movies aren't made is because, well, most of them would be really lame.

Wonder Woman is gonna be another Catwoman or Elektra - none of them should have been made. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say any comic movie based on a female lead will bomb. Sounds sexist, yes, but let's face it WW just seems kind of corny for the big screen.

Marvel is sort of the flavor of the moment right now, due to the success of Spider-Man, and studios are trying to cash in. So of course we're gonna see lots of their flicks. As far as DC is concerned, there are only a few possibilities - Kingdom Come, perphaps a Lobo movie, wouldn't mind seeing Darkseid on the big screen - but overall, a lot of the DC characters would just be cheesy in live-action. I mean, c'mon, could you imagine a Teen Titans or JLA movie 😂 Aquaman? Green Lantern? With all due respect to the characters, live action versions of those movies would be disasters. I always find the show Entourage funny because it implies that James Cameron would actually do an Aquaman movie and that it would gross as much as Spidey did. That's just stupid

The ones they really should be making next are GL and Flash, which would be big enough hits (especially Flash). Then they can start with the lesser knowns...however (and sorry, guys that like them) you won't be pulling in a huge audience if you try to market a Hawkman/Hawkwoman(girl, etc) movie in a serious tone.

It could be argued that Marvel characters are cooler. Characters like Blade and Punisher will do well in movies even if people dont know them.

Hmm... nowadays, a lot of people just think comics are pretty lame. I reckon Blade and The Punsiher were MORE popular in taht people didn't even realise they're comic characters. I mean, the Alien "Quadrilogy" is immensey popular but do half the fans realise its based on comics? Nope.

Originally posted by don't shiv
DC movies have inane direction acting[castubg] and scripting. and tonsy of merchandising.

DC does make fantastic Animation, Batman Adventures, JLA, Teen Titans, Static Shock[not so much]... the dialogue is always crisp, soundscape taut colours vivid and action aplenty.

The Batman [V2] Animated series is truly terrible

To be fair , The Batman isn't THAT terrible. But, I do kind of feel sorry for the creators. They're in the shadow of the definitive Batman animated series. They're storylines and characters set the standard for what they'd be for the future, and even affected them in the comics. Now, how's The Batman suppose to compete with that? They couldn't just made a carbon copy of the series, they had to change it up as much as they could, and a lot wasn't for the best. But I guess they're doing okay enough, since they're going into their 4th season. And they got some of the DCAU creative team (like Andrea Romano) so that should help a lot.

Anyway, back to the topic.

Originally posted by roughrider
Besides the above-metioned three, these are the only other DC characters who have big-screen potential -

Captain Marvel
Green Lantern
Flash
Swamp Thing
Green Arrow
Nightwing (maybe)
Spectre (maybe)
Question (maybe)

Nightwing could work, but only if they make sure to stay true to the character and tie it in with the Batman mythos. Like show the occasional flashbacks of Dick's time in the circus, his parents' death, his time with Batman (which the could bring Christian Bale back for), etc. Get Wolfman to help with the script, and you probably have a hit.

Oh, and Deathstroke would have to be the villain. I don't see it working any other way.

Originally posted by boriquaking55
Wonder Woman is gonna be another Catwoman or Elektra - none of them should have been made. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say any comic movie based on a female lead will bomb. Sounds sexist, yes, but let's face it WW just seems kind of corny for the big screen.

Wonder Woman may not be the best movie, but I have faith in Whedon. It won't be a box-office smash, but it definitely won't bomb.

Originally posted by Doc Potato
Hmm... nowadays, a lot of people just think comics are pretty lame. I reckon Blade and The Punsiher were MORE popular in taht people didn't even realise they're comic characters. I mean, the Alien "Quadrilogy" is immensey popular but do half the fans realise its based on comics? Nope.

You have it backwards. Actually, the Alien comics are based off the movies.

The only other DC movie that I think could really have the potential to rake in some big bucks (other than the franchises already started) is the Flash.

the flash is quite well known along with batman and superman, although it goes in this order of well known: -

1. superman
2. batman
3. the flash
4.wonder woman
then the rest fall behind these guys, green lantern isn't that well known outside of dc, most people who follow marvel still know who the top three are but not many know anymore dc characters, so flash will definitely do well, it would be interesting on how they perceive him using his speed and what effects they'll use to show it.

People don't need to "know" the comic book character in order for a movie to be made.

The general public didn't know who the f*ck Blade or Punisher or Elektra or Daredevil were before the movie came out....

Yeah but you should never use Elektra as an example of anything positive lol.

Too many DC movies have the potential to just bomb. These include the Hawks that I mentioned earlier, but it also includes Captain Marvel. If you saw that guy in a movie and you weren't a fan of it, you'd automatically think it was extremely cheesy and gay - which means they'd have to take a comedic approach, which would piss the fans off. Wonder Woman has definite failure potential. Why? Well, for one, look at how every other woman-based action film has been doing recently. They've all been poor at the box office and nobody seems to care. Now, look at all of the films recently that have failed that are along the lines of Alexander, Troy, etc. You group these types of things together and you don't really have a blockbuster lol.

DC needs to definitely start stepping it up, but they need to be careful. Release good films about interesting characters like The Question, GL, Flash, Green Arrow...but don't get caught up like Marvel is doing, and auction EVERYTHING off. I guarantee you that Ant-Man isn't going to be taken seriously at all, and if they ever go along with Iron Fist, same goes for that. They're going overboard and focusing less on what they should be doing, and instead, just want as many films out as possible. Its about time Iron Man got his own movie, but why did we have Elektra before this? Lol.

Originally posted by MattDay
the flash is quite well known along with batman and superman, although it goes in this order of well known: -

1. superman
2. batman
3. the flash
4.wonder woman
then the rest fall behind these guys, green lantern isn't that well known outside of dc, most people who follow marvel still know who the top three are but not many know anymore dc characters, so flash will definitely do well, it would be interesting on how they perceive him using his speed and what effects they'll use to show it.

Wonder Woman is easily much more known than the Flash.

I'd say:

1. Superman
2. Batman
3. Wonder Woman
4. Flash

Originally posted by Draco69
Marvel is making a chockload of movies every year. At least two Marvel movies are released per year. 90% of them are crappy but hey at least fans get to see their favorite characters in live action.

90%? More like 99% to be precise.

DC shouldn't be making movies about their characters just to compete with Marvel. What they need to is find a good well written story and a good director to pull it off. There are two characters that should get their own movie.

Captain Marvel and Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)

The rest don't need it.

Originally posted by Doc Potato
Hmm... nowadays, a lot of people just think comics are pretty lame. I reckon Blade and The Punsiher were MORE popular in taht people didn't even realise they're comic characters. I mean, the Alien "Quadrilogy" is immensey popular but do half the fans realise its based on comics? Nope.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
A JLA movie would be terrible.

You can't pack that many stories into 2 hours of film. Once all the characters had a movie out, then... maybe. And then a JLA flick could be like a... "communal sequel" to all of them.

But until them, hell no.

I get the same feeling.

Disappointment along the lines of Superman Returns. 😬

They did it in Jl's first episode

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
They did it in Jl's first episode

And you really think a movie, released to theaters, with live actors, would be able to successfully pull that off? 😬

The general audience wouldn't accept it, and while the directors/screen-writers have tried to add all these stories/backgrounds, they've cut down and modified the characers, pissing off fans.