I like how you only tackled a few of the scans I brought up in an attempt to make it seem like you countered effectively…
Fact is, Apocalypse loses… badly.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
😬Lobo's strength varies from human to Superman levels.
thorinn
Did you get this garbage from Wikipedia? Not only is it a leap of speculation and personal interpretation, but it also has no basis. Besides, all throughout that arc Lobo had an incredible amount of super strength. He doesn’t just switch back from human strength level to Superman strength level. Lulz.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
I'm pretty sure that's not canon... since it's from the Rock of Ages...
According to Metron and Hourman 1 Million, Rock of Ages is indeed canon.
Besides, it’s the same Darkseid. 😬
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Poor art.Looks like Darkseid is stretching his arms... ermm
O…. kay? 😐
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Yeah, yeah... we all know how Superman and Darkseid fights turns out now days...
Apokalips Now is the only legit win Superman has over Darkseid.
Sure, you can cite the S/B fight as another example, however there was outside interference and other circumstances. Darkseid got hit with the OB, Superman had a sun amp, etc.
Btw, you also skipped the instance where Darkseid embarrassed Superman in three punches.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Slig is a minion of Darkseid, isn't he? barker
Alright?
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Apocalypse has punked Namor with a punch... while underwater.
Which as Bran said, is not canon. Besides, he’s not fighting Namor here, he’s fighting someone much stronger and more formidable.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
He has restrained the overly strong Heroes Reborn Hulk, who was struggling to break free...
Him choking the Hulk with a metal wire = a victory over Darkseid in a h2h encounter?
This is what it comes down to…
Originally posted by batdude123
The idea of him being able to defeat a stronger, more skilled, and more experienced combatant (Darkseid) without the feats to back it up is laughable.
Fin.
Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Because the stuff is either out of canon or stuff Apoc could do himself.
Either you’re an enormous Apocalypse wanker, or you’re truly out of your mind.
Originally posted by Mindset
And about the Lobo thing, it's not that his strength just switches from low to high for no reason, it matches the person he is fighting. Which is why he can fight Superman and smack him around, but at the same time fight Batman and not explode his head with a punch.
Batman takes class 100 punches all the time. It's in part due to the armor he wears. But regardless, there's no need to get off topic...
Originally posted by batdude123
I like how you only tackled a few of the scans I brought up in an attempt to make it seem like you countered effectively…
Oh Noes!!!11!!1!!One!! You got me.
Originally posted by batdude123
Fact is, Apocalypse loses… badly.
Like I said, I've been brainwashed by HeroChat.... Darkseid just sucks. ka-dur
Originally posted by batdude123
thorinnDid you get this garbage from Wikipedia? Not only is it a leap of speculation and personal interpretation, but it also has no basis. Besides, all throughout that arc Lobo had an incredible amount of super strength. He doesn’t just switch back from human strength level to Superman strength level. Lulz.
What?
I'm desperate here.
Originally posted by batdude123
O…. kay? 😐
Never mind.
Originally posted by batdude123
Btw, you also skipped the instance where Darkseid embarrassed Superman in three punches.
I used the feat for debates once... but then in a thread, you said that Superman wasn't in top shape or something because he had briefly fought... oh what was it, Imperiex probes?
Originally posted by batdude123
Which as Bran said, is not canon.
How isn't canon?
Originally posted by batdude123
Him choking the Hulk with a metal wire = a victory over Darkseid in a h2h encounter?
Darkseid slapping people = 10/10 victory? thorinn
Originally posted by batdude123
Batman takes class 100 punches all the time. It's in part due to the armor he wears. But regardless, there's no need to get off topic...
Batman can't take punches from the a fighter with Superman level strength who is not holding back, I don't care what kind of armor he is wearing.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Oh Noes!!!11!!1!!One!! You got me.
I know. 😇
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Like I said, I've been brainwashed by HeroChat.... Darkseid just sucks. ka-dur
Ah... right.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
What?I'm desperate here.
I can tell. haermm2
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Never mind.
Sexcellent.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
I used the feat for debates once... but then in a thread, you said that Superman wasn't in top shape or something because he had briefly fought... oh what was it, Imperiex probes?
Granted, he might have been a little fatigued after fighting the Probes, however before his encounter with Darkseid, he was able to knock Kalibak the f*ck out with a few punches.
I doubt any of it had a negative effect on Superman's "invulnerability" prior to his encounter with Darkseid.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
How isn't canon?
Apparently 616 Apocalypse didn't do it? srug
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Darkseid slapping people = 10/10 victory? thorinn
That was merely to show how easily Darkseid can dispose of high level characters.
He has good skills and a lot of experience. That coupled with his "microsecond" reaction timing and he takes this 10/10. 313
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
So... Apocalypse was just resurrected during the HoM then. srug
Something like that. And he never shown to be capable or powerful as 616 Apocalypse.
So, HoM Apocalypse shouldn't be used.
I know BB scream is powerful, but it was whisper that should and could never destroy 616 Apocalypse like he did it to HoM Apocalypse.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
"HoM Apocalypse"? You make it sound like it was an alternative reality...
But it was different Apocalypse. Did he shown anything as 616? No.
Post-M day, when majority mutants lost their powers, Apocalypse revived and had a goal to save mutantkind, in his own way.
I know BB scream is powerful, but it was whisper that should and could never destroy 616 Apocalypse like he did it to HoM Apocalypse.
Originally posted by Xplosive
But it was different Apocalypse.
In what way?
Originally posted by Xplosive
Did he shown anything as 616? No.
It was not an alternate reality/timeline for Christ's shake, just the regular world and character memories instantly shifted to reflect a (theoretical) change in human/mutant relationships as if it originated 20 years back or so, but really occurring instantly without change in time.
Originally posted by Xplosive
I know BB scream is powerful, but it was whisper that should and could never destroy 616 Apocalypse like he did it to HoM Apocalypse.
I think you mean BB's voice...