Elektra vs Blade

Started by Alfheim7 pages
Originally posted by Francisco
By this statements I come to realize that you niño araña are the type of person who thinks that ignoring racism would make it to go away. Sorry kid it won't happen.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Oh yeah Francisco people were also complaining how Apocalypse should do better in comics. People were getting pissed off because Namor made Apocalypse look stupid.... 😐

Originally posted by Apolloknight

For instance, awhile back, Affiem didn't agree that Hudlin had Panther one-shotting Karnak, I posted a scan that had Kirby writing panther when he one-shotted karnak.

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Actually I think BP could beat Karnak now. There were scans were Karnak couldnt even hurt Namor, we know that Cap can do that. Anyway I dont know scans can be confusing, sometimes characters fight well sometimes they dont.

Originally posted by Alfheim
There also was a lot of people complaining because Luke Cage was made leader of the New Avengers.

Originally posted by Francisco
There also was a lot of people complaining because Luke Cage was made leader of the New Avengers.

Yeah but there were also people sticking up for Luke cage beating Wrecker.

There were people sticking up for Apoc.

I and another person were delighted that Darwin was a black mutant.

You cant just take the negative and ignore the positive.

Originally posted by Francisco
By this statements I come to realize that you niño araña are the type of person who thinks that ignoring racism would make it to go away. Sorry kid it won't happen.
this proves that you've read none of my post, i really don't care.....i just know the kind of person you are.

*ignore listed*

Apolloknight there are also scans of DD pretty much owning BP. So im like how the hell can BP on shot Karnak and fight the other Inhumans when he cant even put up a good fight against DD.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Apolloknight there are also scans of DD pretty much owning BP. So im like how the hell can BP on shot Karnak and fight the other Inhumans when he cant even put up a good fight against DD.

This is what I'm talking about. BP can own a lot of unknowns but when it all comes down to whitey fave ones he will always lose and if he doesn't the fanboys will scream PIS.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Apolloknight there are also scans of DD pretty much owning BP. So im like how the hell can BP on shot Karnak and fight the other Inhumans when he cant even put up a good fight against DD.

And their are also scan of Panther beating DD, and stalemating him, BP also beat Spiderman, heck, BP even beat Hydroman.

High and low showing, it happenes my friend. I mean, Cap has lost before, wolverine has lost, batman has lost, Hulk has lost, it happens to everyone. IF everyone won all the time, who would ever lose!!??

Honeslty, in the BP vs Karnak fight I think panther takes it 7/10, but thats another debate, I was feeling like a ******* that day and using the one-shotting argument like it was my job.

Originally posted by Francisco
This is what I'm talking about. BP can own a lot of unknowns but when it all comes down to whitey fave ones he will always lose and if he doesn't the fanboys will scream PIS.

Bro the inhumans are well known. I just dont know that much about BP.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
And their are also scan of Panther beating DD, and stalemating him, BP also beat Spiderman, heck, BP even beat Hydroman.

High and low showing, it happenes my friend. I mean, Cap has lost before, wolverine has lost, batman has lost, Hulk has lost, it happens to everyone. IF everyone won all the time, who would ever lose!!??

Honeslty, in the BP vs Karnak fight I think panther takes it 7/10, but thats another debate, I was feeling like a ******* that day and using the one-shotting argument like it was my job.

😆 Ok mate since you put it that way. Really I didnt know all that.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Honestly, I can understand what you are saying, but in the same aspect, Black Panther has always been strong and capable, he has just not been that popular of a character, back when Kirby was writing him, to the avengers, to Priest and now hudlin, Panther has always been a step above. If someone disagrees, don't use the race card, provide scans, as I do.

For instance, awhile back, Affiem didn't agree that Hudlin had Panther one-shotting Karnak, I posted a scan that had Kirby writing panther when he one-shotted karnak.

I didn't pull a race card, I just used comic logic, it can be frustrating at times, and I do feel every now and then some black hero's are not looked upon as they should, but at the same time you cant use the race card, it all goes back to popularity, guys like cap, wolverine spidy, they sell, everybody knows everything about them, so of course in a fight with a popular white hero against an not so popular but capable black hero, its going to favor the white hero, not because of race but because people just don't know much about them, so, with panther, I inform them, I try to get rid of the "uniformed logic" used at times on this forum. And one thing you also have to understand in debating, no matter how much logic you may bring to the table, some people just will not accept it, for those who don't, I wont even waste my time, but As long as I can get the real and sensible debaters on the forum to see my points, I feel as though I won.

My point is, you cant use the race card every-time someone disagrees with you or something doesn't go your way, some people truly just don't know about them, so you have to inform them, with scans and such, I'm not sure if you done this or not, but it works more times then not my friend.

Their is a time and place for race in this world, its true, Racial hate still exist as sad as it may be, but lets try to keep it off the forum, and keep it to comics.

Oh and for the record, I actually enjoyed Priest run on Panther more then Hudlins.

Just like I said to Alfheim. BP is good when he fights unknowns and monster but when it comes down to the big players he is always look at as a second rater. That's the reason Hudlin gets so much hate. He is not playing according to that notion.

By the way I'm not using the race card (who the hell came up with that phrase?) I'm just pointing out facts.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Bro the inhumans are well known. I just dont know that much about BP.

😆 Ok mate since you put it that way. Really I didnt know all that.

Man, Karnak jobs to almost every character he fights and the same goes for Gorgon. All of sudden everyoen is pissed because Karnak did it again. The strange part is that when Blade jobs to Wolverine no one says nothing.

Originally posted by Francisco
Just like I said to Alfheim. BP is good when he fights unknowns and monster but when it comes down to the big players he is always look at as a second rater. That's the reason Hudlin gets so much hate. He is not playing according to that notion.

By the way I'm not using the race card (who the hell came up with that phrase?) I'm just pointing out facts.

Thats what Im saying, more people are reading panther these days because of the Cival war Tie in's and such, Alot of people are like "who the hell is this guy owning Karnak like this??!!"

They dont know him, thats when you have to go back in time and inform them.

Hey Black Panther not some joke, check the history.

Originally posted by Francisco
Just like I said to Alfheim. BP is good when he fights unknowns and monster but when it comes down to the big players he is always look at as a second rater. That's the reason Hudlin gets so much hate. He is not playing according to that notion.

By the way I'm not using the race card (who the hell came up with that phrase?) I'm just pointing out facts.

I dunno Hudlin seems to go overboard. Anyway I gotta go....later.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dunno Hudlin seems to go overboard.

Honestly, I have to agree with this, I feel when Im reading BP Huldin trys to tie race too much into it, in a way, he could be losing alot of readers this way, their are whites who read panther.

Which is why Priest had it the best, He didnt ignore race, but he didnt let it led the comic.

But this thread is way off topic.

The fight with Blade & Wolvie was bad.. So, Blade doesn't have a healingactor anymore.. Righto.

Originally posted by Jyppe
The fight with Blade & Wolvie was bad.. So, Blade doesn't have a healingactor anymore.. Righto.

he has one, but it never been very good

Originally posted by capt it up
he has one, but it never been very good

He has healed gun shot wounds at very high rate, he has healed a big back wound in a panel. He shook off hit from a big ass creature while being weakened. There might be others too..

Originally posted by Jyppe
He has healed gun shot wounds at very high rate, he has healed a big back wound in a panel. He shook off hit from a big ass creature while being weakened. There might be others too..

yes however those a random event's which only happen what twice?. Nothing to secure that he actaully has a powerful healing factor. There are far more event's were a lot less takes him out

Originally posted by Jyppe
He has healed gun shot wounds at very high rate, he has healed a big back wound in a panel. He shook off hit from a big ass creature while being weakened. There might be others too..

Guggenheim depowered Blade and toned down his skills. In few words he made him a wuss!

Originally posted by Francisco
Guggenheim depowered Blade and toned down his skills. In few words he made him a wuss!

not really he did a lot better vs Logan then I thought he should, though lgoan did seem to be toying with him.

Originally posted by Francisco
The strange part is that when Blade jobs to Wolverine no one says nothing.

Why ?

Answer : EVERYONE Jobs to Wolverine.