Originally posted by masterbruceHe always was a joke. He got his damn ribs brokn by Thing, and now your telling him to fight these guys? Of course if we are basing this off of bios, then he wins.
Champion has gotten a bad rap. Writers use him as a joke to make the other characters look good.
Originally posted by masterbruceA name means nothing.
He is called "Champion of the Universe" for a reason, you know.
Originally posted by masterbruceSo know your changing your whole argument?
I can't help it if the writers decided to turn him into a weak buffoon, but he certainly wasn't created to be that.
Originally posted by bigbran
You should add someone to Champs team. I like the guy, but every one of his on panel showings, contridicts your bios.
well, it's not my bios. it's marvel's bios, so I'm assuming it's more accurate than comics, which as you know, are often inconsistent and up to the whims of the writers.
.....yet comics are how all these things are represented. Comics are the foundation of those very bios so in a circle of debate, the comic would hold firm as the ultimate representation of a persons characeter rather than a bio. You can think about it this way
In a bio of John Doe he could be a great man, a great father, and a superb human being
But then in reality as you witness his life he is an abusive husband, a alcoholic, a arrogant smart ass, and a former criminal (but never got caught)
Now what are you gonna believe? A bio, or the "true" representation of who they are?
Originally posted by masterbruceYour going to beat me, by using "Champion of the Universe" in a debate? 😆
"a name means nothing"WRONG
names mean A LOT in comics:
Superman, Doomsday, Hulk, Onslaught, Gladiator, Juggernaut, etc...all these names invoke a sense of power which these characters bring with them
you don't see jubilee being named something powerful
Originally posted by masterbruceI meant the bios you were using.
well, it's not my bios. it's marvel's bios, so I'm assuming it's more accurate than comics, which as you know, are often inconsistent and up to the whims of the writers.
That's like us looking in the history books, compared to the people that had to watch everything.
Take the French Revolution. Do you think the history books tell us everything that went on, or that can tell us?
The comics are there, for you to read observe, and look at. A bio, is something that I could go and edit right now, so I could fit my needs.
I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just trying to show you that bios don't always tell the truth. There always a good thing, but you should check everything, or ask if it's true.
Originally posted by bigbran
Your going to beat me, by using "Champion of the Universe" in a debate? 😆
It means nothing here.
Here is just a taste of how this contridicts your bios.
One finger.
Champ could hold his own or beat any of the four heroes, but all together they win.
Originally posted by long pigYes, but I might as well read it again. But, he had both his hands up, the blast came out of his finger, hmm...
He pressed a button on his chair or his belt.Did you read the comic?
What issue was that again? I just don't want to search through the whole series.
*edit* Just read it, it took two guesses and I found it. I don't see where he pressed the button.
Same issue. I want to post them big, so it's easier for everyone.
Drax with PG one shots Champion.
and......bed.
Originally posted by bigbran
Yes, but I might as well read it again. But, he had both his hands up, the blast came out of his finger, hmm...What issue was that again? I just don't want to search through the whole series.
*edit* Just read it, it took two guesses and I found it. I don't see where he pressed the button.
Same issue. I want to post them big, so it's easier for everyone.
Drax with PG one shots Champion.and......bed.
A small house cat would beat Superman if the cat had the power gem.
Originally posted by masterbruce
how in the hell could she-hulk beat the champion!!!!???she's weaker than him, less experienced, and much worse of a fighter
he prob let her cuz she's a girl
you know even though she hulk trained, power up its stil bull no wat she could have beaten Champion, lets say she may have been stronger than she hulk theres no way she could have outboxed him in what 2 minutes just by having 3 months training and Champion has what billions of years training and experince, i don't care wat anyone says the writer had a hard on for She hulk.
Originally posted by long pigYes, that's why Drax got his ass kicked by WM Thor. Or why Moondragon, wasn't able to do some things. Like beat SS, or Thanos for instance.
The power gem gives it's owner infinite strenth/speed/durability and stamina.A small house cat would beat Superman if the cat had the power gem.
Originally posted by long pigBut I just showed him teleporting Champion with one finger. He didn't even acknowledge him, as a threat.
But, yeah, Thanos can't teleport without aid from tech.