Champion vs Superman, GL (Kyle), Thor, and Surfer

Started by masterbruce4 pages

When I created this scenario, I was originally going to add wonderwoman and gladiator to the team, now Im glad i didnt 🙂

Originally posted by masterbruce
Champion has gotten a bad rap. Writers use him as a joke to make the other characters look good.
He always was a joke. He got his damn ribs brokn by Thing, and now your telling him to fight these guys? Of course if we are basing this off of bios, then he wins.

Originally posted by masterbruce
He is called "Champion of the Universe" for a reason, you know.
A name means nothing.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I can't help it if the writers decided to turn him into a weak buffoon, but he certainly wasn't created to be that.
So know your changing your whole argument?

Originally posted by masterbruce
When I created this scenario, I was originally going to add wonderwoman and gladiator to the team, now Im glad i didnt 🙂
You should add someone to Champs team. I like the guy, but every one of his on panel showings, contridicts your bios.

"a name means nothing"

WRONG

names mean A LOT in comics:

Superman, Doomsday, Hulk, Onslaught, Gladiator, Juggernaut, etc...all these names invoke a sense of power which these characters bring with them

you don't see jubilee being named something powerful

Ahh Jubilee is quite powerfull... potentially they say..lol

Originally posted by bigbran
You should add someone to Champs team. I like the guy, but every one of his on panel showings, contridicts your bios.

well, it's not my bios. it's marvel's bios, so I'm assuming it's more accurate than comics, which as you know, are often inconsistent and up to the whims of the writers.

.....yet comics are how all these things are represented. Comics are the foundation of those very bios so in a circle of debate, the comic would hold firm as the ultimate representation of a persons characeter rather than a bio. You can think about it this way

In a bio of John Doe he could be a great man, a great father, and a superb human being

But then in reality as you witness his life he is an abusive husband, a alcoholic, a arrogant smart ass, and a former criminal (but never got caught)

Now what are you gonna believe? A bio, or the "true" representation of who they are?

Originally posted by masterbruce
"a name means nothing"

WRONG

names mean A LOT in comics:

Superman, Doomsday, Hulk, Onslaught, Gladiator, Juggernaut, etc...all these names invoke a sense of power which these characters bring with them

you don't see jubilee being named something powerful

Your going to beat me, by using "Champion of the Universe" in a debate? 😆
It means nothing here.
Here is just a taste of how this contridicts your bios.
One finger.

Originally posted by masterbruce
well, it's not my bios. it's marvel's bios, so I'm assuming it's more accurate than comics, which as you know, are often inconsistent and up to the whims of the writers.
I meant the bios you were using.
Plus, on bios, it says a lot of things, doesn't make it true.

That's like us looking in the history books, compared to the people that had to watch everything.
Take the French Revolution. Do you think the history books tell us everything that went on, or that can tell us?
The comics are there, for you to read observe, and look at. A bio, is something that I could go and edit right now, so I could fit my needs.

I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just trying to show you that bios don't always tell the truth. There always a good thing, but you should check everything, or ask if it's true.

Originally posted by bigbran
Your going to beat me, by using "Champion of the Universe" in a debate? 😆
It means nothing here.
Here is just a taste of how this contridicts your bios.
One finger.

Thanos used technology to teleport Champ, nothing more.

Champ could hold his own or beat any of the four heroes, but all together they win.

Originally posted by long pig
Thanos used technology to teleport Champ, nothing more.

Champ could hold his own or beat any of the four heroes, but all together they win.

The technology coming out of his finger is just radiating. 🙄

He pressed a button on his chair or his belt.

Did you read the comic?

Originally posted by long pig
He pressed a button on his chair or his belt.

Did you read the comic?

Yes, but I might as well read it again. But, he had both his hands up, the blast came out of his finger, hmm...

What issue was that again? I just don't want to search through the whole series.

*edit* Just read it, it took two guesses and I found it. I don't see where he pressed the button.

Same issue. I want to post them big, so it's easier for everyone.
Drax with PG one shots Champion.

and......bed.

Thanos pressing a button and teleporting Champion was in Thano Quest #1. The scan bigbran showed is their fight in Silver Surfer #98, in that fight Thanos' one shot fingerblast was done all on his own power.

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Originally posted by bigbran
Yes, but I might as well read it again. But, he had both his hands up, the blast came out of his finger, hmm...

What issue was that again? I just don't want to search through the whole series.

*edit* Just read it, it took two guesses and I found it. I don't see where he pressed the button.

Same issue. I want to post them big, so it's easier for everyone.
Drax with PG one shots Champion.

and......bed.


The power gem gives it's owner infinite strenth/speed/durability and stamina.

A small house cat would beat Superman if the cat had the power gem.

But, yeah, Thanos can't teleport without aid from tech.

Thats debateable since he is an Eternal, all of whom have the ability to teleport.

Originally posted by masterbruce
how in the hell could she-hulk beat the champion!!!!???

she's weaker than him, less experienced, and much worse of a fighter

he prob let her cuz she's a girl

you know even though she hulk trained, power up its stil bull no wat she could have beaten Champion, lets say she may have been stronger than she hulk theres no way she could have outboxed him in what 2 minutes just by having 3 months training and Champion has what billions of years training and experince, i don't care wat anyone says the writer had a hard on for She hulk.

Originally posted by long pig
The power gem gives it's owner infinite strenth/speed/durability and stamina.

A small house cat would beat Superman if the cat had the power gem.

Yes, that's why Drax got his ass kicked by WM Thor. Or why Moondragon, wasn't able to do some things. Like beat SS, or Thanos for instance.
Originally posted by long pig
But, yeah, Thanos can't teleport without aid from tech.
But I just showed him teleporting Champion with one finger. He didn't even acknowledge him, as a threat.

Champion gets wtfpwned. Period.