By the way guys, I don't know what you consider "dead" but since I logged on a few hours ago, about 20 threads in the games vs. forum have had new posts.
Just because a forum isn't flooded with a page of new threads a day doesn't mean it's dead. I appreciate the intelligent discussion about this matter, but the fact remains that the large majority of these characters are not going to be allowed in this forum.
And it's not just about Mods having more work. With the number of threads we get anyway, it would become overly messy and cluttered for every member. I have to think about forum upkeep, not just myself.
...we don't really need a list because the list isn't that long. Godzilla, Snake, Master Chief, Predator. That's about all I can think of. And there can't be more than 2-3 others besides those, and these are all fairly well-known.
So once again, it's not the popular answer, so I apologize for that, but expanding the forum to include characters that are acceptable and encouraged in another forum is pretty much out of the question.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
...we don't really need a list because the list isn't that long. Godzilla, Snake, Master Chief, Predator. That's about all I can think of. And there can't be more than 2-3 others besides those, and these are all fairly well-known.
Also a few anime characters like Guyver and Vash (it's a very short list there too.
On the main subject, Digi pretty much summed it up for me. But to add on, it's a decent idea, IN THEORY. But, I've modded this forum long enough to know that it wouldn't work, regardless of what we try. Trust us, it's hard enough keeping this forum tolerable as it is, imagine if we added even more to it (another reason why I think a general VS forum is a bad idea too). I'd like to see it work out, but I already know that it wouldn't. Sorry to disappoint.
Originally posted by grey fox✅
NopeSeveral reasons
1. You already stated the messiness , and it wouldn't ease up. Dumbasses would make Mario threads and such and such , as well as the difficulty in trying to enforce the rules you described
2. Unlike comics games cheat. Take the Dante thread , a few DMC obsessed numbskulls continuously made 'Dante-Threads' stating that he was' Skyfather' simply because he defeated Mundus who shows SOME sky-fatherish power. Or to put it more loosely , a VG characters power is never defined
it's a good idea and has some potential but like stated before the level of contorl would be quite difficult..... if i may i have a suggestion why not try out a small scaled experimental trial run? create a seperate private forum and invite only a select few amout of users in the ones we know to be fairly reasonalbe good debaters and unbias with there character stance you let this little project run for about a month or 2 to work out the kinks and if it proves to work the next step is intergration this would naturally be a long and slow process allowing small amounts of new posters on at a time going at a slow but steady pace untill atlast the whole forum gets updated. a good starting number for this experiment would be about 20 posters, seeing how this is extra's idea it would also be a good idea to put him in charge of this forum as a sort of acting monitor.... this is just an idea though
Originally posted by lando005
it's a good idea and has some potential but like stated before the level of contorl would be quite difficult..... if i may i have a suggestion why not try out a small scaled experimental trial run? create a seperate private forum and invite only a select few amout of users in the ones we know to be fairly reasonalbe good debaters and unbias with there character stance you let this little project run for about a month or 2 to work out the kinks and if it proves to work the next step is intergration this would naturally be a long and slow process allowing small amounts of new posters on at a time going at a slow but steady pace untill atlast the whole forum gets updated. a good starting number for this experiment would be about 20 posters, seeing how this is extra's idea it would also be a good idea to put him in charge of this forum as a sort of acting monitor.... this is just an idea though
Forums don't just pop up. It requires a ton of interest, a ton of mod approval, then a bunch of work by Raz to set it up.
In other words, nothing experimental would be possible, simply because it's too much work for something that will likely be temporary.
And like I said, the games forum isn't nearly as dead as you people think. And they normally welcome cross-genre battles much more than we do here because they get less traffic.
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So please just read my other posts in this thread. I can sympathize with the desire for this, but there's really very little that you can't do right now if you use the proper forums on KMC.
Originally posted by DigiMark007So would this mean that we can't have a comic vs games forum?
Forums don't just pop up. It requires a ton of interest, a ton of mod approval, then a bunch of work by Raz to set it up.In other words, nothing experimental would be possible, simply because it's too much work for something that will likely be temporary.
And like I said, the games forum isn't nearly as dead as you people think. And they normally welcome cross-genre battles much more than we do here because they get less traffic.
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So please just read my other posts in this thread. I can sympathize with the desire for this, but there's really very little that you can't do right now if you use the proper forums on KMC.
I understand that it would be hard, but the payoff would be worth it, you know what I mean? Look at how many Games vs Comic charatcers there are now, people just can't wait to debate Sephiroth vs Silver Surfer.
Plus, Raz could appoint some new mods in that forum, if some mods don't want to do it.
Originally posted by bigbran
So would this mean that we can't have a comic vs games forum?
We have a damn Terminator forum, a Lost forum, etc.
I'm not saying to do it, but it would get traffic. People from the games forum, and people from the Comic forums would come together.I understand that it wouldn't be hard, but the payoff would be worth it, you know what I mean? Look at how many Games vs Comic charatcers there are now, people just can't wait to debate Sephiroth vs Silver Surfer.
Plus, Raz could appoint some new mods in that forum, if some mods don't want to do it.
i agree with this post completely. i know thers room for it somewehre and there are some incredible debaters in these fourms, thiers not much more i personalyl can say, but withinn certian guidelines, i think this can be a really good non-messy idea
Like the mods said, it would sound nice, but it would be hellish on large forums... I've dealt with fanboys for ages to know it would be a migrane, because most of the matches would be inconclusive. That and there are so many medias for some characters, like SF, that everyone has their on distinct perception of them, which makes it a pain to debate.
Originally posted by bigbran
So would this mean that we can't have a comic vs games forum?
We have a damn Terminator forum, a Lost forum, etc.
I'm not saying to do it, but it would get traffic. People from the games forum, and people from the Comic forums would come together.I understand that it would be hard, but the payoff would be worth it, you know what I mean? Look at how many Games vs Comic charatcers there are now, people just can't wait to debate Sephiroth vs Silver Surfer.
Plus, Raz could appoint some new mods in that forum, if some mods don't want to do it.
Couple things:
Everyone outside the vs. forums hates the vs. forums. No joke. Getting a new vs. forum on KMC would be like convincing Mungi that Alpha Flight sucks. A new one definitely won't be happening...we've already tried with anime vs. and a couple others. This would be no different.
Second, C-Master put it well. Cross genre battles suck for everyone involved. 90% of the time it's inconclusive, and often you just get fanboys from both sides yelling at each other. Don't believe me? Open a comic vs. SW in the SW forums, then open the same one here. Then watch the fur fly. (...don't actually do this though). But it's a nightmare for everyone.
Third, do we really need to know if Surfer would beat Sephiroth? I mean, really? Comic battles at least make a bit more sense because they exist (largely) in the same context as one another.
And to reiterate: We already have a "non-messy" solution. Use the game forum when possible, and the few that have a lot of interest and a decent number of comics, we allow in this forum. It's really not a bad system, and we're really only talking about a very small percentage of threads that don't get allowed.
And this forum is busy enough...on busy days we rival the OTF. I won't have it expand, and a new forum isn't going to happen (not because of me personally, but because it just won't happen from an administrative perspective). Use the games forum, or this forum when you can for stuff like this, or don't. Your choice, really.
I know Digi you have said your words on the matter but I have an idea and I just want to say it.
Anyways stick a forum at the top stating Off-Topic debates
or something like that
Where people have to go in and request whether or not they can make a thread invloving all non comic characters.
You go through and PM to people the ones you approve that way you can limit the number of threads mad while not being overloaded with to many things to do.
Originally posted by newjak86
I know Digi you have said your words on the matter but I have an idea and I just want to say it.Anyways stick a forum at the top stating Off-Topic debates
or something like that
Where people have to go in and request whether or not they can make a thread invloving all non comic characters.You go through and PM to people the ones you approve that way you can limit the number of threads mad while not being overloaded with to many things to do.
This actually sounds doable. An all-emcompassing thread for "off-topic" battles, right? I'd rather not be approving or turning down numerous threads (that would get tiring in a hurry) but if we just sort of lumped them together into a thread or two.
I still say 90% of the fights they're complaining about would be allowed (and would also be intelligently discussed) in the games forum. But I'll keep this idea in mind.
Originally posted by DigiMark007Perhaps but it would have to be one debate going on at one time we couldn't have 40 going on.
This actually sounds doable. An all-emcompassing thread for "off-topic" battles, right? I'd rather not be approving or turning down numerous threads (that would get tiring in a hurry) but if we just sort of lumped them together into a thread or two.I still say 90% of the fights they're complaining about would be allowed (and would also be intelligently discussed) in the games forum. But I'll keep this idea in mind.
And the approving thing would be eas jst scroll down the list and whatever you think could be made into a thread just PM the person and tell them its ok and anybody who doesn't get a PM in return was turned down.