Luke Cage and Black Panther vs. Wolverine and Sabretooth

Started by Dreampanther3 pages

Well, first, I would argue that since Black Panther is so much more intelligent than the others, he would have no problem identifying everybody’s strengths and weaknesses. Secondly, I don’t see it becoming an endurance match between Cage and Sabretooth. I mean, seriously, what is Sabretooth gonna do to Cage? He can’t penetrate his skin, and Cage is MUCH stronger than Sabretooth, so Cage is gonna take out Sabretooth HARD and FAST.

In fact, can you see any way that Sabretooth would survive once Cage gets his hands on him? Sure, he’s got the healing thing, but it’s gonna take him a while to heal from having his skull crushed like an empty egg…

Meanwhile, BP, who is just as agile, just as fast, and just as strong as Wolverine, thanks to his herbs, is keeping Wolverine busy. And while Wolverine may have the adamantium skeleton, that doesn’t help against slashing and stabbing attacks, which is what BP specialises in. And then, as soon as Cage has crushed Sabretooth, it’s both of them against Wolverine – and all Cage has to do is distract Wolverine for long enough to let BP stab Wolverine through the heart.

That is how I see the match going, anyway, would be interested in any counter-arguments!

We all know Wolverine and Sabretooth are no walk-overs, but my verdict, so far is Cage and BP take this, 7 or 8 out of 10.

Cage may be stronger than Sabretooth, but Sabretooth seems to be more agile, faster, and maybe better fighter? I don't see Cage crushing Sabretooth's skull. Panther may be more intelligent, but Wolverine and Sabretooth are very street smart, which is what matters in a fight, plus there's no preptime for Panther to take advantage of his intelligence. This is really awfully close, hopefully someone can make a decisive argument in favor of one team or the other...

Luke Cage:
Abilities: Superhuman strength, stamina, and Titanium hard skin

According to Wiki:

"Luke Cage possesses superhuman strength, endurance, and resistance to injury as a result of his participation in dangerous (and highly controversial) experiments while in prison, and his power has seemingly increased by an order of magnitude since his original transformation.
This same experiment has fortified the various tissues of Cage's body, granting him a high degree of resistance to injury. Cage's skin is as hard as titanium and can resist high caliber bullets, puncture wounds, corrosives, and extreme temperatures and pressures without sustaining damage. Even though Cage is practically invulnerable to conventional weaponry, it is possible to injure him with adamantium weapons. The same experiment that granted him his great strength and durability, has also slightly increased his ability to heal. Luke Cage's injuries heal at about one-third of the time than a normal human's. As a side-effect of the fortified tissue of his body, the density of that tissue is greater than an ordinary human. Luke Cage is an exceptional street fighter and was a gifted athlete before receiving superhuman abilities.

In their first meeting, Cage and Spider-Man appeared to be roughly equal in physical strength (Amazing Spider-Man #123, August 1973). However, subsequent experimentation by Noah Burstein appears to have increased Cage's strength considerably."

Now, again, my question is: What in the name of little green apples can Sabretooth do to Cage? Cage is gonna stand there, laughing his head off, and then grab Sabretooth, and start SQUEEZING. There is not a thing, NOTHING, Sabretooth can do to Cage. All Sabretooth can do is heal, so Cage can squeeze him like a tube of toothpaste, again and again and again.

And while there may be no preptime for BP, does he really need it? He has studied all the superheroes/villains before, he has all their strengths and weaknesses on file, and it’s not like Sabretooth and Wolverine are exactly unknown quantities.

Look, anything can happen in a fight (and usually does), and Wolverine only has to get lucky once, against Cage or BP, (because I think Cage’s skin and BP’s armour only give marginal protection against adamantium) – but I really think Sabretooth is overmatched against either BP (in armour, especially) and against Cage, he will simply be treated like a child throwing a temper-tantrum and he will get the spanking he deserves.

I stay with my earlier call: 7/10 for BP and Cage.

you pathetic loser sabretooth can cut look cage, class 15 strength + adamantium claws = cage is gutted out

A ha - I never read Sabretooth much, I didn't know he had an adamantium skeleton and claws - when did this happen?

he has the adamantium in him since weapon x returned it into him in wolverine #162

So am I correct then, in stating that previously, when Sabretooth and Constrictor got beaten by Cage and Iron Fist, that was before Sabretooth had the adamantium claws and skeleton?

sabretooth was beaten down by luke cage not just before he had adamantium skeleton but before marvel even desided to make him a mutant, he was beaten by luke cage when he was just a seriel killer with a glove AKA "the slasher"

And what about the fight between Black Panther and Sabretooth? Was that before Sabretooth had his adamantium skeleton and adamantium claws as well?

black panther vs sabretooth was a house of m story line, its not canon its a whole different universe and the fact that bp was able to decapitate sabretooth means he didnt have his adamantium , but its a different universe and a non canon just like the what if universe

in the 616 universe the recent sabretooth took down wolverine in every fight since his new form and took down super human droids in weapon x storyline, he also took down omega red in his previous form without the new enhancements , if he could cut omega reds armor without adamantium then with adamantium and class 15 strength he is sure as hell going to cut luke

Wow, Tooth isnt threatining to kill anyone or have them burn in hell 😆

Thats new

Sabretooth and Wolverine ftw.

I'm actually surprised at how well wolvertooth is debating on this page. 😂

no shit.

Correct spelling and issue numbers on his last post...hmmm...I'm not so sure wolvertooth isn't a senior member trying to piss off some people on this forum.

Question for anyone who chooses to answer this, would anyone consider bios written on marvel.com valid?

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Question for anyone who chooses to answer this, would anyone consider bios written on marvel.com valid?

Nay.

EDIT - but then again, I don't put much stock into ANY bio.

However, there is a slight bit more validity in the written bios, than the Marvel.com ones.

And honestly? I say Wikipedia has even more accurate bios than Marvel. Wikipedia is constantly updated, looked after, and monitored by TONS of comic geeks. Marvel, less so.

Originally posted by Soljer
Nay.

EDIT - but then again, I don't put much stock into ANY bio.

However, there is a slight bit more validity in the written bios, than the Marvel.com ones.

And honestly? I say Wikipedia has even more accurate bios than Marvel. Wikipedia is constantly updated, looked after, and monitored by TONS of comic geeks. Marvel, less so.

Isn't Marvel.com an official site however, and one of the few sites that actually hold some sort of weight around here?

Im just the opposite when It comes to wiki, some of the stuff I've seen on that site is just outrageous.

Basically, I still believe Hudlin gave panther an upgrade to the Superhuman levels, it would completely explain what some label as "crap" when it comes to sabretooth and karnak.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
you pathetic loser sabretooth can cut look cage, class 15 strength + adamantium claws = cage is gutted out

Class 15??!?! 😱 😆

So now Wolverine is close to Spidey's strength leauge eh? 😛

Originally posted by Grimm22
Class 15??!?! 😱 😆

So now Wolverine is close to Spidey's strength leauge eh? 😛

He was talking about Sabes..

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With BP's arctic-vibranium daggers they'll take it 8/10, without them Wolverine and Sabes take it 8/10.