Sasquatch vs. Abomination.

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Originally posted by King_Mungi

Fans make the marvel bios on the site, hell I even did 3 entries myself.

Yea but they still must be approved before it becomes permanent. Now if Wiki said Collective Man beat Sasquatch you would have a point.
Originally posted by King_Mungi

Begging? No HE DIDN'T! It was Sasquatch blow, he told him to hold up and then after Jugz hit him he came charging right after Jugz.....here I have a question. Who looked worse at the end of the fight?...that's right Jugz by far. Frig do some research.

Your still on this? I told you how it went down 3 weeks or so ago. Juggernaut was obviously more than Sasquatch could handle. He had to have Earthmover give him time to heal up.

And Sasquatch did not look any better than Juggy after the fight.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea Sasquatch got up but Colossus took him down again cause on the page after that Sasquatch is on his knees while Colossus is beatin him. That's what we see on panel. I wasn't gonna bring this up in your respect thread cause I didn't wanna rain on your parade but you left out the very last scan from the fight. If your gonna post a fight please post the whole thing. And it shows Sasquatch on his knees with Colossus pounding on him.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/colossus2002.jpg

Does not look like Sasquatch won that fight to me. 😉 And above all of this it was a very young and inexperienced Colossus.

He took him down again? have proof of that? Dude as stated the fight stopped when the storm went out of control thanks to Shaman. We have no idea what happened, for all we know he was knocked down by the storm. Even if it was Colossus, you seriously believe that means he won the fight? please.

Sasquatch was toying with Colossus, if he took him serious the fight would have been different. Once again if you seriously believe a judo toss can beat a class 100 character, dude give it up. Especally a character that has a healing factor, great durability, oh hell I think it's pretty obvious by majority a judo toss is not going to knock someone out like Sasquatch

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Yea but they still must be approved before it becomes permanent. Now if Wiki said Collective Man beat Sasquatch you would have a point.
Your still on this? I told you how it went down 3 weeks or so ago. Juggernaut was obviously more than Sasquatch could handle. He had to have Earthmover give him time to heal up.

And Sasquatch did not look any better than Juggy after the fight.

No they don't, once you get enough points you can edit whatever you want. You only need to get approved when it's your first entries or you don't have many points. Once you have enough you can literally do whaterver you want. The scans contradict what was shown in the actual comics.

Yes I told you and you were wrong, I even showed the scans of the fight how did he defeat Sasquatch? You all have a warped perspection of how characters beat someone. Dude, no he wasn't. If he can go toe to toe with Savage Hulk for 30 minutles you seriously think he couldn't with Juggernaut?...please. Especially if enraged he can increase his strength to Elder God level.

didn't look worse?....liar
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p36.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p38.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He took him down again? have proof of that? Dude as stated the fight stopped when the storm went out of control thanks to Shaman. We have no idea what happened, for all we know he was knocked down by the storm. Even if it was Colossus, you seriously believe that means he won the fight? please.

Sasquatch was toying with Colossus, if he took him serious the fight would have been different. Once again if you seriously believe a judo toss can beat a class 100 character, dude give it up. Especally a character that has a healing factor, great durability, oh hell I think it's pretty obvious by majority a judo toss is not going to knock someone out like Sasquatch

No they don't, once you get enough points you can edit whatever you want. You only need to get approved when it's your first entries or you don't have many points. Once you have enough you can literally do whaterver you want. The scans contradict what was shown in the actual comics.

Yes I told you and you were wrong, I even showed the scans of the fight how did he defeat Sasquatch? You all have a warped perspection of how characters beat someone. Dude, no he wasn't. If he can go toe to toe with Savage Hulk for 30 minutles you seriously think he couldn't with Juggernaut?...please. Especially if enraged he can increase his strength to Elder God level.

didn't look worse?....liar
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p36.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p38.jpg

Are you aware that Sasquatch has a healing factor? And that his face is covered in fur? Which would cover up his bruises. You are the only person who sees it that way. Juggernaut was too much for him.

And on a side note it looks to me that Colossus started to beat the crap out of Sasquatch.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Are you aware that Sasquatch has a healing factor? And that his face is covered in fur? Which would cover up his bruises. You are the only person who sees it that way. Juggernaut was too much for him.

And on a side note it looks to me that Colossus started to beat the crap out of Sasquatch.

Thanks it's not like I mentioned if 5 times in this thread or anything. Also so what? thanks to his healing factor it helps with attacks hence my point a judo toss is not going to ko the likes of Sasquatch. Also doesn't change the fact Sasquatch still looked better. Actually no, the majority in the thread agreed Sasquatch wasn't begging and looked better. There was no winner, so how the hell some people think he lost is beyond me. You all have a warped sense of what you think is a win.

You would be wrong, he judo tossed him. If he can take blows from the Hulk you think a judo toss will do much damage? As I said earlier later he was judo tossed by another character and states, "nice judo toss, but if you think I've fallen and can't get up, your wrong".

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Also so what? thanks to his healing factor it helps with attacks hence my point a judo toss is not going to ko the likes of Sasquatch.

Also doesn't change the fact Sasquatch still looked better. Actually no, the majority in the thread agreed Sasquatch wasn't begging and looked better. There was no winner, so how the hell some people think he lost is beyond me. You all have a warped sense of what you think is a win.

Don't matter what you call it wether it's begging or asking. It was obvious Sasquatch could not keep up with Juggy by himself. That's why he needed assistance.
Originally posted by King_Mungi

You would be wrong, he judo tossed him. If he can take blows from the Hulk you think a judo toss will do much damage? As I said earlier later he was judo tossed by another character and states, "nice judo toss, but if you think I've fallen and can't get up, your wrong".
The art of Judo is to use your opponents strength against them. And I don't really care about the Sasquatch/Colossus fight but from what I see it's clear who was winning the fight at the end and it wasn't Sasquatch. The time for "toying" around was over. I really don't think Sasquatch was "toying" with Colossus anyways. Why would he say "lets see if you take as good as you give"? that meaning that he must have been feeling Colossus' punches.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Don't matter what you call it wether it's begging or asking. It was obvious Sasquatch could not keep up with Juggy by himself. That's why he needed assistance.
The art of Judo is to use your opponents strength against them. And I don't really care about the Sasquatch/Colossus fight but from what I see it's clear who was winning the fight at the end and it wasn't Sasquatch. The time for "toying" around was over. I really don't think Sasquatch was "toying" with Colossus anyways. Why would he say "lets see if you take as good as you give"? that meaning that he must have been feeling Colossus' punches.

Bull, and you are the only one who thinks that. Sasquatch rountinley went againsy skyfather beings himself yet he can't take on Jugz? please. No, he got hit away while Earthmover steped in. Which he didn't do much and Sasquatch came running back and they went shot for shot. If you actually think Jugz won you need help. Have you seen Sasquatch others fights, if so you would know for a fact he can keep up with anyone, etc. Wendigo, Hercules, Hulk, Thing, etc.

and...your telling me a class 100 character can be taken down by a judo toss? Wow. Did you see what Sasquatch was even doing to Colossus before the toss? he was putting his hand on his forehead likea bully while a child flays his arms at him. So what? guy has a healing factor and has taken far far far worse than a judo toss, you actually think he couldn't rebound from a friggin throw? You don't think so, then read the scans. He didn't even budge from the punch and Sasquatch has taken stronger blows and felt less than his punches. You have been proven wrong once again.

Originally posted by King_Mungi

and Thing did better than him? bah! When Thing was donning the exo-suit Sasquatch literally destroyed him. Thing didn't even touch him literally.

True 😐

However,

Regular Thing >>>>>>>> Exo-Suit Thing 😉

and

Sasquatch > Regular Thing

Sasquatch ftw

Originally posted by snoopdogg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/colossus2002.jpg

Does not look like Sasquatch won that fight to me. 😉 And above all of this it was a very young and inexperienced Colossus.

Sasquatch was tieing his shoe 😄

Originally posted by Grimm22
True 😐

However,

Regular Thing >>>>>>>> Exo-Suit Thing 😉

and

Sasquatch > Regular Thing

Sasquatch ftw

Oh yeah sorry should have made that clear, I'm just getting annoyed with some of the comments here.

Just to add my 2 cents here.

In the Colossus vs Sassy fight, id say it was a stalemate more or less. If i HAD to give someone the edge, it would be Sassy sliiightly.

In the fight with the Collective Man, It was clear Sassy had him beat and was just toying with him in the end. After CM was pinned, Sassy could have done as he pleased with him. He allowed CM to have the time to kick him off. Because of that alone, i wouldnt give CM the win for that. If anything, it would be a stalemate as well.

Now with the Juggy/Sassy fight, Juggs Clearly has Sassys number with the first hit. Sassy went into the fight cocky and overconfident. Why do i say that? Because when Guardian asked him if he thinks he can take out Juggy, Sassy said "Im offended that you even ask that question, Guardian." It appears Sassy was surprised as hell with Juggs power/strength and that first hit caught him offguard kinda hence the "Wait, man. Hold up a second." Once Sassy knew what he was in for and decided to not hold back of sorts, the fight was clearly even and ended in a stalemate.

With this fight here, Im gonna have to call it a stalemate as well. I know its said that recently Abom got his face smashed in, but it was off panel and we dont know how the fight went down completely.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Just to add my 2 cents here.

In the Colossus vs Sassy fight, id say it was a stalemate more or less. If i HAD to give someone the edge, it would be Sassy sliiightly.

In the fight with the Collective Man, It was clear Sassy had him beat and was just toying with him in the end. After CM was pinned, Sassy could have done as he pleased with him. He allowed CM to have the time to kick him off. Because of that alone, i wouldnt give CM the win for that. If anything, it would be a stalemate as well.

Now with the Juggy/Sassy fight, Juggs Clearly has Sassys number with the first hit. Sassy went into the fight cocky and overconfident. Why do i say that? Because when Guardian asked him if he thinks he can take out Juggy, Sassy said "Im offended that you even ask that question, Guardian." It appears Sassy was surprised as hell with Juggs power/strength and that first hit caught him offguard kinda hence the "Wait, man. Hold up a second." Once Sassy knew what he was in for and decided to not hold back of sorts, the fight was clearly even and ended in a stalemate.

With this fight here, Im gonna have to call it a stalemate as well. I know its said that recently Abom got his face smashed in, but it was off panel and we dont know how the fight went down completely.

Stalemate is fine with me, as no one was ko'ed

Bingo

Once again bingo 🙂 Also it was Sasquatch blow that caused the earthquake which is odd as why would it hurt both of them. I just assume it was a double blow then, but their wasn't an extra sound text.

If Tanaraq is capped and can't be allowed, then yeah I agree.

Good post.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Stalemate is fine with me, as no one was ko'ed

Bingo

Once again bingo 🙂 Also it was Sasquatch blow that caused the earthquake which is odd as why would it hurt both of them. I just assume it was a double blow then, but their wasn't an extra sound text.

If Tanaraq is capped and can't be allowed, then yeah I agree.

Good post.

Thanks. At first i thought it was just Sassy that did the initial hit, but i tought why would Sassy go down if he was the only one that connected with the hit? Plus he did have a eye jammy and was bleeding in the mouth. That too leads me to believe Juggy connected with the first hit as well.

A feat alone was him knocking Juggys helmet off with one hit.

If Earthmover had not intervened Sasquatch was in trouble. Who was in their feet first? Who was on their feet asking saying "Good god wait man, hold up a second"? How the hell can you guys not see that? He was gone for 5 pages! All while Juggernaut was fighting Earthmover. Vindicator I believe even told him to intervene. No matter how you look at it Sasquatch had help in that fight.

Sasquatch never actually fought Hercules either and Wendigo impaled his @ss. Sasquatch even said Hulk kicked his @ss too. And well in the Thing fight Thing did look start picking up the pace at the end of the fight. I even remember Sasquatch hitting Thing with all he had and still could not put him down.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
If Earthmover had not intervened Sasquatch was in trouble. Who was in their feet first? Who was on their feet asking saying "Good god wait man, hold up a second"? How the hell can you guys not see that? He was gone for 5 pages! All while Juggernaut was fighting Earthmover. Vindicator I believe even told him to intervene. No matter how you look at it Sasquatch had help in that fight.

Sasquatch never actually fought Hercules either and Wendigo impaled his @ss. Sasquatch even said Hulk kicked his @ss too. And well in the Thing fight Thing did look start picking up the pace at the end of the fight. I even remember Sasquatch hitting Thing with all he had and still could not put him down.

How so? from one punch, please. Sasquatch has taken far far worse than that and easily came back. Wow, so what? in the end Juggernaut even clocking Sasquatch when he put his guard down had a more mangled face than Sasquatch. 5 pages could be 2 minutes in real time champ. So what? other members of Alpha Flight were taken out from behind, plus the writer didn't know a lick about Alpha Flight especially Snowbird as she can't be in the US at that time due to her powers, or Guardian as he doesn't wear a suit he is the suit becoming a cyborg. Also at that time AF left the government, but they said they were with them.

Wrong, he did fight Hercules. Wow, and wooden spikes impaled him in the same issue and if you knew anything about...oh hell just look at the respect thread and will save me hell of a time. Sasquatch was said to be weakened when he transformed and had the biggest blows, when he fought thing when he was in his exo-suit which was said to be near equal to his original strength he dominated him. Everything I have said is clear as day in the respect thread, yet....I guess it's to hard to do some research I suppose.

Originally posted by King_Mungi

Wrong, he did fight Hercules.

Like I said he didn't really fight Hercules. As he didn't get a chance to. Why don't you do some research instead of painting this nobody can beat Sasquatch nonsense. And like has already been stated Sasquatch even admitted Hulk kicked his @ss.
Originally posted by King_Mungi

Wow, and wooden spikes impaled him in the same issue and if you knew anything about...oh hell just look at the respect thread and will save me hell of a time..
I read the series. And saw Sasquatch being impaled.
Originally posted by King_Mungi

Sasquatch was said to be weakened when he transformed and had the biggest blows,
Once again you conveniently forget to add something. Thing was weakned also! 😱
Originally posted by King_Mungi

when he fought thing when he was in his exo-suit which was said to be near equal to his original strength he dominated him. Everything I have said is clear as day in the respect thread, yet....I guess it's to hard to do some research I suppose.
I wouldn't use that example of the exo-suit if I was you. I'm pretty sure Thing was nowhere near his full strength and durability with that.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Like I said he didn't really fight Hercules. As he didn't get a chance to. Why don't you do some research instead of painting this nobody can beat Sasquatch nonsense. And like has already been stated Sasquatch even admitted Hulk kicked his @ss.

I read the series. And saw Sasquatch being impaled.

Once again you conveniently forget to add something. Thing was weakned also! 😱

I wouldn't use that example of the exo-suit if I was you. I'm pretty sure Thing was nowhere near his full strength and durability with that.

Hercules cold-clogged him twice and Sasquatch wasn't expecting it and had no idea what was going on and quickly recovered and was none the worse for wear. So apparently he can take Hercules punches with his guard down, but not Juggernaut..hmmmm. No I never said Sasquatch was unbeatable, but your saying he lost battles he never did and were proven wrong several times. Wow you tell me do to some research when I called you up on several of your bullshit comments. Not really, he didn't easily beat him as they went toe to toe for 30 minutes and Sasquatch wasn't enraged he actually felt guilty.

Good for you, but are you forgetting the fact Sasquatch on more than one occasion has taken armor pericing machine gun fire with no effect?...hmmmm...so I suppose wooden spikes > armor peircing machine gun fire. 🙄

Not really, if you know the fact Sasquatch can increase his strength via angry or pain you would know...oh hell...*points to respect thread* Even Super Skrull stated and at that time was stronger than Thing, was shocked by Sasquatch's might "and realized with bone-chilling certainty that his full strength (Super Skrull) may not be sufficient".

bwaha you tell me to do some research yet Richards in the issue he created stated not once but several times "restore most of the strength he used to possess" and "make you nearly as powerful as before". Proven wrong once again

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hercules cold-clogged him twice and Sasquatch wasn't expecting it and had no idea what was going on and quickly recovered and was none the worse for wear. So apparently he can take Hercules punches with his guard down, but not Juggernaut..hmmmm.
Herc. was playing around. He wasn't fighting for blood. 😄
Originally posted by King_Mungi

No I never said Sasquatch was unbeatable, but your saying he lost battles he never did and were proven wrong several times. Wow you tell me do to some research when I called you up on several of your bullshit comments. Not really, he didn't easily beat him as they went toe to toe for 30 minutes and Sasquatch wasn't enraged he actually felt guilty.

Does not change the fact that he said himself that Hulk kicked his @ss basically. Why don't you post that scan?
Originally posted by King_Mungi

Good for you, but are you forgetting the fact Sasquatch on more than one occasion has taken armor pericing machine gun fire with no effect?...hmmmm...so I suppose wooden spikes > armor peircing machine gun fire. 🙄

Sasquatches 2,000 pound body worked against him there. It still happened and it's cannon.
Originally posted by King_Mungi

Not really, if you know the fact Sasquatch can increase his strength via angry or mad you would know...oh hell...*points to respect thread*

Sasquatch hardly has even displayed that power. So it's not a viable tactic.

Originally posted by King_Mungi

bwaha you tell me to do some research yet Richards in the issue he created stated not once but several times "restore most of the strength he used to possess". Proven wrong once again

Close? That's not good enough. It's obvious his durability was not even close. Otherwise Sasquatch would have never torn him apart like that. In their first fight Sasquatches punches could not put Ben down. It's not a good comparison. Considering Thing>>>exo-suit Thing.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Herc. was playing around. He wasn't fighting for blood. 😄

Does not change the fact that he said himself that Hulk kicked his @ss basically. Why don't you post that scan?

Sasquatches 2,000 pound body worked against him there. It still happened and it's cannon.

Sasquatch hardly has even displayed that power. So it's not a viable tactic.

Close? That's not good enough. It's obvious his durability was not even close. Otherwise Sasquatch would have never torn him apart like that. In their first fight Sasquatches punches could not put Ben down. It's not a good comparison. Considering Thing>>>exo-suit Thing.

Pfft...then what about the other characters that would make classic Juggneraut look like a chump. Sasquatch snapped the neck of Somon who killed Talisman, Manikin and his forms, Northstar and Aurora all with with one move. He frequently goes against skyfat...gah *points to respect thread*

Because what was said is exactally what he said in the comics, no need.

Wrong, not on this board as it's called PIS and CIS. Would you like me to direct you to the rules of the board?

Wrong again, he frequently did it right until his death and when he came back it was happening again. Sasquatch is even scared of using his full power

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Wrong again, Reed stated it as so. Sasquatch as noted in the issue when he fought was growing stronger due to Headlok unleashing his madness. Even Super Skrull stated and at that time was stronger than Thing, was shocked by Sasquatch's might "and realized with bone-chilling certainty that his full strength (Super Skrull) may not be sufficient". Considering what Reed said and Thing showed...not by much. Research, research, research

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Pfft...then what about the other characters that would make classic Juggneraut look like a chump. Sasquatch snapped the neck of Somon who killed Talisman, Manikin and his forms, Northstar and Aurora all with with one move. He frequently goes against skyfat...gah *points to respect thread*
Are you saying Sasquatch can beat classic Juggernaut? Oh my we have a god-like Sasquatch brewing now. 😆

Originally posted by King_Mungi

Because what was said is exactally what he said in the comics, no need.

And Sasquatch said he's no match for Hulk.
Originally posted by King_Mungi

Wrong, not on this board as it's called PIS and CIS. Would you like me to direct you to the rules of the board?
Anytime something happens you don't like you cry PIS and CIS. 😆 Pathetic.
Originally posted by King_Mungi

Wrong again, he frequently did it right until his death and when he came back it was happening again. Sasquatch is even scared of using his full power
God-like Sasquatch. It's got a good ring to it.

Originally posted by King_Mungi

Wrong again, Reed stated it as so. Sasquatch as noted in the issue when he fought was growing stronger due to Headlok unleashing his madness. Even Super Skrull stated and at that time was stronger than Thing, was shocked by Sasquatch's might "and realized with bone-chilling certainty that his full strength (Super Skrull) may not be sufficient". Considering what Reed said and Thing showed...not by much. Research, research, research

Are you saying exo-suit Thing=Thing? Nice one. That was by far Thing as his worst and your using it like it's exactly how a fight would go down.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Are you saying Sasquatch can beat classic Juggernaut? Oh my we have a god-like Sasquatch brewing now. 😆

And Sasquatch said he's no match for Hulk.
Anytime something happens you don't like you cry PIS and CIS. 😆 Pathetic.
God-like Sasquatch. It's got a good ring to it.

Are you saying exo-suit Thing=Thing? Nice one. That was by far Thing as his worst and your using it like it's exactly how a fight would go down.

Hell no, there isn't anything physically he could do to him. If it's Tanaraq maybe but not through physical means but doing things like this. That's Talisman, Dr.Strange's equal. Have I even made the claim anywhere in this thread he could take classic Jugz? NO! So don't pull that crap

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No he didn't.

haha dude, read the rules. If a character has shown on multiple occasion to take things far stronger than wooden spikes why would the spikes make it canon. Rules of the board state they go by their best showing unless noted. Hmmm..maybe I should redirect you to the rules.

Elder God Tanaraq, he's even older than the world. A person who fought the Ancient One and Strange was unsure he could beat (“the reemergence of evil, Wong. One that has not seen the light of the sun for centuries—one that I am not certain even I can stop”) was terrified of the Great Beasts

You have a hard time listening to what I said? Look at the quotes smuck, it says near not exact. Nice try though. So even Super Skrull who was stronger than Thing admited his strength would not be enough. Even Ravanger stated Sasquatch was stornger than Thing.

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