Majestic vs. Captain Marvel (Billy: Pre IC)

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Originally posted by Validus
Since when is Billy vulnerable to heat the same way Supes is to a magic fist?

Well... that's the thing. Avalon has told me about some pretty awesome magic resistence feats as of late. Now, his immunity towards it is based on his will power. It's not like what it used to be. 😬 For that, I'd give Superman the slight majority. (Plus, you said IGNORING the T-Vo)

Originally posted by batdude123
Well... that's the thing. Avalon has told me about some pretty awesome magic resistence feats as of late. Now, his immunity towards it is based on his will power. It's not like what it used to be. 😬 For that, I'd give Superman the slight majority. (Plus, you said IGNORING the T-Vo)

He's always had feats of magic resistance. I still see the lightning fist as the biggest deciding factor in a bloodlusted match between the two.

Originally posted by Validus
He's always had feats of magic resistance. I still see the lightning fist as the biggest deciding factor in a bloodlusted match between the two.

Right, however there are more as of late. Though he DOES have other powers besides hv you know. I also think Superman is slightly faster as well...

Originally posted by batdude123
Superman isn't vulnerable to telepathy. 🤨

*coughMaxLordcough*

At one point he was written as much more suseptible to telepathy, though I realize they've invented new stuff for him to overcome that.

I actually read a JLA arc not too long ago where an amateur girl telepath took over Supes rather easily for some vampire-like blood guy, so I can't be too far off. Even Stewart was able to block her tp attacks, but Kal couldn't. J'onn had to disguise himself as Diana or somesuch and trick the vampire guy.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
*coughMaxLordcough*

At one point he was written as much more suseptible to telepathy, though I realize they've invented new stuff for him to overcome that.

I actually read a JLA arc not too long ago where an amateur girl telepath took over Supes rather easily for some vampire-like blood guy, so I can't be too far off. Even Stewart was able to block her tp attacks, but Kal couldn't. J'onn had to disguise himself as Diana or somesuch and trick the vampire guy.

Digi Digi.... ❌

Superman isn't vulnerable to telepathy at all. In fact, he's rather resistent towards it.

Max Lord was working on Superman's mind for TEN YEARS before he could penetrate it and actually control his mind. He had to disguise himself as a friend to Superman in order to do so.

Oh, and he's also shrugged of Despero's mind control even though it worked on Batman and Hal Jordan. He's also (Despero) mentally made J'onn his b*tch. 😬

He's not vulnerable to it by any means...

Originally posted by batdude123
Well... that's the thing. Avalon has told me about some pretty awesome magic resistence feats as of late. Now, his immunity towards it is based on his will power. It's not like what it used to be. 😬 For that, I'd give Superman the slight majority. (Plus, you said IGNORING the T-Vo)

He also has some pretty good feats of resisting kryptonite, but that and magic are both still his two primary weaknesses.
Originally posted by batdude123
Oh, and he's also shrugged of Despero's mind control even though it worked on Batman and Hal Jordan. He's also (Despero) mentally made J'onn his b*tch. 😬

He's not vulnerable to it by any means...


I wouldn't "shrugged off." As I recall, Despero was just taking over his mind when Zatanna jumped in and stopped him.

Originally posted by Accel
He also has some pretty good feats of resisting kryptonite, but that and magic are both still his two primary weaknesses.

And yet, in one JLA arc he was considered the most magically resistent one on the team.

He also took on Etrigan who was peppering him with magic, but he was still going strong. He even inhaled all the magic in his lungs.

Straight up Pis

Originally posted by batdude123
And yet, in one JLA arc he was considered the most magically resistent one on the team.

He also took on Etrigan who was peppering him with magic, but he was still going strong. He even inhaled all the magic in his lungs.


Which just goes back to what I just said. I believe he's also taken a nuke to the chest when standing knee-deep in kryptonite. This doesn't mean it's not his weakness though.

Originally posted by Accel
Which just goes back to what I just said. I believe he's also taken a nuke to the chest when standing knee-deep in kryptonite. This doesn't mean it's not his weakness though.

Yeah... it's one of the only things that's considered his "weakness." However, that doesn't give Billy the majority. It would if Superman were to simply go h2h with CM the entire time while Batson uses his lightning charged fists.

Originally posted by Milkie
Straight up Pis

🙄

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah... it's one of the only things that's considered his "weakness." However, that doesn't give Billy the majority. It would if Superman were to simply go h2h with CM the entire time while Batson uses his lightning charged fists.

I see it as giving him more of an advantage then, say, Superman's ice breath gives him an advantage.

Originally posted by Accel
I see it as giving him more of an advantage then, say, Superman's ice breath gives him an advantage.

Sure... but Batson only really has one option against Superman. Superman has ice breath, combined with many other things to AT LEAST distract Batson enough to beat the tar out of him. Superman's overall versatility and slight speed advantage makes me believe he'd win the slight majority.

Originally posted by batdude123
Digi Digi.... ❌

Superman isn't vulnerable to telepathy at all. In fact, he's rather resistent towards it.

Max Lord was working on Superman's mind for TEN YEARS before he could penetrate it and actually control his mind. He had to disguise himself as a friend to Superman in order to do so.


Co-sign with this. I mean, we all know Max Lord is a top tier, Xavier level telepath.

Originally posted by batdude123
Sure... but Batson only really has one option against Superman. Superman has ice breath, combined with many other things to AT LEAST distract Batson enough to beat the tar out of him. Superman's overall versatility and slight speed advantage makes me believe he'd win the slight majority.

Distract him how? Billy's not going to go, "Ooooh, heat vision. Pretty..."

Originally posted by batdude123
Sure... if we ignore Superman's other slew of powers.
Which do nothing to Marvel😎

Originally posted by Accel
Distract him how? Billy's not going to go, "Ooooh, heat vision. Pretty..."

Not like that. I mean it could slow him down enough for Superman to win. And besides, he never goes all out with the heat vision on Billy.

Originally posted by D-Block
Which do nothing to Marvel😎

Yeah, because he never goes all out with his powers against Billy. 🤨 He's not out for the kill against Marvel.

Originally posted by Validus
Co-sign with this. I mean, we all know Max Lord is a top tier, Xavier level telepath.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, however it DID take him 10 years.

Originally posted by batdude123
Not like that. I mean it could slow him down enough for Superman to win. And besides, he never goes all out with the heat vision on Billy.

Considering Marvel's magic invulnerability is right up there with Supes, would it really matter?