Children of men

Started by forumcrew5 pages

am I the only one who didnt think it was very good? Maybe i was expecting too much but I found parts laughable and it seemed like the writers decided to go on vacation early and just created the final half hour ending in about 5 minutes.

also

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clive owen winner of the worst death scene even

i thought it looked good...but i remember seeing a trailer for it a while back and figured it never got released

Originally posted by forumcrew
am I the only one who didnt think it was very good? Maybe i was expecting too much but I found parts laughable and it seemed like the writers decided to go on vacation early and just created the final half hour ending in about 5 minutes.

also

Spoiler:
clive owen winner of the worst death scene even

I respectfully disagree, I think it's probably the most human, and realistic death ever to take place on the silver screen.

i thought this film was absolutely amazing. the images we see are so haunting and powerful, and that action seen which is all in one shot is one of the most amazing and horrifying sequences i have seen in recent years. the ending was very abrupt, but it is better to end the film with people wanting more than wishing it would end already.

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ok but they were so secretive the entire time then the writers arnt sure what to do so they just have them pull the baby out and stroll down the road. They go right past everyone on both sides and waltz over to the boat.... um if it was that ****in easy why didnt you do it an hour earlier?

Originally posted by forumcrew
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ok but they were so secretive the entire time then the writers arnt sure what to do so they just have them pull the baby out and stroll down the road. They go right past everyone on both sides and waltz over to the boat.... um if it was that ****in easy why didnt you do it an hour earlier?
a) you really don't need spoilers for that.
b) you obviously didn't understand the movie

i did understand the movie. They made a big point of being unable to go to the government or have the government find out. So under that assumption if you show the government a baby and have the woman who is fertile there they would detain her.

Originally posted by forumcrew
i did understand the movie. They made a big point of being unable to go to the government or have the government find out. So under that assumption if you show the government a baby and have the woman who is fertile there they would detain her.
the concern was the fact that the mother was an illegal immigrant and they were afraid she would be tortured and killed

More importantly, not losing thier secret weapon to use against the gov't.
They didnt care about the actual mother at all.

And, I dont think it was that easy to walk over to the boat. He did get shot at by a few soldiers and I think was shot at with an heavy machine gun. Also, walking through the building while tanks were blasting it away with tank shells.

It was easy afterwords because individual soldiers were taken aback by the newborn baby, and didnt really care about orders because it was the first evidence of the future.

The original idea was to walk over to the boat, but they got inturupted.

Originally posted by Smasandian
More importantly, not losing thier secret weapon to use against the gov't.
They didnt care about the actual mother at all.
well, the freedom fighters didn't, maybe, but Theo sure did

the original idea was the sneak to the boat and yea they got shot at by everyone. Then after he got the girl and baby back he just said forget being sneaky lets go out in the open maybe everyone will let us pass. And everyone let them go freely not one person tried to stop them.

Originally posted by forumcrew
the original idea was the sneak to the boat and yea they got shot at by everyone. Then after he got the girl and baby back he just said forget being sneaky lets go out in the open maybe everyone will let us pass. And everyone let them go freely not one person tried to stop them.
because they were stunned to actually see a baby. After 18 years of infertility, wouldn't you be?

As Strangelove pointed out, those people seeing the baby were absoutly stunned. Didnt you notice all the people crying, praying, trying to touch the feet of the newborn baby? It's kinda of thier saviour to them.

Also, Strangelove, Theo did, but I dont think the Phishes really cared that much outside the fact that she might be useful for testing to see why she was pregnent. But other than that, once they had the baby, I dont think they cared less about her. I think.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Also, Strangelove, Theo did, but I dont think the Phishes really cared that much outside the fact that she might be useful for testing to see why she was pregnent. But other than that, once they had the baby, I dont think they cared less about her. I think.
Right. But some of the Phishes wanted to keep the baby in the country so they could use it as a rallying flag against the totalitarian government

Yeah, I know.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Yeah, I know.
fantastic 🙂

I thought it friggen ruled. Put the plot aside. It was such an easy concept, like some kind of silly thought P.D James has about women being infertile once and writes a book about it with that whole eerie 'what if' feeling

but Emmanuel Lubezki! what a beautiful cinematographer. His work on Sleepy Hollow was absolutely breath taking and most of what i was thinking through this entire movie was "holy crap these shots are beautiful."

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Originally posted by jusanotherfreak

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i was trying to figure out how to use the spoiler crap, but its editing system is anal:

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The colors in the movie were so incredible. Even in a random moment where Theo was coming out of his door when he hears the motorcycle outside the Phishes' barn, and that one light was on in the hallway. The same sort of image was used when Kee was giving birth, and all they had was that one really bright lantern in the room. Everything in London and the Immigrant Camp was really washed out and bleak, grays and dark darks. Then in Jasper's house, and in that random Gypsy's friend's house, and the old school, they used color really nicely to create this really nostalgic sense of safety...
oh man i forgot how good that whole school scene was. With Kee on the swing framed in the broken piece of the window.

I'm going to shut up. Point is, Emmanuel Lubezki rules.

Everybody is talking about the visuals, but what about the sound!?!

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Like the beginning when there is an explosion that makes Clive's ears ring and the director has that ringing continue and slowly fade over a few minutes so you are experiencing what he is. Brilliant.

I quite enjoyed it, very realistic as to what the world would like if we were in the midst of such a disaster.

The imagery of a dying London was very disturbing. Michaelangelo's David with an iron leg, Picasso's Guerinca in a dining room, the flying pig balloon.

Speaking of sounds, the ending was a bit too happy for me though. The noises of children playing as the credit rolled.