Thanos with IG vs White Crown Phoenix

Originally posted by complexbrother
I just read the book where someone (you know who you are) 🙄 keep saying that the Phoenix was holding the universe in it's hand in the white hot room, well what it it's holding is repesintation (sp?) of the universe as it was talking about what it really is .

read it's full bio on [b]MARVEL'S OWN SITE I don't see how you can argue with the makers of the chareter .

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Phoenix_Force

and to dispute what MARVEL has put there in black and white is extremly fan boyish . 😮 [/B]

Originally posted by complexbrother
I just read the book where someone (you know who you are) 🙄 keep saying that the Phoenix was holding the universe in it's hand in the white hot room, well what it it's holding is repesintation (sp?) of the universe as it was talking about what it really is .

read it's full bio on [b]MARVEL'S OWN SITE I don't see how you can argue with the makers of the chareter .

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Phoenix_Force

and to dispute what MARVEL has put there in black and white is extremly fan boyish . 😮 [/B]

Only because I hate bios I overlooked that, but Marvel.com itself said it.

Great freakin job complexbrother.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Only because I hate bios I overlooked that, but Marvel.com itself said it.

Great freakin job complexbrother.

Originally posted by bigbran
I have one complaint, that will probably ruin everything. I just can't hold it in.
PHOENIX DIDN'T CREATE GALACTUS!!!

Which is why I HATE BIOS!

But it did agree with me on the Universe in her hands being nothing more than a visualization or representation of the events of Here Comes Tomorrow basically. 😄

Originally posted by complexbrother
I just read the book where someone (you know who you are) 🙄 keep saying that the Phoenix was holding the universe in it's hand in the white hot room, well what it it's holding is repesintation (sp?) of the universe as it was talking about what it really is .

read it's full bio on [b]MARVEL'S OWN SITE I don't see how you can argue with the makers of the chareter .

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Phoenix_Force[/B]

Can you please show me where in that bio it states that the universe Phoenix was holding was a mere representation. I cant seem to find it and as such your point about me disputing what Marvel states in black and white unfortunately goes down the drain 👇

Is manipulating at an atomic level the matter of a palm sized visualization really going to be a potentially hard task for a Phoenix avatar? 😕

Are you really going to try and argue that? The universe wasnt a mere representation.

Does the Phoenix Consciousness not tell Jean to go to the hospital to treat the patient?

Does Jean not the materialize within the hospital what we're told is a badly wounded universe within her hand? While doing so does the Consciousness not refer to what a potentially daunting task controlling all of those atoms could prove to be?

Despite that you would really ty and argue that the Consciousness was talking about the atoms of a palm sized hologram? 🙄

Your argument is poor and woefully supported.

Originally posted by complexbrother
and to dispute what [b]MARVEL has put there in black and white is extremly fan boyish . 😮 [/B]

Doesnt apply to me. Im known for referencing the handbooks oftenand promoting the need to have conclusive on panel evidence to support arguments. Your point is misdirected.

Who around here is known for trying to dismiss handbook entries when they dont fit in with their opinion. Despite the fact that said entries might have on panel support? 😖hifty:

- GS 😱

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
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You also now claim to agree that its fanboyish to dispute whats stated by Marvel official sources? 😕 Interesting. 😖hifty:

We are all retarted idiots Who don't see the true potentional of the Phoenix!!!!!

Thanks to Phoenix we could read the Infinity gauntlet saga since:

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Everything youre reading in 616 comics today is the fruition of Jeans work.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Thanks to Phoenix we could read the Infinity gauntlet saga since:

Again illustrating both the difficulty you have with understanding and interpreting statements and the density of your skull. 🙁

Did the White Hot Room incident happen before or after the Infinity Gauntlet Saga my friend? 😕

So why would the much earlier IG Saga be the fruition of Jeans fixing of reality and resultant continuation of the 616 timeline?

❌ Silly silly. 😂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Again illustrating both the difficulty you have with understanding and interpreting statements and the density of your skull. 🙁

Did the White Hot Room incident happen before or after the Infinity Gauntlet Saga my friend? 😕

So why would the much earlier IG Saga be the fruition of Jeans fixing of reality and resultant continuation of the 616 timeline?

❌ Silly silly. 😂

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
😬 I was just joking

Sure you were 🙂

Easy to say that when your faux pas has been pointed out to you. 😬

IG, Thanos, Multiverse, You Juggernaut and me are all created by the Phoenix...

Actually according to your logic GS, we do have Phoenix to thank.

If Phoenix started the big bang or created it, it made the IG.

😄

We <3 Phoenix!

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
Actually according to your logic GS, we do have Phoenix to thank.

If Phoenix started the big bang or created it, it made the IG.

😄

We <3 Phoenix!

I dont say the Phoenix is the power behind the Big Bang, Marvel does:

In light of that dont try and make out that its some crazy fanboy notion that ive concocted. ❌

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
Actually according to your logic GS, we do have Phoenix to thank.

If Phoenix started the big bang or created it, it made the IG.

😄

We <3 Phoenix!

Anyway, before the IG became gems, they were one being, everywhere.(or some shit like that) No one has ever tapped into its full potential.

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
Actually according to your logic GS, we do have Phoenix to thank.

If Phoenix started the big bang or created it, it made the IG.

😄

We <3 Phoenix!

U R WRONG SIR! The hierarchy goes like this!

1] TOAA
2] Phoenix Force <===PAY ATTENTION PEOPLE. "Second only to the creator." (Watcher)
3] The Big Bang <=== Second only to Phoenix Force (some speculate that the BB and PF are the same being. So the BB may be higher up the chain)
4] The Living Tribunal => because he didn't create the big bang...Phoenix did
5] Infinity Gauntlet => because it came from the big bang
6] Abstracts => because they came from the big bang
7] Celestials => came from the big bang
8] cosmic cubes => see 7, 6, 5
9] gods and demons = see 8
10] Everybody else
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Note: "Everybody else" does not include Magneto, alien weaponry, a.i. ships, servants of Elder Gods, Dormammu, Onslaught, or Quasar. In fact they are too powerful to be in the same list as these noobs...that includes the BB and PF.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B]The plan had everything to do with the Phoenix. The process as stated by Death, Eternity and Prosh was only possible with the Phoenixes involvement in reality, hence Phoenix as the central image, with the abstracts bowing down to a Phoenix enhanced Stranger to the right of her.

Only if weed was involved during the reading of X-Men Forever would some say that bull. Then again...you are the biggest Phoenix fanboy so...

Im gonna make a thread about each of these Phoenix issues youre trying to dispute and we will deal with them one at a time. We will not move on to a separate issue until the first has been handled and one side has conceded.

Why make another? Just dig up that one with the Kaballah bonzi tree where we learned that the Phoenix Force was a part of the Creator and more powerful than the Living Tribunal. That was some entertaining bull.

Im a lazy guy i wont respond to a massive post featuring multiple different topics. At least this way we'll get this sorted and some people wont have the oppurtunity to avoid dealing with issues by jumping to another.

Isn't that what you usually do? Jump issues when your fronted with them? 😂

If Phoenix is the big bang doesn't that mean Genis-vell > Phoenix?
Since Genis-vell was collapsing the big bang?
http://img101.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=66511_zemo7.jpg

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B]The abstracts are just aspects of the universe. 😕

Jean put the universe on its death bed by casually amputating its future. 😕

(No being in Marvel has shown such capacity, to be able to cut at the very substance of time itself)

After that Jean materialized the universe within the white hot room within the palm of her hand.

That little glowing ball she had in her hand, that insiginicant blob she manipulated like putty, the abstracts are just little aspects of it. 😄

Just manifesting a consciousness on the physical plane makes the Force gradually kill the universe by absorbing its life energy.

Where did you get all this FROM? She was abosrbing it's life energy? LOL. Magneto was giving her a stroke and killing her ass.

Phoenixes power bound the multiversal M'Kraan crystal.[quote]

Wait? How many abstracts do you see quiver at the MK Crystal like they do against the Gauntlet or the Nullifier? None.

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All of those feats are beyond beating a few universal abstracts.

Bull. How many times have you seen any of these beings given the opportunity to do something like this? NONE at all. It's beyond who? What issue was it where Eternity failed to stop the Crystal and Phoenix did? I remember now! It's in that special, limited X-fanboy edition.

This is the same b.s. as Superboy Prime punching time and retconning things so he must about abstract level or above.

The Igs top feats dont match up to Phoenixes.

Of course not. IG's top feats are actually top concrete feats. Phoenix's are ambiguous and up for interpretation.

It still amuzes me to see you harp G.S. This is a fight and if guys like Dormammu, Magneto, Galactus, and Mordred give the Phoenix trouble then Thanos would slap that bird around while shoving crackers down it's throat.

Thanos 11/10

thanos wins this im afraid.