Beast vs. Doc Ock

Started by lando0053 pages

Originally posted by Metalmanx
To each their own, I guess. I can't really argue much with your opinion, even though I think the feats speak for themselves. If anything, Nightcrawler is tied with Beast at #2.

1. Spider-Man
2. Beast/Nightcrawler
3. Daredevil
4. Cap
5. Elektra


true eveyone has thier own oppinion and mine would be
1. mr fantastic
2. spider-man/beast/nightcralwer/puck
3. dd
4. cap

Originally posted by lando005
true eveyone has thier own oppinion and mine would be
1. mr fantastic
2. spider-man/beast/nightcralwer/puck
3. dd
4. cap

I don't consider Mr. Fantastic to be "agile" in the true sense of the word. He manipulates his body to do extraordinary things, but I don't feel that it's really considered "agility". But hey, that's just me.

Originally posted by lando005
i wouldnt say he's outright smarter than spider-man.... he's makeing better use of his potental thats for sure also i dont think beast is as street smart or as resourceful as spider-man is

come on be real, you compare spider-man intelligence with beast? 🙄

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
come on be real, you compare spider-man intelligence with beast? 🙄

It's a different kind of intelligence, my friend.

Beast's Scientific intelligence >>> Spidey's.

Spidey's Street-smarts/Resourcefulness Intelligence >>> Beast's.

And these are by NO means putting the other one down at all.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
It's a different kind of intelligence, my friend.

Beast's Scientific intelligence >>> Spidey's.

Spidey's Street-smarts/Resourcefulness Intelligence >>> Beast's.

And these are by NO means putting the other one down at all.

actually you are very right... in a fight its more important to have a street smarts , beast was showed as someone who fight smart (when he actually fights) but the thing that will help him most of all is his agility , IMO he can take doc ock , and if doc ock catch him he can flip him over just like he did to juggernaut because unlike spider-man beast use acrobatics in his fights as a form of fighting

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
actually you are very right... in a fight its more important to have a street smarts , beast was showed as someone who fight smart (when he actually fights) but the thing that will help him most of all is his agility , IMO he can take doc ock , and if doc ock catch him he can flip him over just like he did to juggernaut because unlike spider-man beast use acrobatics in his fights as a form of fighting

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"because unlike spider-man beast use acrobatics in his fights as a form of fighting"

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That's what Spider-Man DOES.

you dont understand, i dont mean acrobatic movement, i mean to use it as a form of fighting, spider-man use punches kicks but he doesnt use all that acrobatics as form of fighting, beast showed many times to use it like when he flips juggernaut, or when a huge guy grabs him and beast just jumps with him and drops on his head, if doc ock catch beast then beast can just flip him over with his acrobatic flips and jumps , he got the strength and weigth to do it

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
you dont understand, i dont mean acrobatic movement, i mean to use it as a form of fighting, spider-man use punches kicks but he doesnt use all that acrobatics as form of fighting, beast showed many times to use it like when he flips juggernaut, or when a huge guy grabs him and beast just jumps with him and drops on his head, if doc ock catch beast then beast can just flip him over with his acrobatic flips and jumps , he got the strength and weigth to do it

No, dude. I understand perfectly. I'm trying to say that Spider-Man does that ALL the time, too.

Check it.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5436347

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5436356

See what I mean? 😎

ye i see your point , but i never saw him using his acrobatics when someone catch him or grabs him, now beast got much more weigth then spider-man and can use the weigth+acrobatics to get out of grabs like those

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
actually you are very right... in a fight its more important to have a street smarts , beast was showed as someone who fight smart (when he actually fights) but the thing that will help him most of all is his agility , IMO he can take doc ock , and if doc ock catch him he can flip him over just like he did to juggernaut because unlike spider-man beast use acrobatics in his fights as a form of fighting

1. Doc Ock can catch him. You bet your ass Doc Ock can catch him
2. I don't see how his agility will help him. I'm not discrediting his agility. But it doesn't help Spiderman nearly as much as you say.
3. I don't see how he juggernaut trick will work with four tentacles.

Dr. Octopus 7-8/10. Way too dangerous.

I'd like to see some of Beast's agility feats.

Is there a respect thread?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I don't consider Mr. Fantastic to be "agile" in the true sense of the word. He manipulates his body to do extraordinary things, but I don't feel that it's really considered "agility". But hey, that's just me.
In the old cards, Reed had a very high agility rating. He's the only character I'd consider more agile than Spidey

I think Doc Ock and his arms enable him to take the majority.

Doc Ock 7-8/10

doctoroctopus

I think:

1. Spiderman
2. Nightcrawler/Beast/Toad
3. Captain America/Gambit
4. Daredevil
5. Elektra/Wolverine
😖hifty:
6. Blob

Originally posted by Metalmanx
It's a different kind of intelligence, my friend.

Beast's Scientific intelligence >>> Spidey's.

Spidey's Street-smarts/Resourcefulness Intelligence >>> Beast's.

And these are by NO means putting the other one down at all.

actually while you were right about this post i was also refering to spider-man scinetific potential, he's show incredible amounts of scinetifi talant but his skills as a scientist is hindered with his busy life and his life as spider-man,if he ever did just buckle down and stick to the books he would probably be on par with reed

Originally posted by lando005
actually while you were right about this post i was also refering to spider-man scinetific potential, he's show incredible amounts of scinetifi talant but his skills as a scientist is hindered with his busy life and his life as spider-man,if he ever did just buckle down and stick to the books he would probably be on par with reed

You're telling me spiderman is as smart as Reed don't make me laugh.

Originally posted by Brutacus
You're telling me spiderman is as smart as Reed don't make me laugh.
i'm saying he has the potential big diffrence

Originally posted by lando005
i'm saying he has the potential big diffrence
I agree. For a guy who had to balance work, social life, being Spiderman, and going to college he sure absorbed a lot of scientific knowledge. If he had become Spiderman later on in his life, I think he could have matched Reed in intelligence.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I agree. For a guy who had to balance work, social life, being Spiderman, and going to college he sure absorbed a lot of scientific knowledge. If he had become Spiderman later on in his life, I think he could have matched Reed in intelligence.
thankyou that and big brains like hank pym tony stark and mr fantastic reed richards himself have all commented on his potential