Originally posted by BlaqChaosI still think that the DCU comes out on top, especially with the entire GL corps
Just to clarify, Spectre, Michael, Lucificer, and the others would no more participate in this battle any more than the Living Tribunal, Eternity, or Infinity have in Marvel.Now, with that siad, the GL Corps, Apokolips, New Genesis, the Thanigarians, etc. WOULD participate in this war.
seriously theres lots in DC. Current ion could trap quite a few in a pocket universe like he did with Nero or use his uber blast like he did with nero. then the GL corps with Hal, Kilowog, Guy Gardener, and John. and MM, and the forces of Darkseid, and New Genesis, and Supes, Wonder Woman, Black Adam, etc.
The Corps could probably take out the Wave themselves.
I'm not sure of the exact number within the Annihilation Wave but there's currently 7200 Gls.
Now stop and think for a minute
7200 rings that can do ANYTHING , literally ANYTHING. Black Holes ? No problem. Planet creation and destruction ? Simple enough . Time freeze ? Ehh forget about it.
The Corps railroad their way over the Wave so fast marvel would have to somehow end PH and then bring WWH into fruition in a single issue just to bridge the gap.
Originally posted by grey foxAbsolutely.... ✅
The Corps could probably take out the Wave themselves.I'm not sure of the exact number within the Annihilation Wave but there's currently 7200 Gls.
Now stop and think for a minute
7200 rings that can do ANYTHING , literally ANYTHING. Black Holes ? No problem. Planet creation and destruction ? Simple enough . Time freeze ? Ehh forget about it.
The Corps railroad their way over the Wave so fast marvel would have to somehow end PH and then bring WWH into fruition in a single issue just to bridge the gap.
The wave's normal forces would be no match for the GL's. Even their overwhelming numbers wouldn't stand a chance against teh resourceful GL corps. But those seekers are imbued with the Negative Zone's version of the Power Cosmic. I think its fair to say that Galactus Herald level beings can beat up on GL's. Grab a whole bunch of them and throw Annihilus in there, who can apparently absorb any kind of energy and I think the GL corps goes kaput. GL corps loses to people that can manipulate ther energy (Parallax) and loses to overwhelming force (Superboy Prime), so its not beyond imagination to see that the Annihilation Wave with Annihilus and his Seekers could destroy em.
I think the JLA gets overwhelmed easily. Batman might be able to do something with prep. But Super-Skrull's plot to use a virus to destroy their doomsday machine would only have done that, and Nova's smart reconfiguring of the Annihilus Wave's commands while linked to Annihilus only worked for a short time since the Annihilus wave compensated and stopped that. I don't think there's a convenient computer virus or self-destruct mechanism/command that Batman could utilize. Makes me wonder just how the Marvel universe is gonna deal with them. The rest of them DCU cosmic heroes like Captain Comet, Adam Strange, Starman would get super-spanked. I don't know about Ion though. I haven't read much of him. But Annihilus fully absorbed the Quantum Force and nearly absorbed the totality of the Novaforce. Stands to reason he could absorb the Power of the Guardians. If he can, Kyle's f'ed and so's the DCU.
I also agree that Spectre and other cosmic beings would not get involved. I'd still think even if Spectre did, he'd have to absorb a crapload of magic to do so and then Annihilus would spank him with an anti-matter field and render his magics useless ftw.
I was wondering that too. When the hell did Annihilus get so strong? I've seen Quasar punked before by androids, so it wasn't totally surprising to see him utterly destroyed like that. But that was pretty badass. Didn't Thor beat Annihilus at one point? Anybody know?
I think if the senario was the same as it was in Marvel, the Annihilation Wave takes it. Top Tiers of the wave being:
Annihilus (w/Quasar Bands)
Thanos
A weapon powered by Galactus
Tenebrous
Aegis
Terrax
Ravenous
Tons of near-herald level soldiers and their 'dogs'
Then their seemingly limitless suply of shock troops and starships.
Provided the big guns (like Spectre and Mr Mxy) don't get involved, I think the Wave takes Apokolips before the rest of the Universe notices, then proceeds to battle and (IMO) defeat the GL corps. With their "Galactus Gun," Tenebrous, Aegis, and Thanos, plus nigh-infintie fodder, I think they pass the GL's...maybe not unscathed, but they pass it. I don't believe the JLA will be a problem at all for the Wave. If 6 Heralds and Galactus didn't even slow down the wave, I don't think the JLA is going to do much.
Also, this is barely past the tip of the iceberg for the Wave, I think we're going to see a lot more strength revealed in the next couple months.
TO be fair about the GL Corps not all of them are that tough. While I do not doubt they could hold off the wave I don't see them stopping it. When you think about it the wave has been taking over and controling heralds of Galactus and even turned Big G into a Weapon that is not easy to do by any means.
Plus doesn't the wave Possess large scale teleportation as of now which really gives them a huge advantage in any fight.