Originally posted by Eis
Ah, but if we did then there would be protesters protesting us protesting people protesting the protesters protesting in dead soldiers' funerals.Does it make sense now?
Sounds to me like the set of all sets that do not contain themselves as members...hehe, yes, I study mathematics 😎
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Sith, I can't speak for everyone. But I think it's less the fault of the viewing public that nutjobs like this chick and the god warrior woman are representative of the type of people you are, and more yourown fault. You see things like this and don't condemn them openly. When you see protest lines outside a gay soldiers funneral, or Matthew Shepards funeral, you don't see moderate christians there too. There holding signs that condemn people who act like this. And why is that? Because people like Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson are your leaders and they have little to no issues with how these people behave or what they think.
Good point there Cap.
I know I could learn a thing or two from you.
I'm here on the internet condeming this lady, but this needs to be happening on a national level.
All conservative Christian leaders need to call this woman out for her bullshit idea that those innocent girls deaths somehow had something to do with her beef with that states mayor, or govennor, or whoever.
And Bardock, you're ranting man.
Science hasn't "proven" shit about evolution.
It's a theory, not fact.
I'm gonna leave the arguments in the evolution thread (missing fossil records, carbon dating not 100% accurate) but the FACT remains:
The entire world, with all of its systems of support, just showing up randomly out of thin air as enegry, then forming into matter, and so on....
has the statistical probability of happening the way evolutionists say it did of less than 1% ...... or..... the same chance as a tornado forming a working automobile out of the parts in a junkyard.
To quote George Gallup (famous statician and inventor of the Gallup pole):
"I could prove God statistically. Take the human body alone - the chances that all the functions of an individual would just happen is a statistical monstrosity. "
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/george_gallup.html
So why don't you get off of your high horse and stop being mad at conservatives who don't want a "statistical monstrosity" being taught in schools as history, science, and "fact".
And enough with the "evil" or "crazy" talk already.
Christian conservatives are speaking in truth, and you cannot brush them aside.
You can look at the facts and choose to agree or disagree with them, but the "cold, hard truth" is that there is alot of validity in what they are advocating.
Originally posted by sithsaber408HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good point there Cap.I know I could learn a thing or two from you.
I'm here on the internet condeming this lady, but this needs to be happening on a national level.
All conservative Christian leaders need to call this woman out for her bullshit idea that those innocent girls deaths somehow had something to do with her beef with that states mayor, or govennor, or whoever.
And Bardock, you're ranting man.
Science hasn't "proven" shit about evolution.
It's a theory, not fact.
I'm gonna leave the arguments in the evolution thread (missing fossil records, carbon dating not 100% accurate) but the FACT remains:
The entire world, with all of its systems of support, just showing up randomly out of thin air as enegry, then forming into matter, and so on....
has the statistical probability of happening the way evolutionists say it did of less than 1% ...... or..... the same chance as a tornado forming a working automobile out of the parts in a junkyard.
To quote George Gallup (famous statician and inventor of the Gallup pole):
"I could prove God statistically. Take the human body alone - the chances that all the functions of an individual would just happen is a statistical monstrosity. "
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/george_gallup.html
So why don't you get off of your high horse and stop being mad at conservatives who don't want a "statistical monstrosity" being taught in schools as history, science, and "fact".
And enough with the "evil" or "crazy" talk already.
Christian conservatives are speaking in truth, and you cannot brush them aside.
You can look at the facts and choose to agree or disagree with them, but the "cold, hard truth" is that there is alot of validity in what they are advocating.
That's all very well, but the problem is that somme invisible eternal being to exist is just soo much more unlikely that it does not matter at all. Ever thought of that? Probably not, not very convenient, is it? Also, Evolution does not include the Big Bang and such necessarily....and that animals and humans and such evolve is more than just likely, it has been observed even. The evidence is huge. You don't have to accept the big bang...but evolution (although a theory...a scientific one though) is more or less accurate.
The thing is when you say it's unlikely that the world was created by some random event that couldn't have happened because there was nothing, and nothing couldn't exist because nothing is defined as something and we didn't have something you are forgetting that the exact same apply's to god.
God can't exist because he or she or it would have been created or juts been there at some point in time, but that's quite impossible because there shouldn't have been time and there shouldn't have been anything at all really nor should there have been a chance in hell that something would create itself because it simply couldn't because it didn't exist and then at the same time we still have to consider that in order to create something you need something to create it in or with and those things couldn't exist either.
God and science answers are both uncomplete, there is more scientific evidence for god not existing then god existing though. On the other hand there is a surprisingly high amount of scientists that through their work start to believe in god.
George Gallup is (was?) a fundamentalist nutbag who once got caught falsifying statistics because he thought they showed Christianity in a decline. Such a nice, reliable source you managed to find there.
Seriously, if your entire argument is, "This guy said evolution couldn't be true!" then you've lost the argument before it even starts.
Originally posted by Gregory
George Gallup is (was?) a fundamentalist nutbag who once got caught falsifying statistics because he thought they showed Christianity in a decline. Such a nice, reliable source you managed to find there.Seriously, if your entire argument is, "This guy said evolution couldn't be true!" then you've lost the argument before it even starts.
Link?
Proof?
Seriously Greg, the argument is that it's a near certain impossiblity for all of life to have somehow just "happened" on its own, and when you consider the complexity of design in anything (be it the world, the galaxy, a human eyeball, whatever), it's very unlikely that it would be formed through the processes that evolutionists "claim" it would have.
Gallup was just a man, a noted statician, who was one of many to observe that statistically speaking, you're skating on very thin ice to say that we just "happened" out of thin air.
He isn't the point, and you know that.