Originally posted by batdude123
He doesn't have an "anti-Magneto" defense device. Just something that prevents his armor from being manipulated via magnetism. That's preventing one of about 50 ways for Magneto to kill Tony.Magneto wins this EASILY.
Originally posted by lando005
who now but in all the time he's faced magneto with everything he knows the guy can do he'ld be an idiot not to have something prepared in his armor just in case... we're talking about the guy who combed his furniture after the very first avengers meeting looking for a dna sample of thor for future use.. he's go something set aside
He only has the anti-magnetized suit. Nothing else.
He doesn't have anything prepared for a stroke, aneurysm, or getting his body ripped in half. And Tony can't get through Magneto's shields.
Magneto wins.
Originally posted by batdude123not saying he has something for everything just most things, we dont know what else he has stored away in that suit of his, i mean hell look how much stuff he was able to fit in spider-mans suit, and the zero point energy did work pretty well and that was meant to block more than just magneto's powers you just never know what he's got in his armor
He only has the anti-magnetized suit. Nothing else.He doesn't have anything prepared for a stroke, aneurysm, or getting his body ripped in half. And Tony can't get through Magneto's shields.
Magneto wins.
Originally posted by lando005
not saying he has something for everything just most things, we dont know what else he has stored away in that suit of his, i mean hell look how much stuff he was able to fit in spider-mans suit, and the zero point energy did work pretty well and that was meant to block more than just magneto's powers you just never know what he's got in his armor
Your point is based on speculation. That doesn't cut it I'm afraid. 馃槵
Magneto has TONS of ways to take down Tony. Tony only prepped for one of those ways. Sucks for him... especially here. Tony's never been a top tier character.
Magneto wins this.
Originally posted by batdude123
Your point is based on speculation. That doesn't cut it I'm afraid. 馃槵Magneto has TONS of ways to take down Tony. Tony only prepped for one of those ways. Sucks for him... especially here. Tony's never been a top tier character.
Magneto wins this.
Originally posted by lando005
yes it is speculation but it's justified nobody woulda thought he would have kept onto a strand of thor's hair for later use but hey we got clor dont we? it's silly to say that "he's only prepeard for one thing and one thing only" especially since he's always upgradeing we never really know the full extent of his armour's abilities saying magneto wins just cause is being a bit hastey for all we know he has a mutant power dampener built into with guys like tony you can never really be sure what their packin
Your speculation = shit
If you don't have feats or scans or issue numbers or hell... even actual TRUE statements to back up your argument, I'm no longer going to debate this with you.
As it stands, Magneto every single time.
Originally posted by batdude123what is it with you and your feats equals everything thinking? you honestly think we see everything guys like tony have in a fight? the guy upgrades every other month there's not spec list of his newer armours we have no way of knowing how they can be applied it's foolish to jump in this half ass and not know the full capabilites of the other oppnent and judge a winner feats are not the say and end all around here
Your speculation = shitIf you don't have feats or scans or issue numbers or hell... even actual TRUE statements to back up your argument, I'm no longer going to debate this with you.
As it stands, Magneto every single time.
Originally posted by lando005
what is it with you and your feats equals everything thinking? you honestly think we see everything guys like tony have in a fight? the guy upgrades every other month there's not spec list of his newer armours we have no way of knowing how they can be applied it's foolish to jump in this half ass and not know the full capabilites of the other oppnent and judge a winner feats are not the say and end all around here
No... you know what IS half ass? You basing your entire argument on something that cannot be proven. Your speculative view point is no good here.
I can speculate that Magneto can destroy a galaxy even though he's never done so before.... see how easy that was?
Magneto wins this 10/10. Your style of debating is flawed to say the least. 馃槵
Magneto can manipulate all these guys in one way or another.
Spiderman is wearing his iron suit which for one is electronic and two is made out of metal, and i don't think he has any anti-magnetic defenses.
Tony can be taken out with an EMP pulse as was said before, although Im not sure how long it would last. I do remember in New Avengers 20 when they went to Genosha to fight the Collectivist, Tony wrapped Magneto in an energy field and sent him into the sun. Although Mags wasn't really trying to attack him. Not sure if that could work.
Note: Ironman is extremely powerful, but he probably isn't the best hero to pit against Mangeto.
Wolverine can well he has adamantium graphed to his bones.
Magneto probably takes this 10/10.
Originally posted by batdude123
No... you know what IS half ass? You basing your entire argument on something that cannot be proven. Your speculative view point is no good here.I can speculate that Magneto can destroy a galaxy even though he's never done so before.... see how easy that was?
Magneto wins this 10/10. Your style of debating is flawed to say the least. 馃槵
i dont know every single little thing he can do with that armor he may or may not have something useful in it so until i know i wont make a call in magneto's favor
ya know what happend the last time someone jumped to conclusions without knowing the full details? close friends of mine ended up dying in iraq looking for wmd and we all know how that turned out
Originally posted by lando005
IF we knew the full abilites and applications for ironman's suit then i would agree with u but ther is no way you can make a clear decision without knowing the full capabilites of your opponent it's jsut haste to do so
He's shown just about all he'll ever show until he gets another upgrade in a suit. Until then, he gets rocked.... HARD.
Originally posted by lando005
i dont know every single little thing he can do with that armor he may or may not have something useful in it so until i know i wont make a call in magneto's favor
Magneto could simply shut it all off with an EMP. Simple and yet effective.
Or he could rip his body in half.
Or he could give him an aneurysm.
Or he could give him a stroke.
Or he could suck the life force out of him via the "bottle effect"
Or he could transport Tony to a different dimension via a wormhole.
etc. etc.
When it comes to power these two are just on different levels with Magneto being far ahead of Tony. For all intents and purposes, Magneto's electromagnetic powers are limitless, so he probably hasn't even demonstrated all he can do. 馃槵 So there goes your IM argument.
Originally posted by lando005
ya know what happend the last time someone jumped to conclusions without knowing the full details? close friends of mine ended up dying in iraq looking for wmd and we all know how that turned out
That sucks and I'm sorry.
Originally posted by batdude123
He's shown just about all he'll ever show until he gets another upgrade in a suit. Until then, he gets rocked.... HARD.Magneto could simply shut it all off with an EMP. Simple and yet effective.
Or he could rip his body in half.
Or he could give him an aneurysm.
Or he could give him a stroke.
Or he could suck the life force out of him via the "bottle effect"
Or he could transport Tony to a different dimension via a wormhole.
etc. etc.
When it comes to power these two are just on different levels with Magneto being far ahead of Tony. For all intents and purposes, Magneto's electromagnetic powers are limitless, so he probably hasn't even demonstrated all he can do. 馃槵 So there goes your IM argument.
That sucks and I'm sorry.
that's all i'm saying unless i'm 100% sure for what someone can do i'll always have that bit of doubt in the back of my head saying that they are more dangerouse than they appear guys like tony have a trend of always having an ace in the hole that's something i'm not willing to overlook
thanks for ur simpathy
Originally posted by batdude123Magneto could simply shut it all off with an EMP. Simple and yet effective.
Or he could rip his body in half.
Or he could give him an aneurysm.
Or he could give him a stroke.
Or he could suck the life force out of him via the "bottle effect"
Or he could transport Tony to a different dimension via a wormhole.
etc. etc.
Shutting Iron Man down with EMP is another form of PIS
EMP should NOT work on Iron Man at all, especially now. It just underminds Tony's character.
Originally posted by lando005
look for the most part i agree with you the only thing is since we dont have a spec list for tony's armor that means ther's a chance that there is some kind of device or application he could use against magneto that's all i'm saying i would be a lot more comfty voting for mags if i knew of everything im's armor could dothat's all i'm saying unless i'm 100% sure for what someone can do i'll always have that bit of doubt in the back of my head saying that they are more dangerouse than they appear guys like tony have a trend of always having an ace in the hole that's something i'm not willing to overlook
thanks for ur simpathy
I understand that you're not sure of what all Tony is capable of.
I have a pretty good idea of what he is capable of.... he ain't doing shit to Mags.