Are Jesus and Muhammad (i.e. Mohammed) Alike?

Started by Shakyamunison19 pages
Originally posted by lord xyz
S can someone with blind faith, but not as easy.

We have come to agreement.

It seems so. Good to know that atleast one debate on this forum ends in both parties being on the same side.

Originally posted by lord xyz
It seems so. Good to know that atleast one debate on this forum ends in both parties being on the same side.

No, I just got tired of your rantings. 😆 jk

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, I just got tired of your rantings. 😆 jk
*slits wrist*

Originally posted by lord xyz
*slits wrist*

Remember to cut the inside of the wrist this time. 😛 😂

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Remember to cut the inside of the wrist this time. 😛 😂
You do know I meant your wrist right?

Originally posted by lord xyz
You do know I meant your wrist right?

😱 Get that knife away from me. 😱

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😱 Get that knife away from me. 😱
Never.

Are God (i.e. YHWH) and Allah one and the same?

No. There are many false gods but only one, true God: the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The living God who is the Father of Jesus Christ. This is the true God.

The Christian God and Allah cannot be one and the same because in the Qur'an it is recorded that Allah denies having a son. But the Bible states in a multitude of places that God does have a Son. Jesus even stated that God is His Father. Let's take a look at the Qur'an. The Qur'an is organized into "Surahs" instead of by chapter and verse like the Bible.

Read:

Surah 4:171 O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.

Surah 6:101 The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things ?

Surah 18:4,5 And to warn those who say: Allah hath chosen a son, (A thing) whereof they have no knowledge, nor (had) their fathers, Dreadful is the word that cometh out of their mouths. They speak naught but a lie.

Those are very damaging discrepancies and contradictions. Based on the information contained in the Bible and in the Qur'an, God (i.e. YHWH, the God of the Bible) is the true God, but Allah is "a" false god. There are many false gods and Allah is just one of the many gods who are false. The true God does have a Son and His Name is a Name that is above every name. That Name is Jesus!

More proof from the Qur'an that the God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same. God has a Son (Jesus the Christ), but Allah denies having a son.

Surah 23:91 Allah hath not chosen any son, nor is there any god along with Him; else would each god have assuredly championed that which he created, and some of them would assuredly have overcome others. Glorified be Allah above all that they allege.

This is not an issue of semantics, hair-splitting, or being technical. I have quoted Allah's own words where he himself states (in his Qu'ran in a number of places) that he does not have a son.

On the contrary, the Bible (the Word of the true God) states in the Old Testament and New Testament in many places throughout Scripture that God does indeed have a Son.

The God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same. Christ Jesus is never mentioned as the Son of Allah because Allah is not God. Jesus Christ is only called or refrerred to as a prophet in the Qu'ran. But in the Bible Jesus is called the Son of God. In addition, God Almighty calls Jesus His beloved Son. The God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same.

Allah states in no uncertain terms that he does not have a son. But the God of the Bible says that Jesus is His beloved Son. Is Allah confused? No, Allah is not confused. Allah is correct, he does not have a son. Allah denies having a son because the God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same. YHWH (i.e. the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) and Allah are not one and the same. The God of the Bible is the true God and His Son's Name is Jesus (Who is the Christ).

Furthermore, Allah is the mood god, he has an idol that represents him (this is documented, historical fact). But the God of the Bible, YHWH (i.e. the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob), does not have (nor has He ever had) any kind of idol to represent Him, associated with Him, nor in connection with Him--whatsoever. (This too is documented, historical fact). All the other gods of the earth have had some type of idol (i.e. a literal, physical statue or other manufactured work of their likeness and image that has been carved, fashioned, formed, or created to stand for them). So why hasn't the God of the Bible ever had an idol to represent Him? The answer is simple: the God of the Bible has never been an idol, is not now an idol, and will never be an idol. Unfortunately, Allah and those who represent him can never say that. The God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same.

Former Muslims Testify About Islam

http://www.johnankerberg.org/TV/now_playing_IPR11.htm

Two formerly devout Muslims let the cat out of the bag and told their father that God (YHWH) and Allah are not one and the same. These brothers were given an ultimatum by their father to either choose him or to choose Jesus Christ. These brothers risked being disowned by their father. Find out what evidence led them to their decision to trust Jesus the Christ while they were in college. These brothers currently hold PhDs and are seminary professors.

I love how Islam concedes that Jesus was immaculately conceived from Mary. It's just beautiful.

However, Muhammad is very different from Jesus, their lifestyles show this.

Too bad we can't get anything but crap.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I love how Islam concedes that Jesus was immaculately conceived from Mary. It's just beautiful.

However, Muhammad is very different from Jesus, their lifestyles show this.

Indeed.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I love how Islam concedes that Jesus was immaculately conceived from Mary. It's just beautiful.

However, Muhammad is very different from Jesus, their lifestyles show this.

Oh yeah? Both traveled thorugh the desrt, both lead wars, both preached their blessings, apart from the whole fictitious story of Jesus being the son of God they ARE alike.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Oh yeah? Both traveled thorugh the desrt, both lead wars, both preached their blessings, apart from the whole fictitious story of Jesus being the son of God they ARE alike.

Jesus Christ has never led a war. Muhammed has. In fact, Jesus has never taken anyone's life. According to the Bible Jesus raised people from the dead on a number of occasions, but He never, ever took anyone's life--as Muhammed has many times.

The Book of Revelation describes a future event that Jesus will spearhead.

Oh, Jesus is the Son of God.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Oh yeah? Both traveled thorugh the desrt, both lead wars, both preached their blessings, apart from the whole fictitious story of Jesus being the son of God they ARE alike.

Are Jesus and Muhammed alike? Find out here:

http://www.carm.org/islam/Jesus_Muhammad.htm

Originally posted by Fishy
I really don't see your point? Should we compare Jesus to other biblical prophets now? Didn't Jesus his own ancestor King David kill and murder people?

Besides Jesus is a prophet in the Quran so every muslim already recognizes the greatness of Jesus, they just don't think he's the son of god and he died in a different way and their believes are actually far more logical...

Besides some of those reasons are bullshit, Jesus did sin he did get angry... Jesus changed the word of god himself, and plenty of other things people with more time and or biblical knowledge could say in a few seconds...

According to the Bible, Jesus never sinned.

2 Corinthians 5:21
For He made Him Who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

1 Peter 2:22
“ Who committed no sin,
Nor was deceit found in His mouth”;

Hebrews 4:15
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin .

John 8:46
Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me?

The Bible says that in the mouth of two or three witnesses let every word be established. I have provided more than the minimum.

Jesus never molested a 9 year old girl like Muhammed has either...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

The Bible says that in the mouth of two or three witnesses let every word be established. I have provided more than the minimum. [/B]

What if yon threesome twas retarded? Should I giveth mine ear to their words?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

Are God (i.e. YHWH) and Allah one and the same?

No. There are many false gods but only one, true God: the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The living God who is the Father of Jesus Christ. This is the true God.

The Christian God and Allah cannot be one and the same because in the Qur'an it is recorded that Allah denies having a son. But the Bible states in a multitude of places that God does have a Son. Jesus even stated that God is His Father. Let's take a look at the Qur'an. The Qur'an is organized into "Surahs" instead of by chapter and verse like the Bible.

Read:

[b]Surah 4:171 O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.

Surah 6:101 The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things ?

Surah 18:4,5 And to warn those who say: Allah hath chosen a son, (A thing) whereof they have no knowledge, nor (had) their fathers, Dreadful is the word that cometh out of their mouths. They speak naught but a lie.

Those are very damaging discrepancies and contradictions. Based on the information contained in the Bible and in the Qur'an, God (i.e. YHWH, the God of the Bible) is the true God, but Allah is "a" false god. There are many false gods and Allah is just one of the many gods who are false. The true God does have a Son and His Name is a Name that is above every name. That Name is Jesus!

More proof from the Qur'an that the God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same. God has a Son (Jesus the Christ), but Allah denies having a son.

Surah 23:91 Allah hath not chosen any son, nor is there any god along with Him; else would each god have assuredly championed that which he created, and some of them would assuredly have overcome others. Glorified be Allah above all that they allege.

This is not an issue of semantics, hair-splitting, or being technical. I have quoted Allah's own words where he himself states (in his Qu'ran in a number of places) that he does not have a son.

On the contrary, the Bible (the Word of the true God) states in the Old Testament and New Testament in many places throughout Scripture that God does indeed have a Son.

The God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same. Christ Jesus is never mentioned as the Son of Allah because Allah is not God. Jesus Christ is only called or refrerred to as a prophet in the Qu'ran. But in the Bible Jesus is called the Son of God. In addition, God Almighty calls Jesus His beloved Son. The God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same.

Allah states in no uncertain terms that he does not have a son. But the God of the Bible says that Jesus is His beloved Son. Is Allah confused? No, Allah is not confused. Allah is correct, he does not have a son. Allah denies having a son because the God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same. YHWH (i.e. the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) and Allah are not one and the same. The God of the Bible is the true God and His Son's Name is Jesus (Who is the Christ).

Furthermore, Allah is the mood god, he has an idol that represents him (this is documented, historical fact). But the God of the Bible, YHWH (i.e. the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob), does not have (nor has He ever had) any kind of idol to represent Him, associated with Him, nor in connection with Him--whatsoever. (This too is documented, historical fact). All the other gods of the earth have had some type of idol (i.e. a literal, physical statue or other manufactured work of their likeness and image that has been carved, fashioned, formed, or created to stand for them). So why hasn't the God of the Bible ever had an idol to represent Him? The answer is simple: the God of the Bible has never been an idol, is not now an idol, and will never be an idol. Unfortunately, Allah and those who represent him can never say that. The God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same.

Former Muslims Testify About Islam

http://www.johnankerberg.org/TV/now_playing_IPR11.htm

Two formerly devout Muslims let the cat out of the bag and told their father that God (YHWH) and Allah are not one and the same. These brothers were given an ultimatum by their father to either choose him or to choose Jesus Christ. These brothers risked being disowned by their father. Find out what evidence led them to their decision to trust Jesus the Christ while they were in college. These brothers currently hold PhDs and are seminary professors. [/B]

You say the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, IE the God of Jews, so not only do you follow a Jewish God, but, the Muslim God also derived from the concept of the very same God. So did the Sihk God. Although they have different names and ideas of God, it is still the same God I guess it goers to prove that we know absloutely nothing about it huh.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You say the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, IE the God of Jews, so not only do you follow a Jewish God, but, the Muslim God also derived from the concept of the very same God. So did the Sihk God. Although they have different names and ideas of God, it is still the same God I guess it goers to prove that we know absloutely nothing about it huh.

Jewish/Christian GOD is different from Mulism between night and day, Muslim concept contadicts the Jewish/Christian GOD in the holy bible.