Notice they never once mention Superman's speed feats, where Hulk doesn't even come close in terms of showings.
Or the fact that he has ranged attacks, which could decimate the Hulk while Kal wouldn't be getting touched.
Partial information is a dangerous thing. ...and it's ony by ignoring the entirety of the evidence that anyone could make a legitimate argument for the Hulk.
...still, funny stuff. I can see that being half the fanboys on this forum in about 15 years. 😂
Originally posted by DigiMark007that wasnt what they were getting at they were talking about streght only
Notice they never once mention Superman's speed feats, where Hulk doesn't even come close in terms of showings.Or the fact that he has ranged attacks, which could decimate the Hulk while Kal wouldn't be getting touched.
Partial information is a dangerous thing. ...and it's ony by ignoring the entirety of the evidence that anyone could make a legitimate argument for the Hulk.
...still, funny stuff. I can see that being half the fanboys on this forum in about 15 years. 😂
pre-crisis superman's strength and powers has fluctuated greatly over the years (especially between golden age and silver age).
At times superman strength shown to be so great that one time (golden age) he was dragging about a dozen planets with a chain faster than light speed to another star system for relocation. Other writers had him much weaker (especially in silver age). Thus Pre-crisis isn't consistent. To say that such and such happened to pre-crisis superman is just a low showing. Remember on this forum it is known that low showings sometimes contradict with high ones. So that is why forum rules say to use the best of a character's ability. This avoids any contradiction.
Also Stan Lee himself in an interview said himself that he created Thor to be stronger than the Hulk since he was a god and hulk was not. He didn't like the fact that Hulk was shown to overpower Thor on occassions (such as in the new avengers movie).
With that said, one cannot go by low showings to prove something but by using the best of a character's abilities. Usually fights are a popularity contest. That means we would have a lot of jobbing.
If two very strong character's are to face head up then most likely the one who is more popular (the bigger cash cow) will win.
Everyone knows truly that gladiator would utterly destroy 616 colossus.
His strength, speed, durability, and different other powers are many times greater than colossus.
Yet colossus went toe to toe with him to the end. This was written out of popularity and is straight SmvFL.
what wrong with this ?
Everyone knows that The Hulk is stronger than Superman (even pre-crisis); all the hulk needs to do is getting angrier and stronger than his opponent.
BTW:He was the gravage hulk, and nothing can change the fact that he smashed and proved to be stronger than Pre Crisis Superman.
The hulk beat foes more powerful than the kryptonian as Onslaught(in the slugfest i mean), The Galaxy Master, Thor (most times), Gladiator...
at normal strenght hulk can be beaten but if really enraged no one can take him down
Peter David said the hulk can beat Mangog
i asked him on alvaro's comic book
"Sure. Why not."
PAD
Originally posted by h1a8
pre-crisis superman's strength and powers has fluctuated greatly over the years (especially between golden age and silver age).
At times superman strength shown to be so great that one time (golden age) he was dragging about a dozen planets with a chain faster than light speed to another star system for relocation. Other writers had him much weaker (especially in silver age). Thus Pre-crisis isn't consistent. To say that such and such happened to pre-crisis superman is just a low showing. Remember on this forum it is known that low showings sometimes contradict with high ones. So that is why forum rules say to use the best of a character's ability. This avoids any contradiction.Also Stan Lee himself in an interview said himself that he created Thor to be stronger than the Hulk since he was a god and hulk was not. He didn't like the fact that Hulk was shown to overpower Thor on occassions (such as in the new avengers movie).
With that said, one cannot go by low showings to prove something but by using the best of a character's abilities. Usually fights are a popularity contest. That means we would have a lot of jobbing.
If two very strong character's are to face head up then most likely the one who is more popular (the bigger cash cow) will win.Everyone knows truly that gladiator would utterly destroy 616 colossus.
His strength, speed, durability, and different other powers are many times greater than colossus.
Yet colossus went toe to toe with him to the end. This was written out of popularity and is straight SmvFL.
good post, but don't forget the hulk beat thor in annual 2001 (he beat him down with 3 only blows, and could have killed him if he only wanted); and he beat him again in Thor# 385 while Thor never beat the hulk
Originally posted by DevilGoblinHULK IZ THE GERATESTEST EVAR!!!
what wrong with this ?Everyone knows that The Hulk is stronger than Superman (even pre-crisis); all the hulk needs to do is getting angrier and stronger than his opponent.
BTW:He was the gravage hulk, and nothing can change the fact that he smashed and proved to be stronger than Pre Crisis Superman.
The hulk beat foes more powerful than the kryptonian as Onslaught(in the slugfest i mean), The Galaxy Master, Thor (most times), Gladiator...
at normal strenght hulk can be beaten but if really enraged no one can take him down
Peter David said the hulk can beat Mangog
i asked him on alvaro's comic book
"Sure. Why not."
PAD
Originally posted by h1a8
pre-crisis superman's strength and powers has fluctuated greatly over the years (especially between golden age and silver age).
At times superman strength shown to be so great that one time (golden age) he was dragging about a dozen planets with a chain faster than light speed to another star system for relocation. Other writers had him much weaker (especially in silver age). Thus Pre-crisis isn't consistent. To say that such and such happened to pre-crisis superman is just a low showing. Remember on this forum it is known that low showings sometimes contradict with high ones. So that is why forum rules say to use the best of a character's ability. This avoids any contradiction.
The Golden Age Superman and the Silver Age Superman are two separate people.
Golden Age= Kal-L
Silver Age= Kal-El
When people talk about Pre-Crisis Superman they’re usually referring to the Silver Age version. The Silver Age Superman is the Superman that was ridiculously powerful, it was him as Superboy that was moving an entire Solar System worth of planets, not the Kal-L. Kal-L used to struggle with skyscrapers while Kal-El even as a boy could move planets without any difficulty.