Scarlet Witch vs Mad Jim Jaspers

Yes I'm full aware of that.

Except this time we know that if Maj Jim Jaspers hadn't been stopped by Fury then it would have happened and there was apparently nothing stopping him until he had warped the entire omniverse, what we normally draw forward is speculation rarely we are given the concrete fact that it will happen if a certain character (plot device) doesn't succeed.

And even then Jaime was capable of manipulating the Chaos Wave, was it because of the quantum strings probably, could Jaspers do the same? possibly.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Yes I'm full aware of that.

Except this time we know that if Maj Jim Jaspers hadn't been stopped by Fury then it would have happened and there was apparently nothing stopping him until he had warped the entire omniverse, what we normally draw forward is speculation rarely we are given the concrete fact that it will happen if a certain character (plot device) doesn't succeed.

Unless it happens, it didn't happen.

Actually it did, until that future was cancelled, so in some way it happened, Galactus devouring a universe in Black Celestials and then later everything didn't happened, would it have yes, this actually happened, but was changed.

I believe it was before Marvel began making all there diverting timelines.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Actually it did, until that future was cancelled, so in some way it happened, Galactus devouring a universe in Black Celestials and then later everything didn't happened, would it have yes, this actually happened, but was changed.

I believe it was before Marvel began making all there diverting timelines.

The point is that it happened in a future that was cancelled, which mean it happened, hence on panel Mad Jim Jaspers was showed to at full potential having warped the entire marvel omniverse which was the point.

And again this was before the divergent timelines came into play I believe.

MJJ wins.

Jamie Braddock brought Jaspers back, according to a later retcon. It initially appeared to be Wanda, but was later revealed to be Jamie.

If this is Die by the Sword Jaspers, he's screwed.

wanda's chaos wave was affecting both jamie braddock and jim jaspers, however, the opposite wasnt true because neither jamie or jaspers fought back in house of M or showed the capability or will to stand upto wanda. scarlet witch for the win.

Both MJJ and Jamie can control their power, Wanda can't fully.

MJJ can become more powerful than both if left unchecked.

no context for the above claim.

uhh, which part?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
wanda's chaos wave was affecting both jamie braddock and jim jaspers, however, the opposite wasnt true because neither jamie or jaspers fought back in house of M or showed the capability or will to stand upto wanda. scarlet witch for the win.

Mad Jim Jaspers was dead, and Jamie decided to let Wanda initiate the Chaos wave, by destroying the CN that probably could have stopped Wanda by destroying the entire Universe she was in. He also manipulated the Chaos wave to recreate MJJ and Fury as one.

I think SW would own MJJ and JB combined.

Scarlet Witch still.

Even though she did not have full control over her powers, the powers she wielded in HoM were clearly above MJJ and JB's.

If she was given more time to hone those powers, she would be unstoppable.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
If she was given more time to hone those powers, she would be unstoppable.

No one stopped her anyway. But if she would continue like that, I think Living Tribunal himself would need to come to stop her.
He is the only one who could do it for sure.

HOM Wanda

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't MJJ a threat more so because his warps were careless and causing reality around him to break down? In the end all it took was electricity to the brain to stop him after he was taken to the void/non-space between realms, the chaos wave which is a result of Wandas power was tearing through the void/non-space between realms with no problems, until Meggan that is. Now I don't believe that Wanda had any conscious control or even sustained the wave, but it was created due to her power and the space between realms did not quell it, her power stemming from the ability to manipulate probabilities would suggest that she does not need matter to warp reality only possibilities which are endless.

Jaspers all the way.