Shaman vs. Dr.Doom

Plenty of people debate for Doom outside of him being Doom. And really, Doom doesn't get it any worse than Batman, Superman, Hulk, or any other popular character.

I can't really contribute all that much to the thread as I'm unfamiliar with Shaman as a whole, though,

I can pull up dozen of threads with Doom that literally go how I describe.

I actually find the characters you mention have more "debates" associated with them than Doom.

I could pull up as many threads where strong arguments are made for Doom outside of him being Doom as well (ie. citing feats and evidence and the like). KMC tends to polarize various characters, though, so I don't blame you for feeling the way you do. But in my honest opinion, it literally happens to just about every character to some degree, especially if they're "hot" at the moment.

I've seen just as many examples of "Doom wins" as I have the same for Superman, Batman, Mr. Fantastic, Hulk, Thor, Flash, Wolverine, Sentry, etc. Of course, I'm guilty of the Doom stuff time to time, but when I feel like debating him, I back my stance up outside of his aura. 😛

Last serious thread I saw for Doom was the Zatanna one and that at time was guilty of my description. I don't know why but out of the other characters you listed I generally feel Doom is one of the worst for that next to Hercules (which usually involves him ultimately seducing the character). I like the character and as a villian he is one of the elite top-tier but I don't agree with how he is guaged here.
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On-topic in a straight up mystical fight I still got to give it to Shaman, but with prep.... Doom wins. As shown you give him time he can make your power his (he did some of that with tech, but now he is amalgamating them).

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Originally posted by -K-M-
Great, but this isn't Doom with the Beyonder's power or the Life-Force and neither he did those based on just magic which the thread is about (also there is even discussion Beyonder even let him take his power)

This thread was made in 2006 but today Doom is by far the worst character to debate on this board. As no one actually debates with him they just say Doom or "try" to make a wity remark involving Doom and that is it.

its ur thread and u can say who wins like all of us who make em

Originally posted by guy222
its ur thread and u can say who wins like all of us who make em

Sure, but when I ask for reasons I get nothing other then "Doom" and scenes that really don't relate to the specifications of the thread, which kind of make them redundant.

This is a thread I made in 2006, I don't really care about it or it would have been me that bumped it.... but it wasn't

wasn't my intention when i bumped it

have a good evening

Doom wins.