Kyle Rayner Vs Silver Surfer

Started by nathan summers21 pages
Originally posted by jrodslam
That sure wasnt the case when Surfer fought Kyle. He drowned him in green energy.

And Wolverine beat Lobo in those match-ups....what's your point?

Originally posted by nathan summers
And Wolverine beat Lobo in those match-ups....what's your point?

Different book. And one fight was realistic and the other was...well ill just say Wolverine was in it.

I believe in Marvel vs. DC, Rayner was K.Oed by Surfer.

And i believe youre referring to the book that was fan voted. Im referring to Crossover Classics 4.

In the Marvel vs DC comics, I also recall prior to their fight, Kyle amped up Surfer with the energy of OA to keep it away from Thanos and Darkseid.

Originally posted by jrodslam
And i believe youre referring to the book that was fan voted. Im referring to Crossover Classics 4.

yup,with galactus and darkseid....

Originally posted by Juntai
In the Marvel vs DC comics, I also recall prior to their fight, Kyle amped up Surfer with the energy of OA to keep it away from Thanos and Darkseid.

Huh? This is the first time im hearing this.

I also have Silver Surfer vs Superman comic.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Huh? This is the first time im hearing this.
It was the Surfer/GL crossover that led into DC vs Marvel.

http://members.tripod.com/~Lantern_light/misc5.htm

"In the process, Kyle manages to stop the Surfer with a massive 'wave' of green energy, and takes the opportunity to convince him that Parallax is evil, and that Thanos tricked him into giving him Oa's energy. The Surfer is too weak to make much difference, so he convinces Kyle to stop the two titans from either destroying the universe or re-creating it by draining off their energy. Thanos attacks Parallax as the Surfer drives the two opponents apart, claiming that ultimate power is now his, but Kyle states that it's his, because the ring is his, and that, if it can destroy two universe, it can save them as well. He manages to siphon off the energy from the two villains, but is unable to contain it, so he is forced to channel it into the Silver Surfer, who, amid the pain, acknowledges that redemption can only be assured by ensuring the future rather than rewriting the past. As he recovers, the Surfer muses on the irony; he sought a kindred spirit in Parallax, but has for more in common with Kyle Rayner, as both are true heroes, to which Kyle says thanks. Thanos and Parallax fall into a dimensional tunnel and Surfer follows Thanos into the Marvel Universe, but Parallax's final destination is unknown.

At the end, Kyle is thinking about how working with the Surfer was pretty cool, and how he has managed to maybe come out of the fight a better hero, but hopes that they never meet again nevertheless. The final panel shows a glowing cardboard box taped together with duct tape, a key image in the DC vs. Marvel series, in which the Silver Surfer and Green Lantern meet up again."

Originally posted by Juntai
It was the Surfer/GL crossover that led into DC vs Marvel.

http://members.tripod.com/~Lantern_light/misc5.htm

"In the process, Kyle manages to stop the Surfer with a massive 'wave' of green energy, and takes the opportunity to convince him that Parallax is evil, and that Thanos tricked him into giving him Oa's energy. The Surfer is too weak to make much difference, so he convinces Kyle to stop the two titans from either destroying the universe or re-creating it by draining off their energy. Thanos attacks Parallax as the Surfer drives the two opponents apart, claiming that ultimate power is now his, but Kyle states that it's his, because the ring is his, and that, if it can destroy two universe, it can save them as well. He manages to siphon off the energy from the two villains, but is unable to contain it, so he is forced to channel it into the Silver Surfer, who, amid the pain, acknowledges that redemption can only be assured by ensuring the future rather than rewriting the past. As he recovers, the Surfer muses on the irony; he sought a kindred spirit in Parallax, but has for more in common with Kyle Rayner, as both are true heroes, to which Kyle says thanks. Thanos and Parallax fall into a dimensional tunnel and Surfer follows Thanos into the Marvel Universe, but Parallax's final destination is unknown.

At the end, Kyle is thinking about how working with the Surfer was pretty cool, and how he has managed to maybe come out of the fight a better hero, but hopes that they never meet again nevertheless. The final panel shows a glowing cardboard box taped together with duct tape, a key image in the DC vs. Marvel series, in which the Silver Surfer and Green Lantern meet up again."

That sounds exactly like what happened in crossover classics 4. I have that. I was talking about Kyle giving Surfer energy prior to their fight. I didnt know that happened in DC vs Marvel.

Marvel Vs DC fight was pretty weak. All the two did was collide into each other and Kyle ended up KO'd while Surfer was still standing.

Great fight. 😕

Kyle takes this. A GL can do alot more with that ring, then Surfer can with his powers (which is mostly just using energy blasts).

Originally posted by The Ion
Marvel Vs DC fight was pretty weak. All the two did was collide into each other and Kyle ended up KO'd while Surfer was still standing.

Great fight. 😕

Well yeah, that's like Guy Gardner running into ION. Surfer was amped with the OA battery. lol.

The Silver Surfer should take a majority in this fight. The GLs can do a great deal, but even Kyle's versatility isn't on Surfer's level. In addition, the Surfer is physically superior in body and mind. His speed, reflexes, and durability are overwhelmingly higher. He really doesn't need to drain the Oan energy for the win here. He needs only to penetrate the GLs' protective field, then KO them physically, with a blast, or telepathically.

This fight is about power and durability. A Green Lantern while extremely formidable still has human vulnerabilities, weaknesses and requires recharge time. They're only as powerful as their will. As I see it the Surfer's body can take ten times more damage than Rayner. The only Lantern that I'd give any chance of beating Radd is Hal Jordan. He is THE Green Lantern. Not a wannabe knock off like Rayner.

Originally posted by nathan summers
This fight is about power and durability. A Green Lantern while extremely formidable still has human vulnerabilities, weaknesses and requires recharge time. They're only as powerful as their will. As I see it the Surfer's body can take ten times more damage than Rayner. The only Lantern that I'd give any chance of beating Radd is Hal Jordan. He is THE Green Lantern. Not a wannabe knock off like Rayner.

Hey Kyle Rayner is cool!!!

Right? 🙁

Yeah, sure. He's as cool as the Daredevil & Elektra movies combined. ( Sarcasm *hint, hint*)

Originally posted by nathan summers
As I see it the Surfer's body can take ten times more damage than Rayner.
You jest, right? Surfer has survived black holes, falls from orbit, unshielded hits from Gladiator, Thanos, Galactus, and Odin. His durability is a good bit more than 10x Kyle's.

Here's a good site for those wanting to brush up on Surfer's feats. http://www.geocities.com/bruno_nojunk/

I was making a point that his durability was well over any Green Lantern. I wasn't attempting to be accurate.

I dont get it when ppl say Surfer is more versatile than a GL. How so? Also in the durability department Gl's are highly durable. Secondly, GL's strength comes from their will. That is unlimited power with a thought. Surfer has admitted that even his powers have limits. A GL's limit is only his imagination. That alone would put a GL over Surfer in terms of power in a way. Plus Kyle doesnt need to recharge after 24 hours like the others.

And yea Jose123, Kyle is cool. But i think Guy is cooler 😎