Will's Promise

Originally posted by shannstar79
Last night I was watching DMC when Will promises that he will not rest until this blade(the knife that his father gave him) peirces the heart of Davy Jones/ he didnt say who would be doing the pericing (holding the kife)
do you think this is sort of forshadowing, or what I mean is unless we have a conformatiuon that Will does in fact stabs the heart, then this promise he made is usless, anyone could stab the heart according to that quote: who else would find it necessary to stab the heart, Will is the only one who has made that promise. anyway what do you guys think. I am just so overwhelmed with facts, spoilers, rumors, help me out anyone, LovleyOne, havent seen you on here all day so far 🙁

I dont think so... Norrington is one of the characters of POTC but not one of the main (dont shoot me sailorleo) . The destiny is in Will, maybe he will use norringtosn sword..?? Though I doubt, bc his dad gave him a knife to begin with for a purpose.

Originally posted by mss_mira
ok but didnt the writers say that norrington's sword played a role in the whole destiny thing, i was under the impression that his would be the one to stabe the heart. am i wrong?

cuz I noticed something there.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
So who said whoever stabs the heart takes Davy's place? Unless it says that in the movie, that's not really dependable information. We've seen how vague T&T are.

I'm not basing what I say on T&T's "info"

i have been online in here for 2 hours..and forgot about it lol

ok back to topic sorry.

Well, im not sure about that info in norries sword. But somehow i dont believe it has nothing to do with it.

Ted has said that Norrington's sword has a bit of destiny...the so-called 'Turner Sword'...the one made by Will for Norrington's promotion. It has a bit of destiny to it.

Which makes sense, since it had quite a bit of air time in CotBP for a sword....and Beckett had it in DMC.

My thoughts are that one of three things will happen with the sword:

1. Norrington (or someone) uses it to stab Davy Jones' heart.

2. Norrington uses it to kill Beckett and/or Mercer, thus avenging Gov. Swann's death.

3. When Elizabeth steals it from him and tries to stab it with him, the piercing of this 'blade of honor' will remind him of who he is and what he believes in.

Those are in order of my preferences, and the last two are based solely on the leaked script, which has probably changed a lot since I read it. 😄 A gal can always hope, though. 😎

As for Will, I am not sure he is going to stab the heart of DJ. It seems too easy, too simple and so obvious...not only that, but just how the writers have lined up nearly every main character (and Norrington is a main character) to stab the heart makes it that much less likely.

Sorry, LovelyOne. I know you have a script, but I don't know much about it, when you received it or who you received it from, so therefore, I find it suspicious and unlikely.

This is not to say that YOU are being dishonest; I'm just not sure I trust your source. For all we know, what you have read has been revised a dozen times over and isn't even remotely similar to what you have. 🙂

Gosh how hard is it to understand?

Dear Will is going to stab the heart of DJ (HINTS IN DMC). He is going to become immortal, become a fish face, and be the Capt. of the Flying Alligator Machine. I though that line from the blooper reel was hilarious. I Love my Johnny 🙂

Originally posted by Surreal_44
Ted has said that Norrington's sword has a bit of destiny...the so-called 'Turner Sword'...the one made by Will for Norrington's promotion. It has a bit of destiny to it.

Which makes sense, since it had quite a bit of air time in CotBP for a sword....and Beckett had it in DMC.

My thoughts are that one of three things will happen with the sword:

1. Norrington (or someone) uses it to stab Davy Jones' heart.

2. Norrington uses it to kill Beckett and/or Mercer, thus avenging Gov. Swann's death.

3. When Elizabeth steals it from him and tries to stab it with him, the piercing of this 'blade of honor' will remind him of who he is and what he believes in.

Those are in order of my preferences, and the last two are based solely on the leaked script, which has probably changed a lot since I read it. 😄 A gal can always hope, though. 😎

As for Will, I am not sure he is going to stab the heart of DJ. It seems too easy, too simple and so obvious...not only that, but just how the writers have lined up nearly every main character (and Norrington is a main character) to stab the heart makes it that much less likely.

Sorry, LovelyOne. I know you have a script, but I don't know much about it, when you received it or who you received it from, so therefore, I find it suspicious and unlikely.

This is not to say that YOU are being dishonest; I'm just not sure I trust your source. For all we know, what you have read has been revised a dozen times over and isn't even remotely similar to what you have. 🙂

Actually, I agree in that I think it is Norrington who takes his revenge against Beckett. He essentially makes Elizabeth a promise in the leaked script, and if he had not met his tragic demise after releasing her, he would have followed through. So, hopefully since we know his character redeems himself, this will be it's destiny.

Though, have you looked at the DMC game on the official site recently. It says that Elizabeth's sword has a bit of a history of it's own. It says that it once killed a man, or perhaps it was the owner that pierced the man's heart. Or something like that, it's worded better on the site.

Originally posted by Swann&Sparrow
That's very interesting...

You know, when that scene came up, I was so happy that Will would finaly get a moment of redemption {And that Orlando Bloom could finally have a moment of GOOD ACTING} but I was hugely dissapointed when the scene was done.

I know alot of people here are Orlando fans, sorry for this {please don't beat me up}.

I hate Orlando, I don't really like his acting {Though I loved him in ElizabethTown} or his way of speach or anything about him. He doesn't even look good in my perspective.

And when Will was taking to his father, all I heard was a breathy, girly voice. SERIOUSLY, he's so girl-sounding-like. And that didn't help my view of the Unuich.

Now I just think he was never a 'Man' in the first place, honestly, was he BORN a girl?

Lol, sorry for hating Orly, sorry for hating Will. I just had to say that. Sorry.

Ok I have to post something on this. Are you 12 years old? WE GET IT ALREADY!!!!! Jesus dont you know how to shut up about not liking Will or Orlando? We understood it the first time you said it. You dont need to beat it into our heads in each thread!. I havent been replying to any posts lately because they ALL turn out the same way. I hate Orlando/Will from you or J/E from everyone else. Can anyone here start an intelligent thread without these two things saturating them?!?

Originally posted by Pirates life fo
Ok I have to post something on this. Are you 12 years old? WE GET IT ALREADY!!!!! Jesus dont you know how to shut up about not liking Will or Orlando? We understood it the first time you said it. You dont need to beat it into our heads in each thread!. I havent been replying to any posts lately because they ALL turn out the same way. I hate Orlando/Will from you or J/E from everyone else. Can anyone here start an intelligent thread without these two things saturating them?!?

Ok, point taken. You might have presented it in a way that's a little more constructive or at least more kindly to the person stating her opinion. 🙂

Not every one here bashes or hates Will; many people have written in more than one thread how much they love the character and or Orlando. Also, not every topic if staturated with J/E, just most of them. That's what the bulk of the people here find interesting. Or at least the bulk of the people who post on a regular basis. There's a lot to be said on that topic because it was left so unresolved despite what people on both sides of the camp believe.

With that said and out of the way, why don't you start an intelligent topic of discussion? Unfortunately, a lot of the topics do involve J/E because that was a lot of DMC. Everything intertwines with one another. But, I promise that if you start said topic that I'll refrain from mentioning it so long as it doesn't apply. Agreed?

Originally posted by Swann&Sparrow
That's very interesting...

You know, when that scene came up, I was so happy that Will would finaly get a moment of redemption {And that Orlando Bloom could finally have a moment of GOOD ACTING} but I was hugely dissapointed when the scene was done.

I know alot of people here are Orlando fans, sorry for this {please don't beat me up}.

I hate Orlando, I don't really like his acting {Though I loved him in ElizabethTown} or his way of speach or anything about him. He doesn't even look good in my perspective.

And when Will was taking to his father, all I heard was a breathy, girly voice. SERIOUSLY, he's so girl-sounding-like. And that didn't help my view of the Unuich.

Now I just think he was never a 'Man' in the first place, honestly, was he BORN a girl?

Lol, sorry for hating Orly, sorry for hating Will. I just had to say that. Sorry.

I totally agree with this post, Swann and Sparrow. I do not particularly care for Orlando Bloom, either. I actually consider him to be quite ugly, myself. He looks do no appeal to me at all. I think he is funny in the bloopers, though. Anyways...I just really think Will is a very weak character, IMO. So I sure hope he stabs the heart. 😉

Originally posted by lovethemtigers
I totally agree with this post, Swann and Sparrow. I do not particularly care for Orlando Bloom, either. I actually consider him to be quite ugly, myself. He looks do no appeal to me at all. I think he is funny in the bloopers, though. Anyways...I just really think Will is a very weak character, IMO. So I sure hope he stabs the heart. 😉

Sorry, Pirates' Life fo .....I didn't mean to be rude....I was just agreeing.

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Lovethemtigers..he laughs like a woman in those bloopers lol.

Surreal44
Norrington does not stab the heart...Will stabs the heart. I'm not gonna explain how I know he does it but these are the logical reasons:

1. There is no indication what so ever that Norrington is going to do it in DMC. He does show that he may redeem himself in movie 3..but this time he'll do it for real rather than faking it.

2. Will has been set up in a number of ways to stab the heart in DMC. If he didnt then people would look back at DMC and say "HUH?" with a blank stare. Its not just a set up so we can be tricked..Its like a whole destiny set up, plot points revolve around it like where Will crossed step 5 and agreed to save his father no matter what.

I can understand. You dont have to believe me. I may be wrong. but certain things I know of suggest its not fake.

Yes...I hadn't thought about Norrington's sword that Will made for him that was a gift from Gov. Swann...very interesting....but I'll stick to my guns, I believe all the clues and symbolisms, etc...point to Will stabbing the heart....

I sure hope Norrington does redeem himself. I always thought it would be cool for Jack and Norrie to end up friends....I just love the Norrington character....Next to Jack and Liz..next favorite is Norrie and then Mr. Gibbs.

and yes, Lovely...Orlie does laugh like a girl...that's why I love "something there" vid that shows Will whenever it's Mrs. Potts turn to sing...

"have you met William Turner, excellent soprano, worth at least four souls...."

"you're not a eunich are you?"

"snip, snip, eunichy, eunichy"....

Oh I love when Jack picks on poor old Willl

LMFAO^^

..also when he laughs he sort of brushes his hair away from his face like a right little girl.

The thing I spot with Norrie and Will's swords is different. Its on the Ilsand scene. Jack's is the one pointing to Liz. Norri and Will's are across her as if blocking Jack off in a X shape

They both join up in movie 3 with the EITC no? against Jack

Wavern came out of the hull in DMC and said something like "the flying dutchman needs a captain and the captain needs a heart. Whomever has the heart is the captain". After he said that he went back into the wall.

IMO this is a parallel with what Jack did in COTBP when he took one of the coins, got stabbed, became un-dead, etc. (you know the rest)

Will is thinking how he can accomplish stabbing the heart and staying alive too. IMO this is were Tia comes into play. She either lifts the curse or she has to do something to try and redeem herself so when The Brethren come together they will lift the curse on her.

I just had a thought, maybe Orlando's comment about "getting the girl"
was not too far off the mark. Did he say what girl. And if he winds up with Tia, does that mean that Jack/Liz don't?

Originally posted by Pirates life fo
Ok I have to post something on this. Are you 12 years old? WE GET IT ALREADY!!!!! Jesus dont you know how to shut up about not liking Will or Orlando? We understood it the first time you said it. You dont need to beat it into our heads in each thread!. I havent been replying to any posts lately because they ALL turn out the same way. I hate Orlando/Will from you or J/E from everyone else. Can anyone here start an intelligent thread without these two things saturating them?!?

With all your respect, I believe that everyone here is entitled to their own opinions. I agree that sometimes people get a bit out of control and used harsh words towards a character. But just the way you stated it, it kind of suggest that you believe everyone here is the same. We are intelligent people capable of debating different kind of threads. And no, not everything that is posted here is I hate Will/Orlando or J/E are going to have a lovely dovey ending related. Because people here have different kinds of opinions and is our job to respect them. We do not believe the same.

I was only joking with my responses. I do actually like Orlando Bloom. I just dont find the character of Will interesting. I'm sorry I just dont look at PotC and think "Will makes this so great" he's not a reason why I am a fan of PotC. I liked Elizabeth in 1, Norington and Jack..but Will? I just didnt get it.

But Yeah Orlando's cool even before I didnt like the character of Will I would poke fun at his feminine ways cuz I thought it was cute. Have you seen Orlando on V Graham Norton? that was SO hilarious. They showed him the goings on of the In-bloom message board. and he has his like girlie laugh and its rather sweet. 🙂 And i poked fan at that too. But I said he could pull it off.

earlier on I went off on a rant because I was thinking back to the fans of The will character actually being happy about Jack's character being hurt etc. not that it gets to me in a personal way. Just that they watch PotC and dont like the character of JS..its like "WHAT?" It doesnt make sense. Jack Sparrow makes PotC what it is. If he wasnt there then Orlando and Keira wouldnt be able to pull this movie off on their own..It would be like the "Haunted Mansion" or something

Whats that in your sig LovelyOne?

😛..I wont say here I'll PM it if you want?