Superman vs HULK
HULK would win.
The proof is in the pudding. The evidence I enter into submission is biased, but it should be. Marvel and DC have license to design, build and create any character they desire, each comic juggernaut has its champion. When crafting a hero truly representative of your company name, you don’t hold back.
In the comic book world, and lets be sure, it is another world, it is the playground where dreams are actually made into reality.
DC, and Marvel, are both able to utilize the best minds, and artists full of rampant unchecked limitless creativity, able to dream things borne of their wildest imaginings, untethered by anyone’s influence; it is expected of them to create the most powerful superhero they can fathom.
at the very least, they have carte blanche in improving old ideas, redesigning, rebuilding, and rebirthing their ultimate superhero. The rules to be applied should be playground rules, everything and anything children can conjure in a world where rules don’t apply, Super Hero’s created impervious to every single ability an opponent can imagine.
With all due respect if Marvel makes a hero, DC should by all rights be countering, and everyone knows they have, but they have done a piss poor job of it.
DC’s flagship hero is Superman, Marvel has Hulk, who may not be the ‘flagship’, but he is the strongest of any hero Marvel has.
And yeah, yeah legal this, baloney that, **** this Coke and Pepsi bullshit, and whatever’ to the ‘no comic crossovers’. Ask any Superman fan, DC would never allow Superman to be killed by Hulk, I guess everyone already unconsciously agrees that Hulk would win. Which is beside the point that DC has done a less than admirable job defending Superman against the argument of Hulk vs Superman.
Marvel and DC should get their heads out of their asses, admit they are grown children and best friends. And get to work creating animated movies where their champions battle to the death. They could do it, if it is about money, then there is no reason not to make this happen, people would pay to see Hulk and Superman fight. Just imagine dads taking kids to see ninety minutes of the worlds strongest titans battle, the new "Roman Gladiators" if you will, you don’t even need a story line, just the best fighting ever.
In my humble opinion, the Hulk would beat Superman hands down. I’ve heard the arguments; They have fought before, and Superman won. That was a fan voted victory, and it was how long ago? Superman never uses his full abilities, he is faster than the Hulk, he can regenerate using the earth’s sun, he is from Crypton, he could carry Hulk into space and suffocate him, and or throw him into the sun, etc so on and so forth. You think the hulk is just going to let Supe do that? I know when I get into an imaginary fight, I win every time, but in reality ‘Superfans’ the Hulk would be fighting Superman as he attempts to carry him out of the atmosphere, the Hulks power is his anger, and from what I’ve seen, he is usually pretty pissed when he fights.
Now, the proof I provide, are the very videos that DC and Marvel have put forth. I recommend everyone watch the five animated movies produced by both Marvel and DC, (DC seriously needs to push a little harder here) Marvel is clearly pouring more effort into building their guardian Hero than DC; Hey why not? Each camp has the opportunity to make their hero’s cooler, stronger, bigger, faster, more powerful. Marvel is doing exactly that.
No one is stopping DC from engaging in this. Marvel knows what it’s doing. and they’ve produced four animated movies in which Hulk is showcased whole or in part as unstoppable. Avengers One and Two, and recently, Hulk vs Wolverine and Thor. As biased as they may be, these four movies are Marvels open challenge to DC that Hulk is the most powerful superhero. In each one, Hulk is virtually unbeatable, if you haven’t seen them, do so, and then we’ll talk.
What has DC brought to the table? “Superman vs Doomsday” Superman almost dies fighting a creature which obviously is more than a little similar to Hulk.
Yes Superman exhibits super strength, he kicks some ass, and I really enjoy his little diatribe in the end where he says ‘he’s never let loose, and how he is always so careful’. but he still gets his ass beat to within inches of his life. Frankly DC put in a less than valiant effort showcasing Superman. Did they have to do such a crap job of it? DC, its like they held back, knowingly or not, it is clear when you watch all of the movies who is really letting their respective hero flex his abilities.
Anyone, after watching all five movies could agree that the Hulk would be more difficult to defeat than Doomsday. Undoubtedly, you can bicker and whine all you want, but Hulk beat the shit out of the entire S.H.I.E.L.D. organization, A fleet of Space aliens, Captain America, Iron Man, Ant Man, Thor (twice, thoroughly), Omega Red, Sabertooth, Deadpool, Lady Deathstrike, and Wolverine. The evidence is there, video verification provided by Marvel and DC of their Hero’s in action.
Arguably Marvel has clearly put more effort into this than DC, but who’s fault is that? DC has let Superman fans down in this respect, they have left their “Man of Steel” to flap limply in the wind.
These animated movies are perfect testing grounds between comic and live action movie. This is where the battle should be fought, even if they never actually fight each other, they can fight others and be showcased like never before.
I plead to DC, even if it means redoing the Doomsday battle, Superman needs revamping, as intelligent, honorable, and respectable as he is, pull out all the stops, seriously you’re letting your fans down.
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Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
superman is to fast...to god damn fast actually. Considering Superman could take the battle to space, he would have an unlimited source for energy absorption from the sun.superman blew out a star. Name one feat that Hulk has that comes close to comparing to that.
when did sups blow out a star???? is that a pre crisis feat???? sonds like something from super dickery
Originally posted by emporerpants
wow. so your arguement is this: "hulk wins because i want him to!" by the way, the animated things aren't cannon, so they don't count. comic superman is many times more powerful than any animated version. sorry, it doesn't matter how much you don't like it, but hulk loses to superman, and badly.
cartoon superman/doomsday and superman from dos are fairly even, I can't think of one feat of superman from the bryen area that trumps the doomsday killing feat in the cartoon. that being said your right about catoons aren't cannon and the rest maybe but you have to give this newb creidit it's not like he went into the comic thread (or when there was still one) the hulk thread he went into the superman thread to say this. That takes stones
Originally posted by Vally DooshDepends on your perspective. Some argue Hulk's ability to get stronger & increase his endurance over time, equalizes things against opponents who have advantages of flight, speed and energy projection to go along with strength & endurance; like Superman or Thor. Stan Lee seems to think so.
Agree with Galvaclaw. Superman/Hulk isn't that good of a match up IMO.
Originally posted by emporerpants
well, i suppose i should have said "current comic superman" cuz thats what i meant. but yeah, cartoon supes seems to be right around bryen area. as said before though, i meant current supes.
yeah current supes is way way way beyond his early post crisis years your right.
Re: Superman vs HULK
Originally posted by SuperlativeMarvel knows what it’s doing. and they’ve produced four animated movies in which Hulk is showcased whole or in part as unstoppable. Avengers One and Two, and recently, Hulk vs Wolverine and Thor. As biased as they may be, these four movies are Marvels open challenge to DC that Hulk is the most powerful superhero. In each one, Hulk is virtually unbeatable, if you haven’t seen them, do so, and then we’ll talk.
Anyone, after watching all five movies could agree that the Hulk would be more difficult to defeat than Doomsday. Undoubtedly, you can bicker and whine all you want, but Hulk beat the shit out of the entire S.H.I.E.L.D. organization, A fleet of Space aliens, Captain America, Iron Man, Ant Man, Thor (twice, thoroughly), Omega Red, Sabertooth, Deadpool, Lady Deathstrike, and Wolverine. The evidence is there, video verification provided by Marvel and DC of their Hero’s in action.
You forget that on at least four occasions, Thor has killed Hulk outright.
(1)An issue of What If? (Snapped his neck in space; no hammer)
(2)Marvel Mangaverse (hammer through the head)
(3)Blown apart by Godforce blast (MC2 universe)
(4)Impaled on a rock during The Reigning storyline
( in which King Thor killed him & the Thing simultaneously - without the hammer, the Odinforce & using just one arm. 😈 )
The kind of editorial protection you say DC uses for Superman, goes for the Hulk too when it's against Thor. Only in What If? and stories that get retconned - Thor changes his past so The Reigning never happened - do things go beyond stalemate with Hulk vs. Thor.
No contest...Superman wins against Hulk. Hulk fans seem to think Hulk has unlimited strength, that he'll continue to get stronger forever. There is no such thing as infinite anger. It's just that Hulk hasn't shown his anger limit. Since Hulk's power level is directly tied to his emotional state ie anger he has a limit.
I go by the comic feats. Compare the best modern Hulk feats against current Superman's feats and you'll see Superman will be the victor.
Superman...
-Able to move at 99% the speed of light
-Brain function and reaction time match that speed
-Super intelligence
-Super strength capable of moving planets, holding black holes. In the Infinite Crisis tie in issue Supes atomized a planet and shattered the boundries of space/time with the shockwaves of his blows when he was fighting Kal-L.
-Invunerability, survived the Maggedon warhead (capable of destroying half a galaxay). Survived a 700 light year blast while power depleted.
-Heat vision which is so hot it can't be measured, and we know the core temp of our sun is 45 million degrees
-Flash freeze opponents with freeze breath.
-If he needs more power he simply takes a sun bath.
What is Hulk going to do against a guy like that? While Hulk is cool, and he's hand some impressive feats he is simply not in the same league as Superman. Even Hulk's strength isn't on par with Supes.
you go on about current superman but what about current Hulk hes not as dumb as he once was if you read planet hulk. also your not gonna kill hulk by putting him in space or throwing him into the sun in fact being in the sun would make them both stronger since nuking hulk just makes him stronger. and those who say Thor vs superman would be better are insane, Thor would smash superman into tiny pieces especially if he has the odinforce.
Originally posted by GalvaclawHulks speed increases just as fast as anything else does.... The Hulks base strength is at 100 tons and it didnt take him long before he was strong enough to lift 150 billion tons. Hulk is pretty fast...in fact fast enough to hit superman like he did in previous comics and was also fast enough to match quicksilvers speed. so using speed against hulk is not a good argument.... come again?
Not really Hulk and Superman should never be matched up. Having the fight end any way other than an early ringout without Superman having been touched is jobbing Superman's part. Hulk should be like a statue from Superman's view point.They should just have Superman fight Sentry. It's what everyone wants.
Originally posted by Superdude23In fact in one of their fights supes grabbed Hulk and tried to lock him down and the Hulk broke out of supes hold knocking supes into space. and while supes was up there he said to himself... WOW! Hes not only big but hes fast! And Strong! Stronger than anyone ive ever gone up against!!!! Sorry folks but Hulk is more powerful than Doomsday! Superman said it himself!
If (and there is a good chance he won't) Superman fights effecively he will win.If he tries to slug it out, he'll wish he was back fighting Doomsday.
Originally posted by GoBotsLiveyour right about one thing and thats hulk fighting doomsday would be silly cause its alredy known that Hulk is stronger than doomsday. as i stated before it came straight from supes mouth!
Agreed. Comparing Hulk to Doomsday is silly. DD was a blur and Superman had to really try just to keep up. A real battle between Hulk and Superman would end very much like the fan-voted crossover. All it would take is one clean shot from Superman, which he can do at will because of his super speed, and it's good night for Hulk.Hulk is strong, don't get me wrong, but it would take a long time before he reaches a state stronger than Superman. By then, he'd be sleeping.
Originally posted by SlowhandThe Hulk has probably the quickest healing factor than anyone in the Marvel Universe, including Wolverine. Wounds that would be deadly to most other heroes takes just a short time for the Hulk to recover. During a battle with Vector, he repelled all of the skin off of the Hulk leaving just exposed flesh and muscle. It took the Hulk minutes to regain the mass and be completely healed. During a battle with Speedfreek, he cut the Hulk's stomach open with adamantium blades. The Hulk had to hold his stomach to prevent his insides from spilling out. Within minutes the wound had healed, but unfortunately the skin had healed around part of the Hulk's fingers. He had to rip his fingers out of his stomach and allow it to heal again. It should be noted that during the transformation from Bruce Banner to one of the various incarnations of the Hulk and back, he gains and loses large amounts of mass. The source of this mass is unknown. Hulk cant die and never has unlike superman who was killed by doomsday.
I can think of no scenario where the Hulk could beat Superman. Hulk is strong and desrves his props, no doubt, but he's really not very different from Dr. Banner. Superman is an alien with god-like powers who would never let the Hulk hit him. Hulk can yell and get as angry as he wants, but Superman would still mop the floor with him.
I know pople would like to think that Superman wouldn't kill Hulk unless he had to. Make no mistake, if it came down do it, Superman would fly through Hulk's abdomen and rip off his head.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNxhow about destroying shooting stars that were 2 times the size of planet earth with one punch.... come again?
superman is to fast...to god damn fast actually. Considering Superman could take the battle to space, he would have an unlimited source for energy absorption from the sun.superman blew out a star. Name one feat that Hulk has that comes close to comparing to that.
Re: Re: Superman vs HULK
Originally posted by roughriderBeing that the Hulk can regenerate to full form from a single molecule makes all that thor killing hulk bull illogical. just bad writing!!!! like batman beating Hulk is just bull crap!
You forget that on at least four occasions, Thor has killed Hulk outright.
(1)An issue of What If? (Snapped his neck in space; no hammer)
(2)Marvel Mangaverse (hammer through the head)
(3)Blown apart by Godforce blast (MC2 universe)
(4)Impaled on a rock during The Reigning storyline
( in which King Thor killed him & the Thing simultaneously - without the hammer, the Odinforce & using just one arm. 😈 )The kind of editorial protection you say DC uses for Superman, goes for the Hulk too when it's against Thor. Only in What If? and stories that get retconned - Thor changes his past so The Reigning never happened - do things go beyond stalemate with Hulk vs. Thor.