Dr. Strange vs The Flash

Originally posted by Board Walker
Now you are setting a double standard, Diana is as magic as they come, her powers, her body, her weaponry, down to the very blood of her, is magical.

So please do not try to dismiss her as not being magical.

Show me where Flash actually manipulated Magical energy and I will argue no further, but he hasn't manipulated such energy has he??

Originally posted by Board Walker
O you silly boy, I said magical energy is still energy, and thus kinetic, thank you for being o so polite and understanding, but it seems this train of thinking of escaped your grasp, maybe you will have better comprehension next time. 🙂

You vocabulary also reflects upon your oh so polite character.

Now you are saying all energies are kinetic. Admit it you do not know what you are on about. 🙄

Originally posted by h1a8
False
The book never has kinetic energy unless it is moving (by defin)
And you assume all things in the marvel universe is made out of atoms or moving particles. False again. Magic is undefined and cannot be known as to what nature or the physics of it operates in.

You are mistaken, the book has mass does it not? It is formed of atoms, and strings is it not? Thus they are charged and moving, thus they do are kinetic.

Secondly claiming some thing is magical and thus cannot be explained so their is no way to defeat it in a debate? How silly, by the definition of magic, which is some thing that cannot be explained in physical terms, Flash would be just as magical as Dr. Strange.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Not true on two parts, light has shown to have some mass, and secondly, if Strange's shields or projectiles has no mass then Flash could pass right through them, and thus they wouldn't be a effective shield.

Light is Electromagnetic Radiation....how does it have mass? Does Kinetic Energy have mass? Nope it doesn't...

Here's you go:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/light_mass.html]Light doesn't have Mass

Magnetos Shields are massless...they're all down to Charge....Like repels like...etc...

Plus Stranges shields are Magic...so who knows how those work....

Fact remains ALL energy is not Kinetic Energy...Moving Matter possesses Kinetic Energy...Kinetic Energy is converted into other forms of Energy...and vice versa

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
Now you are saying all energies are kinetic. Admit it you do not know what you are on about. 🙄

You really do not understand do you?

What is all matter made of? Atoms and Strings if you want to go further.

Are all atoms charged and moving? Yes

Thus they are kinetic.

At the very core of all things, they are kinetic, why that is so hard for you to understand I don't know, maybe it is because you have such a narrowminded view of the definition and understanding of Energy.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Light is Electromagnetic Radiation....how does it have mass? Does Kinetic Energy have mass? Nope it doesn't...

Here's you go:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/light_mass.html]Light doesn't have Mass

Magnetos Shields are massless...they're all down to Charge....Like repels like...etc...

Plus Stranges shields are Magic...so who knows how those work....

Fact remains ALL energy is not Kinetic Energy....

Wrong, I will provide the links later, research has shown Light does have some mass, so your point is null and outdated. (Ever heard of solar sails?)

Secondly, if some thing is charged, then at a sub atomic level, it is moving, and thus it has kinetic energy.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Wrong, I will provide the links later, research has shown Light does have some mass, so your point is null and outdated. (Ever heard of solar sails?)

Secondly, if some thing is charged, then at a sub atomic level, it is moving, and thus it has kinetic energy.

Photons have no mass....

The charge is a Electromagnetic Force....not a mass....

Originally posted by Board Walker
Now you are setting a double standard, Diana is as magic as they come, her powers, her body, her weaponry, down to the very blood of her, is magical.

So please do not try to dismiss her as not being magical.

who cares if she is magical
a magical force field is different entirely.
And light has no mass. Only crackpot physicists say this
If it did it would violate the laws of relativity

Also it is incorrect reasoning to assume it an object cannot penetrate something then that something is made out of atoms, quarks, etc.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Photons have no mass....

The charge is a Electromagnetic Force....not a mass....

That is not what proven research has shown

You still do not understand what I am saying, do you?

Electromagnetic or not, if it is charged, then at the sub molecular level it is moving, and if so it has kinetic energy.

Hard to say. If Strange can get the drop on Flash fast enough, he can win this. It really depends on how motivated Flash is to win this fight. As seen on JLU, Flash can be a very dangerous man when he's going all out and using his full potential.

Originally posted by h1a8
who cares if she is magical
a magical force field is different entirely.
And light has no mass. Only crackpot physicists say this
If it did it would violate the laws of relativity

Also it is incorrect reasoning to assume it an object cannot penetrate something then that something is made out of atoms, quarks, etc.

Crackpot scientist? You mean proven study, such as solar wind mills? Being moved by light, and solar sails already in design?

You really should at least know some thing about what you are speaking of, before actually speaking of it.

Your post also shows you know little to nothing of Diana (Wonderwoman) She has perhaps the strongest magical shield in comics.

I do not mean to show anyone disrespect, but when no respect is shown to me, I become some what less patient.

Originally posted by Board Walker
That is not what proven research has shown

You still do not understand what I am saying, do you?

Electromagnetic or not, if it is charged, then at the sub molecular level it is moving, and if so it has kinetic energy.

I want to see this proven research....because Light having a mass would screw with the Mass-Energy concept Einstein came up with...

Electromagnetic Force is the energy that holds the nucleus together....and atoms together....

The EF is responsible for the movement of the electrons around the nucleus, the EF energy is converted to Kinetic Energy...it is not KE itself...

Which is the whole point...KE does not equate to being the same as Light Energy, Gravatational Energy etc...

Originally posted by Board Walker
That is not what proven research has shown

You still do not understand what I am saying, do you?

Electromagnetic or not, if it is charged, then at the sub molecular level it is moving, and if so it has kinetic energy.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Crackpot scientist? You mean proven study, such as solar wind mills? Being moved by light, and solar sails already in design?

You really should at least know some thing about what you are speaking of, before actually speaking of it.

Your post also shows you know little to nothing of Diana (Wonderwoman) She has perhaps the strongest magical shield in comics.

I do not mean to show anyone disrespect, but when no respect is shown to me, I become some what less patient.

Solar Windmills...use Solar panels....

And Solar Sails....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/exploration/futurespaceflight/solarsails.shtml

The Suns Photons are so intense....that they create a force that is so great...(Force does not = mass) which happens to be enough to push the sail....

Originally posted by Board Walker
Crackpot scientist? You mean proven study, such as solar wind mills? Being moved by light, and solar sails already in design?

You really should at least know some thing about what you are speaking of, before actually speaking of it.

Your post also shows you know little to nothing of Diana (Wonderwoman) She has perhaps the strongest magical shield in comics.

I do not mean to show anyone disrespect, but when no respect is shown to me, I become some what less patient.

Energy is the ability to do work. Or move something massive with a force over a distance. You imply that for something to move something else it must have mass. Rethink that logic.

What force shields does diana have?
Doesn't matter since you falsely assume that all magic is made of the same stuff.

"The spacecraft deploys a large membrane mirror which reflects light from the Sun or some other source. The radiation pressure on the mirror provides a minuscule amount of thrust by reflecting photons. Tilting the reflective sail at an angle from the Sun produces thrust at an angle that bisects the angle between the Sun and the spacecraft. In most designs, steering would be done with auxiliary vanes, acting as small solar sails to change the attitude of the large solar sail (see the vanes on the illustration). The vanes would be adjusted by electric motors."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_sail

Light has no mass.....Photons have no mass....

Einsteins Mass-Energy concept still holds today....

BTW Jesse7 that you? Why the change of username?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Huh? Since when? 😕

Ecactly, board walker you are dumb.

Kinetic energy is the energy that a body possesses as a result of its motion.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Since quite a while, in order for it to be energy, it is kinetic.

No it isn't. Ever hear of potential energy?

Better yet, have you ever heard of the law of conservation of energy.

Fire a bullet up in the air, and as gravity takes its toll the bullet slows down (assume no wind and straight shot) as the bullet rises its Kinetic energy is decreasing and potential (energy of position) is increasing. FInally the bullet stops and for a brief moment is no longer in motion. At that moment the bullet has ONLY potentail energy, and that PE is equal to the K energy from when the bullet was first fired.

I am oversimplifying a ton here and know that, but was trying to show you what conservation of energy is.

You are just plain wrong on this energy stuff.

Ek= (1/2) MV^2 at the top the bullet isn't moving.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Ecactly, board walker you are dumb.

Kinetic energy is the energy that a body possesses as a result of its motion.

Thank you for pointing that out. I don't know how a magical blast could ever possess kinetic energy?