Am rather peed off

Ohh and another thing I noticed;

Ted and Terry don't always agree about what the compass is pointing towards.

Ok plain and simple, they don't agree as to where the compass was pointing.

On the Isla Cruses the compass was in fact pointing towards the chest the entire time. But Elizabeth thought that it might not be.

Humm? They didn't agree at first as to where it was pointing, Now all of a sudden they came to an understanding and decided that the compass was pointing at the chest.

he's talking about the curiosty scene not the end scene with that "allowed Jack to kiss her"

we shouldnt believe anything at all until the actually dvd comes out...on dvd, not from the computer....and seeing as there are just about equal amounts of spoilers, and everyone seems to be contradicting them selves everywhere, no one really will know for sure till AWE...so really guys, dont let yourself be jerked around by every little thing, good or bad. this has been a roller coaster ride as someone said before(sorry, dont remember)....come on guys....KEEP THE FAITH

Oh I know lovely but note how he says "that she does have this desire as well", Why wouldn't she allowed him to kiss her, if she was desiring him in that scene as well. We saw that she was ready for it, and she was willing to do it. Terry admit it in the last quote that I found.

This whole commentary seems odd. I am not saying its not true. But is clearly missing something. That is just my though.

Maybe it's just that at certain points the guys can't decide where the compass points? I dunno, just a thought.

But they are men, after all. Everyone says men are more definite in their answers, but I honestly don't think so. 😄 Men always try to make things more difficult than they need to be.....

No wonder poor Liz is confused about her feelings, if the guys writing her can't seem to make up their minds. 😆

LOL maybe thats the reason why she can't figure it out.

It just seems more plausible if the writers contradict each other rather than them contradicting them selves. Let me explain, it would be understandable if they don't agree in certain things. But when you contradict yourself it creates insecurity. Therefore what you have said before may not be reliable or believable anymore.

Oh, who cares? There is plenty more to talk about rather than what the writers-who-can't-make-up-their-minds say.

I adore TnT, but I get a headache trying to figure out what they are trying to say, so I think I'll just ignore it from now on. 😄

So on that note....

TnT say that the order of swordfighters goes Will, Barbossa/Norrington/Jack...

I'd agree that Jack is probably the least skilled, but what about the others?

😑 WOW i leave for like 2 hours and a lot happens dont want to rain on a sunny day or anything but i went to rent a movie at blockbuster AND DMC was there! it was in a plastic container behind the counter! I asked about it and the lady said they get it anywhere from 1 month to 1 week till it actually comes out! it really makes you feel so close yet so far away anybody want to break into a blockbuster? 😖hifty: lol jk

"TnT say that the order of swordfighters goes Will, Barbossa/Norrington/Jack...

I'd agree that Jack is probably the least skilled, but what about the others?"--------surreal

I've heard this, too. Let's see, I would rank them all this way:

Will
Barbossa (yes, I think he would win against Norrington)
Norrington
Bootstrap (I think he has fight in him)
Liz (she's a fast learner and is gaining competency at a genius level)
Ragetti (he's the meaner one, right?)
Pintel
Davy Jones (just because I think he's out of practice)
Jack
Tia Dalma (because she can probably shoot laser beams out of her eyes)

Originally posted by willofthewisp
Will
Barbossa (yes, I think he would win against Norrington)
Norrington
Bootstrap (I think he has fight in him)
Liz (she's a fast learner and is gaining competency at a genius level)
Ragetti (he's the meaner one, right?)
Pintel
Davy Jones (just because I think he's out of practice)
Jack
Tia Dalma (because she can probably shoot laser beams out of her eyes)

night ppl

i personally wonder if this info is 100%. is there any chance someone made it up... i want to see an offical link.

Originally posted by Mistypirate
LOL maybe thats the reason why she can't figure it out.

It just seems more plausible if the writers contradict each other rather than them contradicting them selves. Let me explain, it would be understandable if they don't agree in certain things. But when you contradict yourself it creates insecurity. Therefore what you have said before may not be reliable or believable anymore.

Or maybe it's all a clever ruse, as the writers have shown great competence in explaining their logic through out DMC, that they pretend not to know where the compass is pointing, to build the anticipation of AWE?

They wouldn't have written about the compass or made it such a big deal in DMC if they didn't have a very clear agreement on where it points, why it points there and what the purpose of the compass is. It wouldn't be smart writing or planning on their part as that leaves the possibility for continuity or plot holes in their writing.

These are not stupid men, nor are they stupid writers. Think about how much time in between CotBP and DMC that they had to pull together their ideas for the sequel and tie everything together. If they don't agree as to where the compass points, they are pretending, for the sake of a rather gullible audience not to know.

They're not going to reveal the secret of how it works, or why Elizabeth does what she does in the commentary that they know all the die hard shipper fans are going to be watching. That'd put a horrible dent in their thus far brilliant marketing campaign. They're going to try in that commentary to clear up as much as possible, to leave crumb-like clues and to toy with our emotions.

guys, i have a theory, what if the compas is just broken, i mean what if norrie had it right all along, it was never magical jack was just lied too, like you would a child...im probably way off base, but what if?

It's a possibility, and one that hasn't really been offered that I've seen. But would Jack have been able to find the Isle de Muerta if it was actually broken?

I agree with what you have said Savysparrow, Thats how marketing works. The writers know what they are doing. I know that the commentary is going to leave us with more questions than answers, no matter what ship we are rooting for. Thats how it works.

Sailorleo,there are millions of possibilities, who knows if the bloody thing doesn't work. It could happen. Thats the magic of movie making.

Originally posted by savvysparrow
It's a possibility, and one that hasn't really been offered that I've seen. But would Jack have been able to find the Isle de Muerta if it was actually broken?

Buried on an island of dead what cannot be found except for those who know where it is....

what would be the point of the compass? under the it works like it's described than in theory, all the person would have to do is to really want the isla de muerta, and voila...but...well i lost my roll but i think you see where i'm getting at

Hahaha, yes I understand, and that's actually a very good possibility. Jack seems to have already known the coordinates of the Isla De Muerta the first time he went to go and find it with Barbossa at his side.

Though, if the compass was broken, it's possible that they probably wouldn't have found the chest either. They had to figure out where it was somehow and Jack didn't know the coordinates for that one. Which raises the question, what was it exactly that Jack wanted when he was searching for Isla de Muerta? Was it the Pearl, or something more tangible?

And at the beginning, all Liz wanted to do was find the chest of Davy Jones. But it's hard to know if it was what she wanted because it would lead to Will, or if it was what she wanted because Jack also wanted it. See?

Also, I've been thinking an awful lot about the writer's comment about the blocking of the chest scene in DMC in regards to the compass.

I've looked at the scene over and over again. One of the writers said that if you pay attention to the scene, and to the blocking of the scene, you'll figure out something that Elizabeth doesn't know.

Elizabeth claims that the compass doesn't work and that it doesn't show [her] what [she] wants most. But, as Jack approaches, it's clear that the compass does work. What's interesting in that scene is that the thing that Elizabeth doesn't know is that Jack's compass is pointing to her.

I get what you are saying, sometimes when you want something really bad, and you have faith that you will get it, your wish might come true. Is that what you mean?
Or Jack could unconsciously have known where Isla de Muerta was all along.

Originally posted by Mistypirate
I get what you are saying, sometimes when you want something really bad, and you have faith that you will get it, your wish might come true. Is that what you mean?
Or Jack could unconsciously have known where Isla de Muerta was all along.