What is the take on gay marraige/homosexuality, with all different religions?

Started by Nellinator6 pages
Nellinator Crazy Canuck

Originally posted by King Kandy
This is mild. The "Un-Mild" form is more like the holocaust.

...Very mild in comparrison.


I'm not so sure of that. Rejection by one's family and friends is so much more personal and hurtful. The Holocaust was more painful maybe, but it was more confusing and impersonal. Rejection is one of the greatest evils in this world. I personally find physical pain dismissible when compared to deep emotional and spiritual pain. Please, don't be ignorant of that.

Alliance Enforcer of the Republic

Its all a matter of perception. Physical pain is much easier to block out, but it can easily take over your higher thinking capabilities.

King Kandy Senior Member

You honestly think one person being estranged from his connections to be worse then the mass genocides?

Nellinator Crazy Canuck

Originally posted by Alliance
Its all a matter of perception. Physical pain is much easier to block out, but it can easily take over your higher thinking capabilities.

Somewhat. But pain is fleeting. It comes and goes.
Originally posted by King Kandy
You honestly think one person being estranged from his connections to be worse then the mass genocides?

I think one person would be better off exposed to the horrors of Holocaust than being rejected by his family and friends.
I have many ideas on the psychological effects of the Holocaust and how many of them may have been worse, but such effects were not the necessarily the Nazi's main intent. Rejection is intentional. I don't want to argue which is worse, but it is important to understand that the conditions Urizen posted are not mild and definitely not very mild.

Imperial_Samura Anticrust Smurf
Originally posted by King Kandy
You honestly think one person being estranged from his connections to be worse then the mass genocides?

In some cases. You can speak to a psychologist and they will give you figures about the number of people they deal with in a bad way due to childhood matters - including that estranging, but at the same time you can see many victims of the Holocaust overcome it, grew from it, even used it as a source of strength to set about seeing it would never happen again.

The impact on the individual varies, but remarkably it is the little, personal things that get stuck and, like grit in a oyster, build up into a pearl of... well, unpleasantness.

Alliance Enforcer of the Republic
Originally posted by Nellinator
Somewhat. But pain is fleeting. It comes and goes.

I think that can just as easily applie to emotional and mental pain.

Capt_Fantastic Restricted

Whoever decided to bring up the holocaust is only slightly more ridiculous than all the people who are arguing about it.

Alliance Enforcer of the Republic
Imperial_Samura Anticrust Smurf
Originally posted by Alliance

Are those people being killed by "lol"'s? Laughing themeslves to death it seems.

Though to be honest I dislike "leet" grammar, so lets use eugenics on thos people who lol and ROFL and HAXOR and the rest.

Alliance Enforcer of the Republic

1334 is amusing. It has its uses, but is basically a bunch of useless nerd trying to be cyberpunk.

Nellinator Crazy Canuck

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
In some cases. You can speak to a psychologist and they will give you figures about the number of people they deal with in a bad way due to childhood matters - including that estranging, but at the same time you can see many victims of the Holocaust overcome it, grew from it, even used it as a source of strength to set about seeing it would never happen again.

The impact on the individual varies, but remarkably it is the little, personal things that get stuck and, like grit in a oyster, build up into a pearl of... well, unpleasantness.


You are right. Bitterness is often a result. I deal with family issues of resentment all the time. Childhood rejection is way to common for the amount of pain it causes.
Originally posted by Alliance
I think that can just as easily applie to emotional and mental pain.

Sometimes. But emotional pain has such more subconscious influence and is more likely to linger and turn into bitterness and resentment.

Alliance Enforcer of the Republic

If its a subconscious influence, how are you perceiving its effects? (not personally, but as a general observation)

Nellinator Crazy Canuck

Originally posted by Alliance
If its a subconscious influence, how are you perceiving its effects? (not personally, but as a general observation)

Others can see changes in people. I have seen many people discover things about other people and therefore avoid them without even knowing that they are doing it. Some people grow apart because of emotional sufferring despite that fact that they have forgiven each other. Forgive and forget is a true rarity in real life which is not necessarily a bad thing, but sometimes it prevents healing.

Alliance Enforcer of the Republic

That still doesn't indicate a subconsicous influence.

I thought forgiveness was one of THE central pillars of Christianity. The words of Christ have been perverted indeed if it is not anymore.

Nellinator Crazy Canuck

Yes it does.

Yes, forgiveness is central to Christianity. I don't remember saying otherwise.

Alliance Enforcer of the Republic
Originally posted by Nellinator
Yes it does.

How?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Yes, forgiveness is central to Christianity. I don't remember saying otherwise.

I'm tired and I guess I just misinterpreted our statement. My intepretation does not make sense to me now.

Nellinator Crazy Canuck

Originally posted by Alliance
How?

I'm tired and I guess I just misinterpreted our statement. My intepretation does not make sense to me now.


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You might find that subconscious effects are shown most often in behavior, not in speech and thought. Behavior is often effected by underlying feelings and thoughts that are often not rational (ie. blind hatred). They often start out as conscious feelings (ie. after a fight) and then disappear from conscious thought (ie. speech), but the effects of these feelings remain because the problems have not been resolved.

Imperial_Samura Anticrust Smurf
Originally posted by Alliance
1334 is amusing. It has its uses, but is basically a bunch of useless nerd trying to be cyberpunk.

And few things are worse then bad Cyberpunk.

Maybe I am just bitter about the way people talk on Counter Strike while I type full sentances with actual grammar on my side (ok, when I do play, which isn't often, I don't talk much.) Though the "All your bases are belong to us" made me laugh.

Lord Urizen Perfection

Originally posted by Alliance
No.

The only thing that interferred with human's natural evolition was our ability to deliberately change our environment.

Environment is always changed through WAR.

Lord Urizen Perfection

Originally posted by King Kandy
This is mild. The "Un-Mild" form is more like the holocaust.

...Very mild in comparrison.

So you think I should get sent to a concentration camp to make me straight ?

It might work...kinda extreme...but it may work. I am sure most Christians would have no problem with that solution. 😉