Alright the Tale of the Tape
Classic Hulk strongest version vs Drax with Power Gem
Height 7foot Height 7foot4
Weight 1,040 vs Weight 1,050
Full Potenial Strength limitless vs Strength with Power Gem limitless
running speed enchanced vs running speed enchanced
Stamina metahuman +++ vs Stamina metahuman +++
Durability Demi-Godlike +++ vs Durability Demi-Godlike +++
reflexes athlete vs Reflexes Athlete
agility athlete vs Agility Athlete
Fight ability No Skill but effective vs Fight ability No Skill but effective
No Flight vs Sub-light speed flight
energy blasts none vs energy blast concussive blasts
equal on all but two things Hulk can't fly and doesn't have enegy blasts
Hulk has been around longer I would give the slight advantage over Drax in fighting ability. I saw Drax with only 6/10 times
Also all you Hulk haters He has beaten Hyperion Gladiator Galaxy Master Rhino Abomination Thor and went toe to toe with 4 very powerful Avengers and held his own he has fought Pre-Crisis Superman for a while He fought the Celestial Order creatures and many other he has proven himself as a power house and respectible Comic Character so back off 😠
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Well, Power Gem Drax has more efficient access to his physical power. I'm not saying Hulk couldn't hold his own in a slugfest, though, because anger comes naturally to him. But still, the Gem is far more efficient.
I agree.
Yes, Hulk can get stronger as he gets madder. But, when they say his strength potential is limitless, that is just opinion. It is based on anger, and availability of gamma radiation to fuel the increases.
And, those increases are not instantaneous, and they can only come in the even of a "trigger". Anger.
Drax just, plain, has limitless power. All the power in the universe, including the Hulk's, I would imagine.
Right then and there. No waiting,no triggers. Just power. Bango.
Originally posted by Horrificus
I agree.Yes, Hulk can get stronger as he gets madder. But, when they say his strength potential is limitless, that is just opinion. It is based on anger, and availability of gamma radiation to fuel the increases.
And, those increases are not instantaneous, and they can only come in the even of a "trigger". Anger.Drax just, plain, has limitless power. All the power in the universe, including the Hulk's, I would imagine.
Right then and there. No waiting,no triggers. Just power. Bango.
It's not really opinion, just what they wanted to establish for him. They either literally refer to him as a being with the potential for limitless power or as a being that was never shown to have an upper limit. Concerning the latter, we should remember that these so called scientifically worded sentences are every bit as artificial as the character itself. They are a rather pretentious (albeit amusing and arguably necessary) way of avoiding the typical comic book silliness and hyperbole. I personally think it works, to certain extent, because it's sort of hard to present an actual truth in typical Stan Lee fashion.
Anyway, there's still a lot unknown about how the Hulk's physique really works. Hell, there's not even a real explanation for why his mass doesn't increase when he gets boosted. They just never truly bothered to provide a clear cut answer. Some say there's even a supernatural/Mystical/inter-dimensional element at work. I don't know how much of that is true, but there's still a lot of questions to be answered. What I'm saying is that his (potential for) unlimited strength is not really a hyperbole anymore (like it used to be in the very early days), just something that requires more background info. Of course, there are certain clues, such as the fact that Hulk has done things that wouldn't normally be possible or the fact that his brain and body work differently from other (super)humans.
Btw, his strength increases ARE instantaneous, and triggered by ADRENALINE in general, not just anger in particular. Still, rage and excitement are what (Savage/Mindless) Hulk does best, so it's basically all he needs for most of the time. But like I said, an 'easy trigger' is still not nearly as efficient as not needing a trigger at all. However, that doesn't necessarily mean Drax would notice the difference in a straight up Clash, since power that is truly unlimited is hard to wield expertly. In practice, they would probably end up increasing themselves blow by blow. That would be character induced stupidity from Drax' part.
Although I must admit that I haven't really been keeping up with Drax lately.
Originally posted by Rewmac
And didn't Hulk beat him back one day???Just check out Hulk v3 95...It the biggest trash I've read. But Surfer did some nice stuff, but it's bullshit.
Why do people refer to that fight like it was a typical bout between the two?
Originally posted by DinalfosMe either. I always liked Drax. Even back in his early, Captain Marvel, Thanos and the Cosmic Cube days. But, I don't remember too many Power Gem feats.
It's not really opinion, just what they wanted to establish for him. They either literally refer to him as a being with the potential for limitless power or as a being that was never shown to have an upper limit. Concerning the latter, we should remember that these so called scientifically worded sentences are every bit as artificial as the character itself. They are a rather pretentious (albeit amusing and arguably necessary) way of avoiding the typical comic book silliness and hyperbole. I personally think it works, to certain extent, because it's sort of hard to present an actual truth in typical Stan Lee fashion.
Anyway, there's still a lot unknown about how the Hulk's physique really works. Hell, there's not even a real explanation for why his mass doesn't increase when he gets boosted. They just never truly bothered to provide a clear cut answer. Some say there's even a supernatural/Mystical/inter-dimensional element at work. I don't know how much of that is true, but there's still a lot of questions to be answered. What I'm saying is that his (potential for) unlimited strength is not really a hyperbole anymore (like it used to be in the very early days), just something that requires more background info. Of course, there are certain clues, such as the fact that Hulk has done things that wouldn't normally be possible or the fact that his brain and body work differently from other (super)humans.
Btw, his strength increases ARE instantaneous, and triggered by ADRENALINE in general, not just anger in particular. Still, rage and excitement are what (Savage/Mindless) Hulk does best, so it's basically all he needs for most of the time. But like I said, an 'easy trigger' is still not nearly as efficient as not needing a trigger at all. However, that doesn't necessarily mean Drax would notice the difference in a straight up Clash, since power that is truly unlimited is hard to wield expertly. In practice, they would probably end up increasing themselves blow by blow. That would be character induced stupidity from Drax' part.
Although I must admit that I haven't really been keeping up with Drax lately.
Originally posted by Horrificus
I agree.Yes, Hulk can get stronger as he gets madder. But, when they say his strength potential is limitless, that is just opinion. It is based on anger, and availability of gamma radiation to fuel the increases.
And, those increases are not instantaneous, and they can only come in the even of a "trigger". Anger.Drax just, plain, has limitless power. All the power in the universe, including the Hulk's, I would imagine.
Right then and there. No waiting,no triggers. Just power. Bango.
WE are talking comics right??
So iff the writters say his anger or his strenght is limitless.
Than so be it.
Tell me one reason IN Comics why is anger can't be limitless????
Back on topic: drax shouldn't play around with hulk and finish it fast, or atleast shouldn't let hulk get to angry.
Didn't the first Drax destroy a planet along with Thanos? He also fought Thanos alone.
That one wins.
The second Drax had been forced through suns, asteroids, through quite a lot.
That one also wins.
Drax with the power gem one shotted Champion.
Do I have to say who wins that one?
Current Drax is an awsome fighter, took on a army full of Annihilation fighters, took out Delinquent, stayed behind when a planet exploded, etc.
He seems like a way better fighter than Wolverine. He is faster, stronger and has two knives.
He beats Hulk.
Anyway you look at it, Drax wins.
Drax without the Powergem was a 40tonner... with the Power gem he was a 100 tonner...+
Peter David has stated that since 1996 Drax has been regaining his intelligence... but in exchange for his intelligence.. comes loss of strength.. current Drax is not as powerful (though a lot more skilled) that infinity watch Drax... and that drax got stronger through rage only because he held the power gem....
Now classic drax without the power gem is gonna get completely obliterated by hulk.
Current Drax would need sufficient weaponry to even harm hulk, and then again a singular strength from hulk would devastate Drax.
Classic Drax with the power gem would be the equivalent to Savage Hulk enraged... and possibly more...
But seeing as how I assume general forum rules dictate the use of the most current character... unless otherwise stated..
From our forum rules
In most cases, the poster who originally set up the versus fight determines the conditions of the fight itself (ex. If a character like Superman is in a thread, it'll be assumed that it's the current version unless mentioned otherwise by the thread starter, the same goes with Thanos without the IG, and so on). However, in the cases where the original poster did not set down any contraints or conditions for the fight, then the match would default to the standard rules below.
So I assume current Drax, and I assume he loses as he hasn't shown me anything yet that would make him a threat to hulk. even classic isn't a threat unless he has the power gem. that with the power gem, drax might only pull a slight majority.