Northstar vs Quicksilver.

Started by rotiart4 pages

Northstar vs Quicksilver.

Northstar vs Pietro... however Pietro has his classic and current powers.. meaning he has his speed, reflexes and time travelling powers...

Personally I'd give the edge to Pietro...

northstar easily. Quicksilver moves at the speed of sound. 2000 mps. Northstar moves at the speed of light 186000 mps.

When did he start to move at the speed of light???

I've never heard of Northstar reaching lightspeed.. I always thought he was restricted to mach speeds... looking at a couple sites I notice that most say that if he moves beyond Mach 10 he would experience pain, and that while it may be possible for him to approach light speed "theoretically" he has not done it.

The below is from marvel.com, but it states pretty much the same thing on several sites... I can't profess to read much alpha flight, only maybe 5-6 issues, but i've never seen him do anything like what people are suggesting.

From marvel.com:
Northstar can move and fly at superhuman speed. He can channel a portion of the kinetic energy of the atomic motion in his body's molecules in a single direction, accelerating his body to a velocity in direct proportion to the amount of kinetic energy he has tapped. It is theoretically possible for Northstar to reach 99% of the speed of light (186,272 miles per second in a vacuum), but his inability to breathe at such speeds and the damage his body would suffer from wind and friction prevent him.
As a side effect of partially robbing his molecules of their atomic motion, the binding forces within and between the molecules increase which enhances the sheer toughness of Northstar’s entire body. This effect gives his skin enough durability to withstand speeds up to at least Mach 10 without injury. Northstar can also vary the rate of acceleration of his molecules to release a cascade of photons as bright as a lighthouse beacon.

he's never actually moved at light speed on panel, but due to the nature of his powers he has the potential to. cuz he's not just some guy who can run and fly fast, as stated he can accelerate his molecules, but no matter how fast you are you cant beat someone who can time travel. case in point Wally vs Zoom

Originally posted by carver9
northstar easily. Quicksilver moves at the speed of sound. 2000 mps. Northstar moves at the speed of light 186000 mps.

2000 mps is way faster than Mach 1.

yah.. but you through in the timetravel...

Originally posted by manjaro
he's never actually moved at light speed on panel, but due to the nature of his powers he has the potential to.

Naaa...he did it recently against the X-Men

1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/xmen190005qg7.jpg

Here's Aurora dodging multiple lightening bolts
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_18.jpg
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Aurora/Northstar respect thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=423434&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=1

So northstar is bad now?

I get paid for the first time in 3 months on friday. I've got a lot of catching up to do on my comics firefirefireph

Yes and no, he was killed and ressurected by the Hand and given an upgrade but brainwashed just like how Wolverine was. Then he was captured by S.H.I.E.L.D. to be reprogrammed to be a good guy, however, the Children of the Vault destroyed the S.H.I.E.L.D base and took Northstar in and gave him an upgrade and brainwashed him some more. Him and his sister, were both brain washed by this new group, but they are desperatly trying to break the control and return good.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yes and no, he was manipulated by the Hand and given an upgrade but brainwashed just like how Wolverine was. Then he was captured by S.H.I.E.L.D. to be reprogrammed to be a good guy, however, the Children of the Vault destroyed the S.H.I.E.L.D base and took Northstar in and gave him an upgrade and brainwashed him some more. Him and his sister, were both brain washed by this new group, but they are desperatly trying to break the control and return good.

Ok thanks. I was only aware of that happening by the hand, cheers for the info.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Naaa...he did it recently against the X-Men

1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/xmen190005qg7.jpg

Here's Aurora dodging multiple lightening bolts
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_18.jpg
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Aurora/Northstar respect thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=423434&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=1

I'm sorry but i can't see the actual posts... so i can't see what its saying in pic 1.

pic 2... not sure either.. but i do have to say lightning bolts do not travel at the speed of light. they are stated as anywhere form 1/3 to 1/2 the speed of light... with the stated general speed as around 60000 miles per second still 60000 miles per second.. about just less then 1/3 the speed of light is pretty darn frigging fast...

1. Northstar moved at the speed of light which mentions how fast the speed of light and then mentions how Cyclops visor is much slower so Northstar steps into the gap and redirects the blast

2. Their not the speed of light, just showing a speed feat that trumps anything Quicksilver has ever done. However, zig-zagging between them...major feat.

oh yeah i forgot aboutt he cyclops thing...i guess you have to see the actual comic to make it out, but if yo ulook closrly you can just make him out as a barely visible blur

Originally posted by manjaro
oh yeah i forgot aboutt he cyclops thing...i guess you have to see the actual comic to make it out, but if yo ulook closrly you can just make him out as a barely visible blur

Yep, I have the whole battle posted in the respect thread if anyone wants to see it.

Originally posted by carver9
northstar easily. Quicksilver moves at the speed of sound. 2000 mps. Northstar moves at the speed of light 186000 mps.

hysterical2

2000 mps DOES NOT = the speed of sound

The speed of sound is roughly 750 mph, and 2000 mps is 7,200,000 mph

speed of sound is 2000 mps someone need to some more history. Speed of sound start at 2000 mps and again northstar moves easily at the speed of light with no fatigue, he does it all the time, with no problem and mimic has a piece of northstar powers and he can only use 50% of the powers that he get. It was stated in the exiles book when mimic fought hyperion that he moves half the speed of light which is 93000 mps. Oh and by the way, with all you people using superman strength in battles, I have a wizard that shows superman top speed and it states that he move only at 2000 mps. If he fought someone like mimic or northstar or flash they would dodge him all day, with no problem.

Originally posted by carver9
speed of sound is 2000 mps someone need to some more history. Speed of sound start at 2000 mps and again northstar moves easily at the speed of light with no fatigue, he does it all the time, with no problem and mimic has a piece of northstar powers and he can only use 50% of the powers that he get. It was stated in the exiles book when mimic fought hyperion that he moves half the speed of light which is 93000 mps. Oh and by the way, with all you people using superman strength in battles, I have a wizard that shows superman top speed and it states that he move only at 2000 mps. If he fought someone like mimic or northstar or flash they would dodge him all day, with no problem.

question, i know exiles tends to use alternate realties... so... how does that fit in...?
Northstar is stating as having the potential to hit lightspeed.. but has not been shown beyond mach 10.

and the speed of sound is NOT 2000mps... there is no history on it. He's right its about 750 mph...The speed of sound is 344 m/s (1238 km/h or 770 mph). notice thats 344 meters per second, 1238 kilometers per hour or 770 miles per hour... these are speeds taken at sea level...

even if you were doing meters... as mps... you're off by almost 1700... m/s...

And now you know... and knowing is half the battle!
jesus.. didn't you take physics carver? cause it definitely looks like batdude did...

roughly...
sound= 770 mph
light= 186000mps
lightning 60000mps (roughly though it does appear to be debated between 1/3 to 1/2 the speed of light)

big difference.. huge... gigantic...

thank you all for the info but was stating that qs moves at 2000 mps whereas northstar moves at 186000mps.