Full Powered Galactus attempts to destroy the multiverse

Originally posted by Kutulu
You should get your hands on this story:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/timebubblegalactus.htm

It would help you to understand the true nature of Galactus better.

Im aware of said instance, i have the issues in digital form, after seeing your previous post, i knew you were going to be the one to reply to my post with this as evidence. That is why i said nothing on the matter at first but waited to hear from you just so i could let you know that that scene is irrelevant as a reference to Galactus' power level. Why? 😕

Because it was Galactus after Celestial manipulation. Galactus under the natural scheme of things, Galactus as we know him has limits and has a capacity FAR from universal spanning.

You referencing that instance as testament to a full power Galactus is like me referencing Binary as the Thanos with the IG as representative of Thanos' power or me referencing Wolverine in his role as Death as representative of the normal Wolverines power.

Why is that all irrelevant? Because all said instances, just like Galactus in that FF4 story arc were brought about by outside factors. They are not a part of said characters, natural, inherent abilities. There is no evidence that said characters could perform such feats without the involvement of said outside factors.

You can tailor a thread to include that Galactus, by saying Galactus after Celestial manipulation, however what you cannot do is equate that incarnation to be a full power Galactus. Because it is NOT. Galactus as we know him gets full on the energies of a handful of planets.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Im aware of said instance, i have the issues in digital form, after seeing your previous post, i knew you were going to be the one to reply to my post with this as evidence. That is why i said nothing on the matter at first but waited to hear from you just so i could let you know that that scene is irrelevant as a reference to Galactus' power level. Why? 😕

Because it was Galactus after Celestial manipulation. Galactus under the natural scheme of things, Galactus as we know him has limits and has a capacity FAR from universal spanning.

You referencing that instance as testament to a full power Galactus is like me referencing Binary as the Thanos with the IG as representative of Thanos' power or me referencing Wolverine in his role as Death as representative of the normal Wolverines power.

Why is that all irrelevant? Because all said instances, just like Galactus in that FF4 story arc were brought about by outside factors. They are not a part of said characters, natural, inherent abilities. There is no evidence that said characters could perform such feats without the involvement of said outside factors.

You can tailor a thread to include that Galactus, by saying Galactus after Celestial manipulation, however what you cannot do is equate that incarnation to be a full power Galactus. Because it is NOT. Galactus as we know him gets full on the energies of a handful of planets.

The only thing that the celestial did in that instance was make it so that Galactus was driven insane by hunger from increasing his hunger geometrically through altering his armor. Galactus already had that capacity to convert time / space on his own, however, he keeps himself in check under normal circumstances. What the arc showed was the capacity of what Galactus was capable of, because if he had done that in 616 universe, all of Marvel comics would be gone. They had to have some way to tell the story, thus they used the alternate universe / timeline in order to do so.

All of them are distractions.

The only two who have a feasible chance of beating him is Thanos (due to the above mentioned unlimited power at his disposal) and Shuma Gorath ( Galactus doesn't understand magic and within his ream Shuma is about a step away from omnipotence)

Originally posted by Kutulu
The only thing that the celestial did in that instance was make it so that Galactus was driven insane by hunger from increasing his hunger geometrically through altering his armor. Galactus already had that capacity to convert time / space on his own, however, he keeps himself in check under normal circumstances. What the arc showed was the capacity of what Galactus was capable of, because if he had done that in 616 universe, all of Marvel comics would be gone. They had to have some way to tell the story, thus they used the alternate universe / timeline in order to do so.

Galactus' armor is a fundamental part of his power. It helps him regulate his energies. Your argument is full of speculation. On panel a normal Galactus free of external factors maxes out after the intake of the energy of a few planets.

Equating a normal Galactus at maximum capacity to Eternity based on the showings of an abnormal Galactus, a Galactus altered by Celestial manipulation, is poor logic. Theres no getting around that.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Im aware of said instance, i have the issues in digital form, after seeing your previous post, i knew you were going to be the one to reply to my post with this as evidence. That is why i said nothing on the matter at first but waited to hear from you just so i could let you know that that scene is irrelevant as a reference to Galactus' power level. Why? 😕

Because it was Galactus after Celestial manipulation. Galactus under the natural scheme of things, Galactus as we know him has limits and has a capacity FAR from universal spanning.

You referencing that instance as testament to a full power Galactus is like me referencing Binary as the Thanos with the IG as representative of Thanos' power or me referencing Wolverine in his role as Death as representative of the normal Wolverines power.

Why is that all irrelevant? Because all said instances, just like Galactus in that FF4 story arc were brought about by outside factors. They are not a part of said characters, natural, inherent abilities. There is no evidence that said characters could perform such feats without the involvement of said outside factors.

You can tailor a thread to include that Galactus, by saying Galactus after Celestial manipulation, however what you cannot do is equate that incarnation to be a full power Galactus. Because it is NOT. Galactus as we know him gets full on the energies of a handful of planets.

This line shouldnt be in that post : "Binary as the"

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Galactus' armor is a fundamental part of his power. It helps him regulate his energies. Your argument is full of speculation. On panel a normal Galactus free of external factors maxes out after the intake of the energy of a few planets.

Show me where, on panel, Galactus has maxed out his intake after a few planets.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If Thanos has the power gem then Thanos can take him alone.

He has access to a virtually unlimited energy source with said gem and could use it to make himself invulnerable to whatever Galactus threw at him and he could use it to bolster his energies to beyond anything Galactus could muster.

How is Thanos going to stop Galactus from using the Ultimate Nullifier on him? The ultimate nullifier is part of Galactus, and therefore falls under normal equipment usage of arena rules. It was shown to be during the Abraxas saga.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If Thanos has the power gem then Thanos can take him alone.

He has access to a virtually unlimited energy source with said gem and could use it to make himself invulnerable to whatever Galactus threw at him and he could use it to bolster his energies to beyond anything Galactus could muster.

Galactus is a limited physical being. He isnt constantly hooked up to an energy source, he eats, he acts, he burns off his reserves. Thanos alone would annihilate.

There was a Galactus thread run by Leonidas a little while ago where this full power Galactus equalling Eternity nonsense was stomped on. That notion is not canon. It is an unsupported fantasy spread by Galactus lovers. Galactus has limits he has a capacity and he reaches that capacity after consuming the energies of multiple planets.

Galactus' energies being sucked out by the elders and used to give life back to a handful of planets.

Galactus eventually getting back to his machniery and using it to reclaim his stolen power and becoming FILL TO CAPACITY

A full power Galactus DOES NOT equal Eternity. Galactus would have to consume the entire universe for that to be the case. As you can clearly see under normal circumstances Galactus does NOT have the capacity some people would have you believe.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Show me where, on panel, Galactus has maxed out his intake after a few planets.

I didnt post those scans for no reason. 😬

Galactus had his energy stripped from him and it was enough to give life back to 6 or so planets. Nova disrupted the power leeching process by blowing up a sun, Galactus reclaimed his power and said he was full to capacity.

Galactus' word about his capacity is greater than your opinion on the matter.

Originally posted by Kutulu
The only thing that the celestial did in that instance was make it so that Galactus was driven insane by hunger from increasing his hunger geometrically through altering his armor. Galactus already had that capacity to convert time / space on his own, however, he keeps himself in check under normal circumstances. What the arc showed was the capacity of what Galactus was capable of, because if he had done that in 616 universe, all of Marvel comics would be gone. They had to have some way to tell the story, thus they used the alternate universe / timeline in order to do so.

Its been said, Galactus becomes a Celestial. He isn't more powerful than them

Originally posted by Kutulu
How is Thanos going to stop Galactus from using the Ultimate Nullifier on him? The ultimate nullifier is part of Galactus, and therefore falls under normal equipment usage of arena rules. It was shown to be during the Abraxas saga.

Galactus may be connected with the UN but he has never been shown to be able to just materialize it in thin air to use whenever he wishes. He always has it stored away somewhere. Connected to him, but not a part of his standard equipment. As such your point flops.

The power gem is the gem that amps up the others to cosmic proportions. It is the energy reservoir that the other gems tap into it when they are together as the Gauntlet.

The other gems as standalone tools arent major cosmic powers.

Thanos with the power gem can amp his powers up to the point where hes way beyond Galactus. Thanos could amp his physicality to the point where hes beyond the point that Galactus can hurt him. With the gem he can unleash enough power to annihilate Galactus.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Your flaw here is ... [B]That's not full powered Galactus . [/B]

Galactus claims the energies to be filling him to capacity. It was pretty much a full powered Galactus. 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Galactus may be connected with the UN but he has never been shown to be able to just materialize it in thin air to use whenever he wishes. He always has it stored away somewhere. Connected to him, but not a part of his standard equipment. As such your point flops.

Originally posted by Kutulu

Why are you showing me this? I know what happened i know what was said, how does that change the validity of my last post on the matter? 😕

It dooes not 😬

Galactus may be connected with the UN. He may claim it to be a very part of himself meaning as demonstrated he has a closer affinity to it than any other being, but as we have seen on panel many a time, Galactus cannot or has not ever shown to carry the UN on him, or regularly materialize it during battle. With that in mind it doesnt count as standard equipment for him. Standard equipment is Mjolnir, Ghost Riders motorbike, Dr Stranges eye of Agamotto. Items characters possess and utilise the majority of time in battle. The UN doesnt qualify. You've lost on that point.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Why are you showing me this? I know what happened i know what was said, how does that change the validity of my last post on the matter? 😕

It dooes not 😬

Galactus may be connected with the UN. He may claim it to be a very part of himself meaning as demonstrated he has a closer affinity to it than any other being, but as we have seen on panel many a time, Galactus cannot or has not ever shown to carry the UN on him, or regularly materialize it during battle. With that in mind it doesnt count as standard equipment for him. Standard equipment is Mjolnir, Ghost Riders motorbike, Dr Stranges eye of Agamotto. Items characters possess and utilise the majority of time in battle. The UN doesnt qualify. You've lost on that point.

The UN is part of Galactus. It showed it right there in the scan. It also showed him summon it directly. Silver Surfer brings his board to arena fights, in the same manner, the UN is part of Galactus, and he has the ability to summon it directly if he wants, as shown right there, on panel, in the scan that I posted. 💃

Galactus states, and I quote: THE ULTIMATE NULLIFIER. AS MUCH A PART OF ME AS MY HEART ITSELF. This is after he summons the ultimate nullifier.

On-panel.

You lose.

Originally posted by Kutulu
The UN is part of Galactus. It showed it right there in the scan. It also showed him summon it directly. Silver Surfer brings his board to arena fights, in the same manner, the UN is part of Galactus, and he has the ability to summon it directly if he wants, as shown right there, on panel, in the scan that I posted. 💃

You've shown Galactus claim the UN to be a part of him and then wrap an energy field around it and snatch it away from Abraxas into his own hand. Not good enough. 😉

To win the point you need to post scans of Galactus throughout continuity consistently wielding the UN on panel. Show it to be a standard part of his equipment.

Show it to be used as standard like Mjolnir or Caps shield.

Until then. Your celebrations are both premature and unjustified.

Good try though. 😄

Thanos with the power gem can amp his powers up to the point where hes way beyond Galactus. Thanos could amp his physicality to the point where hes beyond the point that Galactus can hurt him. With the gem he can unleash enough power to annihilate Galactus.

To use the same argument, has this ever been shown on-panel? Or is it speculation? Champion had use of the power gem when he faced (either she-hulk or silver surfer, i forget) in an arena, and while his powers were increased, it was nothing like "way beyond the power of Galactus."

Originally posted by Tenebrous
To use the same argument, has this ever been shown on-panel? Or is it speculation? Champion had use of the power gem when he faced (either she-hulk or silver surfer, i forget) in an arena, and while his powers were increased, it was nothing like "way beyond the power of Galactus."

Thanos>Champion

Originally posted by Tenebrous
To use the same argument, has this ever been shown on-panel? Or is it speculation? Champion had use of the power gem when he faced (either she-hulk or silver surfer, i forget) in an arena, and while his powers were increased, it was nothing like "way beyond the power of Galactus."

Of course T. Otherwise i wouldnt have said it. 🙂

Champion never used the gems power to its full potential. He was an oaf. He used it just to amp his strength and durability not fully realising what he possessed:

When fighting the Gardener the Thanos reiterates the point about the power gem:

I hope ive illustrated my point quite clearly T? 😕

The power gem is an energy reservoir to virtually unlimited power. Its what made the IG so impressive. As standalone gems the others packed a wallop but it was with the backing of the power gem that the others became universal threats.

The power gem can back up any force with virtually unlimited power. Be it physical strength, energy powers and so on.