Originally posted by Vim
IT SHOULD'VE HAD GAMBIT!!! Why no Gambit?? Why? We have no backstory to Kitty or Colussus, other than the fact that they are mutants at the school. In fact Cyclops and Jean have no backstory other than that they've been at the school for awhile... Why couldn't Gambit already be there?? Why ask why? Why not? Sorry Gambit is one of my all-time faves, and him and the Rogue from the comic book should be together. The movie Rogue is such a pansy is awful.. They totally screwed her origin up big time!!
They were going to have gambit and they picked the main guy from LOST to play him you know jacK ( i forget the Actors Name lol!) and because they couldn't get him they wrote him out of the script.
I think gambit is one of the worst x-men characters though it would have been interesting to see how the movie utilised him.
If they had had gambit it would have been just yet another x-man standin g around doing nothing. 😆
[SIZE=4]i[SIZE=3] think the movie shda went like this the professor shuda sent the lake to retrieve jean because he sensed her immensed power as they arrived she should have rose from the water in a fiery bird separating all the water then collapse as she stated i am phoenix then emma forst shuda started manipulating jean after she discovered that jean wasn't dead. emma shuda been using her telepathic ability to manipulate jeans own because her's were dormant because of the whole being dead thing but in the climax of the movie emma shuda tried to kill scott which cause jean to snap and become the all powerful dark phoenix just like in the comics
I think that any hope for a X4 is a dream. The only way that they could have been any more definitive in the end of the line would have been a storm that comes along and cause the mutant gene to make the owner explode. The originator of the team and leader is dead. Can the movie go on? yeah, but why? so that some of the characters that we like can be introduced? Then if so, I want Morph. But I want his powers to not be a copy of the originals like Mystique, but a short term real power fest. Won't happen. But if this is where we send our dreams of X4 to die, then so be it, thats my pick
Originally posted by 2-D
They were going to have gambit and they picked the main guy from LOST to play him you know jacK ( i forget the Actors Name lol!) and because they couldn't get him they wrote him out of the script.I think gambit is one of the worst x-men characters though it would have been interesting to see how the movie utilised him.
If they had had gambit it would have been just yet another x-man standin g around doing nothing. 😆
Wow, I had actually already noticed that Sawyer would be a cool Gambit. Except for the accent, I think he'd be great!
Sorry, Stickman, that was a great plot, but think about budget! All these great scenes would cause tickets to be like 30 bucks! Sentinels all over, Pheonix, etc... wow! Even Gambit would be pricey! I think they should have had him, beast, angel in the beginning. And made it show how Rogue gets how she is now, instead of being some doll...
If i were to do over X3 (granted J.Marsden wasn't restricted to SR)
I would only change a few things such as
1-Jeans return- Instead of having Cyclops going missing they would have found his body aswell as Jean's body, but he'd be really torn up as if Phoenix started to dissintegrate him and the Jean stopped her.
2- Professor and logan discusses Jean's powers- Professor will tell Logan about setting up mental blocks when she was younger *but* he suspects that her powers grew as a result of using cerebro. "The power of Cerebro perhaps overwhelmed her causing her to send out a telepathic cry for help, one which was asnwered by a force she calls the Phoenix."
3- I would insert a scen where Scott awakens which is after Jean escapes. Logan'll be sitting where Jean went bezerk and escaped. Scot'll will slowly make his way to the broken down doors and when he realizes Jean's missing he'll automatically freak out asking what happened and blame Logan. He'll try to fight him but Logan'll subdue him and try to calm him down Storm will emerge from the elevator and make haste to calm them down. Logan'll let him go and Scot'll walk off not wanting to talk.
4- At Jean's house before she dissintegrates Prof X she will glow like in X2 when she unleashes her Phoenix poewers. After retunring from getting their buts kicked by the brotherhood and Dark Phoenix at Jean's house Scott still wounded, but now able to walk will ask where the professor is. When he learns of the tradgedy he'll break down.
5- The movie will pursue just the same, but with Scott taking to his room much like the beginninng. then instead of having Logan go after jean who telepathically contacts him Scott would.
6- The pre war scene would start with the X-men suiting up and Scot will join from the elevator suited up he'll be told he's too wounded but won;t care and they'll unerstand. Logan will still giving the inspiring speech and then Storm will warn Scott that he must be ready to do what he must do.
7- At the war Everything will flow the same with Scott's action scenes added and When Jean goes bezerk she will be surrounded with energy again. Scott will take Logan's place in saving Jean; but Jean will force Dark Phoenix to spare him to some extent. He'll be extremely wounded and then he'll tell her he loves her and weeps then does the deed.
*The part about the Phoenix answering a call will serve as subplot for future films if there were to be any this would of course have to do with the pyramids of egypts*
Singer thanks alot. I know Fox shouldn't have forced you to choose be tween X3 and Superman, but you should have stuck to X-Men.
Problems with X3
1. Colossus is hyped in previews(same with Angel), and then especially on Colossus's part, had barely any screentime, and in fact lines.
2. Shadowcat with Iceman.
3. No Juggernaut/Colossus fight.
6. There is no mention of the stepbrother relation between Xavier and Juggernaut.
7. Multiple man and Callisto being villains as well as Callisto having the wrong powers.
8. Archlight and Quill being in the movie.
9. Leech not being Green.
10. The whole story moving really quickly with not much tieing in between the scenes.
11. Juggernaut being a mutant, thought it is understanable.
12. The lazy ending with the cure being used to effectively end the series.
13. No Avalanche.
14. Incorrctly giving Marvel names to wrong characters. Examples Bolviar Trask was the crippled scientist in a wheelchair that creted the Sentinels, however in the movie he is a general in the Pentagon, that has no need for a wheel chair.
15. No Nightcrawler.
16. Curing Magneto and Mystiqueetc.
How the movie should have gone is hard to say giving the countless number of plots that could have been made. Personally I would have done something with the Shi'ar.
I don't think i could have made a better x-men film. Made a comic or an animated series? sure, i could have made a better x-3 film through those means, or maybe fully 3d animation using dreamworks studio.. maybe.
but actually casting and filming an x-man film would be pretty insane rough.
i loved the plot, and of course you know scott is alive, not even the phoenix would kill him. And you know jean will come back, i mean come on, it's the phoenix. Gotta die to rise from the ashes. It's pretty weak that they just incorperated the phoenix into her powers though. but adding a space shot, where the x-men hijack a nasa shuttle, jump on board and then get hit by a cosmic flare on the way back.. that's like.. a series of films just on it's own.
I think they did an awesome job with what they had, and they did a great job at keeping it grounded. i really couldn't have done better.
at least they stayed semi-true to the powers of the x-men, bobby, rogue and the likes.
i wouldn't have picked that storyline though, i found it annoying in the comic. i would rather have them cut out all the weak scenes of jean-grey and have them added cameo's of other x-men.
i don't know where to post this but can someone tell me the alternete endings that came on the DVD, and i think that jdea is right about some changes about the movie, but at the end instead of haveing logon/scott killing jean she relizes everything that she did and flees and kills herself(not really but it looks that way)
P.S.
i heard this somewhere and i myself didn't think this up, but he says that scot could be alive that maybe when the phoenix awakes it justs knocks scott unconises and injuries him badly, and then gambit and find him. and as for possiblity for apoclispse (can't spell sorry)
that might be an idea for next movie.
X-3 should have been the title to the movie, The whole "cure" storyline should have been more detailed, Angel should have been used more, Beast should of had a back story about his time at the school and why he left.
In my movie Kitty Pryde would have been the type of character Pyro was in 2, she would enjoy going round for round with Rouge for Bobbys attention.
Angel would be brought in the same as in the movie because that was cool,he would take refuge at the school and train with the students leading into a romance with Jubilee.
Jubilee would have a strong backstory and a romance with Angel
Sebastian Shaw would be Magnetos finacial backer as he waged his war against the human race.
Emma Frost would be Jeans replacement at the school