Count Dooku and Anakin could prove to be considerable problems for Yoda in an all out fight, though he'd comfortably beat them both due to his speed and Force mastery. However, at the same time, he likely couldn't handle Count Dooku's refinement with the Force and Makashi as well as Anakin's overwhelming power and brutal swordsmanship.
Originally posted by Swirly Girl
Honestly, Dooku didn't seem to have much trouble with parrying Yoda's incessant, acrobatic striking in AotC. If you add in Anakin, Yoda's going to be overwhelmed.
Are people still saying that?
It didn't appear to me that Count Dooku was fighting him off as effortlessly as you say. Several sources (including the Visual Guides)have stated that Dooku was unable to overcome Yoda in combat and was forced to flee.
A few months before RotS, Yoda and Dooku met in combat again. This time, it was on Vjun, a planet steeped in the Dark Side. At the end of the novel (Dark Rendezvous) Count Dooku only attacked Yoda when Yoda was distracted using the Force to stop a woman from falling to her death. And, yet, a distracted Yoda overcame him, on Vjun no less.
Dooku fled.
The only one in the PT who is equal to Yoda is Palpatine, and both of them are decidedly above Dooku. I finally got the whole Dooku > Palpatine thing squared away.
Yoda > Dooku, but yes, when you add Anakin, he's going down.
Originally posted by Escape81
Are people still saying that?It didn't appear to me that Count Dooku was fighting him off as effortlessly as you say. Several sources (including the Visual Guides)have stated that Dooku was unable to overcome Yoda in combat and was forced to flee.
A few months before RotS, Yoda and Dooku met in combat again. This time, it was on Vjun, a planet steeped in the Dark Side. At the end of the novel (Dark Rendezvous) Count Dooku only attacked Yoda when Yoda was distracted using the Force to stop a woman from falling to her death. And, yet, a distracted Yoda overcame him, on Vjun no less.
Dooku fled.
The only one in the PT who is equal to Yoda is Palpatine, and both of them are decidedly above Dooku. I finally got the whole Dooku > Palpatine thing squared away.
Yoda > Dooku, but yes, when you add Anakin, he's going down.
Exactly.
"Unable to defeat Yoda in combat, Count Dooku uses the force to topple a crane that threatens to crush Obi Wan and Anakin. As Yoda rescues his allies, Dooku flees in his Solar Sailer."
Also, in the force fight, Dooku couldn't harm Yoda, while, Yoda took no offensive stances at all. He blocked all the debris instead of throwing it back, and absorbed the lightning instead of directing in back at Dooku.
Are people still saying that?
It didn't appear to me that Count Dooku was fighting him off as effortlessly as you say. Several sources (including the Visual Guides)have stated that Dooku was unable to overcome Yoda in combat and was forced to flee.[/quote]
Honestly, he doesn't appear to show any exertion whatsoever. He's outclassed by Yoda in the force - that's a certain - but as far as the lightsabre combat went; they didn't overcome each other. I don't buy into that bullshit that the novelisation - based on an prior version of the script - makes.
Honestly, the problem lies with the EU. I'll accept the ruling that Yoda is superior to Dooku in both quarters, but the on-screen depiction of the fight showed Dooku pretty much stalemating Yoda. Yoda went all flippy and acrobatic and achieved jack. At one point, he jumps onto a series of ledge and . . . lands back where he started.
Originally posted by Swirly Girl
Are people still saying that?It didn't appear to me that Count Dooku was fighting him off as effortlessly as you say. Several sources (including the Visual Guides)have stated that Dooku was unable to overcome Yoda in combat and was forced to flee.
Honestly, he doesn't appear to show any exertion whatsoever. He's outclassed by Yoda in the force - that's a certain - but as far as the lightsabre combat went; they didn't overcome each other. I don't buy into that bullshit that the novelisation - based on an prior version of the script - makes.
Honestly, the problem lies with the EU. I'll accept the ruling that Yoda is superior to Dooku in both quarters, but the on-screen depiction of the fight showed Dooku pretty much stalemating Yoda. Yoda went all flippy and acrobatic and achieved jack. At one point, he jumps onto a series of ledge and . . . lands back where he started. [/QUOTE]
You also have to realize that Yoda never truly tried to kill Dooku because of their bond. He has always tried or hoped to bring Dooku back to the lightside, which is why he ALWAYS takes the defensive against Dooku.
Grown ups are talking, go back to your corner when the big people talk.
Anyway, he uses an offensive style and was wearing Dooku down. Saying he went on the defensive is, as far as technicalities go, a wording error. Basically he was making sure not to kill him, while still using Ataru, his offensive style.