Originally posted by outarddwarf
[B]In actuallity in one of the new excalibur comics he says that he is continually 'loseing' more power. As in he is getting weaker. He was knocked out by a short fall (compared to his other durability feats) in the latest New excalibur.New Excalibur 13-15 is supposed to go indepth with how cain became the juggernaut, how there were others before him and other stuff. The writer is supposed to take him back to classic level but doesn't know if he will keep him good or make him a villian again.
I still have qualms with the colossus scan, for all we know they are talking about Colossus' maximum lifting ability. Also they could be supprised he is struggling because he has never struggled in the past. And even though he is struggleing he still lifts the weight and asks for more! So the scan is very inconclusive as to who is more powerful then! However, juggernaut is even weaker now so Colossus is probably his stronger now. [/B]
You can struggle with a weight and still be able to lift the weight. Before you Max out when weight lifting you can still struggle to lift a weight.
For all you know he was just under colossus' Maximum weight. So for all we know he could have lifted colossus' max weight and a little more.
Their suprise at his struggling could have simply been because they had never seen him struggle before. Whenever he fought them he didn't need to breath, he never tired, and infinetly durable. How would it not be suprising to see the guy that has never had a hard time doing anything begin to need effort for things he did with a shrug in the past?
That scan is very very very suspect in its clarity of That level juggernaut's lifting capabilities.
Originally posted by outarddwarf
You can struggle with a weight and still be able to lift the weight. Before you Max out when weight lifting you can still struggle to lift a weight.
For all you know he was just under colossus' Maximum weight. So for all we know he could have lifted colossus' max weight and a little more.Their suprise at his struggling could have simply been because they had never seen him struggle before. Whenever he fought them he didn't need to breath, he never tired, and infinetly durable. How would it not be suprising to see the guy that has never had a hard time doing anything begin to need effort for things he did with a shrug in the past?
That scan is very very very suspect in its clarity of That level juggernaut's lifting capabilities.
You can sit there and (mis)interpret the scan however you want, friend. That doesn't change the writers INTENTION, which was clearly to show that the Current Juggernaut had been VASTLY depowered, to a range below even Colossus, someone Juggernaut used to be able to stomp upon.
Originally posted by Soljer
Yes, if it's classic juggs, then the Blob gets one-punched in the face, and Colossus takes a couple hits before being knocked out.If it's current Juggernaut, Blob gets one-punched in the face, and Colossus may be able to hang with the Juggernaut.
Personly I think current Juggs is stronger but then again I made this thread so if you want to know I said just read the first post.