Originally posted by Wonder ManYou make good points. Colossus in the 70's and 80's would have been defeated by Hercules. But now that Colossus is at his physical peak he can hang with Herc. Some people still view Colossus as a teenager.
This could be a good fight. Colossus years ago would have lost to Hercules. Today's Colossus is far stronger than before and more invulnerable.
Originally posted by jrodslamI was gonna say that also in my first post but I didn't know what kind of reaction I would have got. But yea you are right though.
I dont think Herc has as big of the fighting edge as most may think. I think his wrestling/grappling is what helps him the most here IF it were to give him a win. Imma call it a split 5/5.
Originally posted by FacemanWrestling is just one aspect of fighting. As far as I know Colossus has not been trained in wrestling. So in just a wrestling match alone yea Herc. would win. But in this fight anything goes. Sh!t Thing held his own against Herc. in his solo series recently. And I think it was mortal Hercules also and he was wearing the lion pelt which amps his durabilty or so I heard.
Well Herc, does beat Thor in Wrestling skills. You think Colossus can take out Thor wrestling?
Hercules as took over for Atlas by holding up the heavens
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/atlastitan.htm
(Thor I#356 (fb)/Greek-Roman Myth)- Two generations later, Hercules came to the Hesperides to fetch some Golden Apples on his Eleventh Labor. After slaying the dragon Ladon that protected the garden, he learned that no mortal man was allowed to touch them. Atlas promised to pick them for him and even reminded Hercules that Prometheus was his brother and that Hercules could trust him as much as he trusted his brother. Believing Atlas to have served his sentence, Adequately gaining the Titan’s attention, Hercules then asked Atlas to hold the heavens a second so that he could get a better hold on them, but as Atlas took his place once more, Hercules collected the apples and quickly left the area.
Originally posted by jrodslamYea but if I remember right Thing didn't want to fight at first. But when he said his catch phrase he wacked Herc. a good one. Plus Herc. has the lion pelt on which I believe amps his durabilty or some sh!t.
Well actually snoop, Thing pretty much got his ass handed to him by Herc. But i do agree that wrestling is only part of fighting.
Originally posted by golem370That was a hyperbole feat. He was talking sh!t I believe.
Hercules as took over for Atlas by holding up the heavenshttp://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/atlastitan.htm
(Thor I#356 (fb)/Greek-Roman Myth)- Two generations later, Hercules came to the Hesperides to fetch some Golden Apples on his Eleventh Labor. After slaying the dragon Ladon that protected the garden, he learned that no mortal man was allowed to touch them. Atlas promised to pick them for him and even reminded Hercules that Prometheus was his brother and that Hercules could trust him as much as he trusted his brother. Believing Atlas to have served his sentence, Adequately gaining the Titan’s attention, Hercules then asked Atlas to hold the heavens a second so that he could get a better hold on them, but as Atlas took his place once more, Hercules collected the apples and quickly left the area.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea but if I remember right Thing didn't want to fight at first. But when he said his catch phrase he wacked Herc. a good one. Plus Herc. has the lion pelt on which I believe amps his durabilty or some sh!t.
True true. Youre 100% correct. Thing didint want to fight and he did giveHerc a good one. But after that, Herc gave him a wrestling move and was going in for the hurt on Ben. Ive never heard of the pelt before, so i dont quite know all the stats about it. You may be right though.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Herc ftw 😉8-9/10
Colossus has never been shown to have nearly as much skills as Hercules
And training in the danger room is no substitute for real experience 😄
disagreed 😄. the danger room is basically real life it wont be a matter of field experience .although hercs in durance maybe better then colossus' colossus has the steel skin whihc counts for somethign still i owuld have to say herc 6/10 just becuase of his fighting skills