Magneto becomes the Juggernaut!

Started by bigbran3 pages

Originally posted by Newjak
Can't Magneto block tlepathy without his helemt?

I mean think about it not only would Mags physical powers be boosted but with the mystical energies flowing through him his utant abilities could increase as well.

So you think he can block all telepathy completely?

Of course. This would do awesome when he is able to touch his opponent.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
magnetos helmut does block telepathy (in comics)
Corrected.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Corrected.

Sort of.

I BELIEVE that it DOES help with Telepathy.

But Magneto ALSO has very strong psychic defenses of his own without hte Helmet.

Originally posted by Soljer
Sort of.

I BELIEVE that it DOES help with Telepathy.

But Magneto ALSO has very strong psychic defenses of his own without hte Helmet.

Resistance not immunity. Like Storm, but much better.

Stops at 4, 100% sure.

Originally posted by Omega-level
Stops at 4, 100% sure.

HOW?

I thought batdude once said that Magneto resisted a full blast from Xavier without his helemt before of course I may be wrong.

Either way I thought the idea could be that if the Juggernaut powers would increase wouldn't that make him much more resisted to it along with Cain's already very good helmet for blocking.

Cause if you think about it if the Juggernaut put his shield up then SS may not even be able to get the helmet off.

I'm not saying he could out right beat SS but with Magneto's powers mixed with Cain's mystical powers I find it kind of hard to believe he couldn't pull quite a few wins. Especially since Cain can give Thor fights where he has to resort to BFR for the win

Originally posted by Newjak
Especially since Cain can give Thor fights where he has to resort to BFR for the win
Does Thor, ever try and use telepathy(or even have it)?
I remember this one time when Thor negated his magic, and broke his helmet... Surfer doesn't have that ability, but this kind of shows that his helmet isn't indestructable.

Surfer wouldnt need to negate the magic to get the helmet off, he can simply just drain the power from JuggyMag. When you put someone with powers like that against someone who has full ability to manipulate energies and matter, usually just inorganic because alter organic often follows in death which isnt the surfers character...its never pretty, he gets put down at 4

The worst Sufer could do (telepathy wise) is talk to Jugerneto and maybe try and calm him down. Surfer's only telepathy showings are all passive, so he can communicate in space and such.

TMK, Surfer has never mind ****ed anyone.

Originally posted by long pig
The worst Sufer could do (telepathy wise) is talk to Jugerneto and maybe try and calm him down. Surfer's only telepathy showings are all passive, so he can communicate in space and such.

TMK, Surfer has never mind ****ed anyone.

Interesting...
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p21.jpg

Surfer can channel his cosmic power through his mind.

Originally posted by bigbran
Interesting...
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p21.jpg

Surfer can channel his cosmic power through his mind.


That was defensive, not offensive. He can fight against mind attacks, but he can't wage a mind attack. The scan you have shown only shows him able to fight against mental illusions.

He's never had the ability to use telepathy as a weapon.

Originally posted by long pig
That was defensive, not offensive. He can fight against mind attacks, but he can't wage a mind attack. The scan you have shown only shows him able to fight against mental illusions.

He's never had the ability to use telepathy as a weapon.

So he can talk to people, through the mind, he can talk to people throughout a whole universe.
He can read peoples minds.

But he can only attack them telepathically in defensive mode?
Makes sense...

almost.

Also, I don't see where you are getting that those people are illusions.

He's never shown to be capable of doing anything close to forcefully mind-blasting someone into submission or mind-controlling someone or wiping out memories by force.

Unless you've got any other scans that show him using a mind blast as an attack, I'll stick to my original point:

He's shown passive telepathy(talking in space), low end emotion control(calmed some people down) and pretty high end mind attack immunity( fought off a mind attack from Moondragon).

Also, I don't see where you are getting that those people are illusions.

Because it says they are only consciousness. Which pretty much means they are only in his mind.

Originally posted by long pig
He's never shown to be capable of doing anything close to forcefully mind-blasting someone into submission or mind-controlling someone or wiping out memories by force.

Unless you've got any other scans that show him using a mind blast as an attack, I'll stick to my original point:

He's shown passive telepathy(talking in space), low end emotion control(calmed some people down) and pretty high end mind attack immunity( fought off a mind attack from Moondragon).

I'd go look for some scans, but I'm too lazy.
How about he goes intangible, and phases through his head?
It worked for Vision (until that no good Hulk intervened).

Originally posted by long pig
Because it says they are only consciousness. Which pretty much means they are only in his mind.
So, every telepathic duel is just an illusion?

Can't even get past Thor , Thor drains any all Energy Mag's uses and then it;'s case of Juggs versus Thor....

Originally posted by grey fox
Can't even get past Thor , Thor drains any all Energy Mag's uses and then it;'s case of Juggs versus Thor....

WRONG.

I'm gonna say he gets to the SS, then loses or gets contained.

Anyway, stops at four.

Either way, stops hard at 4

and in the ridicilous chance he gets past 4, he gets obliterated at 5