Exiles Surfer vs Superman ,Sentry, Thor

Started by bigbran5 pages

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Gladiator's strength depends on his confidence, and having your entire team killed in front of you and the fact you know your going to die...I doubt he's confidence would be to high. Cannonball has with stood a punch from Gladiator.

This Exiles SS has only had one apperances, just wait abit to get a better guage of his overall power.

Exactally

Gladiator watched as Vulcan downed his whole team, and then ended up one punching him.

Originally posted by bigbran
Gladiator watched as Vulcan downed his whole team, and then ended up one punching him.

Actually it was 2 punches

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No, but he took a full force punch and afterwards Gladiator's confidence and strength took a nose dive.

Didn't Cannonball use the force he absorbed from Kallark's punch to hit him with?

gladiator confidence was up because he was angry that his teammates got killed and if youre fighting for your life I think that you would have plenty of confidence and read the words that he was saying he was going to give it his all to take this man down and he did give it his all and he failed. Now when he seen that his punch didnt work I think that he lost full confidence but before that he was confident that he was going to stop the surfer.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Actually it was 2 punches
I don't see a difference...

Originally posted by bigbran
Gladiator watched as Vulcan downed his whole team, and then ended up one punching him.

Except this time, Gladiator was fighting the entire time against SS.

Vulcan was done after the first punch. Gladiator just some extra stank on it. 😂

Originally posted by carver9
gladiator confidence was up because he was angry that his teammates got killed and if youre fighting for your life I think that you would have plenty of confidence and read the words that he was saying he was going to give it his all to take this man down and he did give it his all and he failed. Now when he seen that his punch didnt work I think that he lost full confidence but before that he was confident that he was going to stop the surfer.

Not really, he was fighting with SS before and could do nothing. That's why he sent Manta away for reinforcements as he knew they were not enough. Even when his friends were killed he didn't instantly go into a blood-lust mode.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Except this time, Gladiator was fighting the entire team against SS.
He didn't watch from the sidelines them getting tooled though.
His confidence should go up, when he is fighting as a team.

cannonball absorbed the hit and hit gladiator back with the same strength that gladiator was going to hit him with. Cannonball have the powers to absorb kinetic energy. He could have used that same trick on superman. If written well cannonball could be unstoppable.

Originally posted by bigbran
He didn't watch from the sidelines them getting tooled though.
His confidence should go up, when he is fighting as a team.

and as a team they were easily killed, he knew he was outclassed. That's why he wanted reinforcements as he knew he wasn't enough

Gladiator: "Go, Manta. Summon reinforcements"
Manta: "Gladiator, No! I will not leave you to die!"
Gladiator: "My death is not the one you should worry about. Now Go!"

Originally posted by carver9
cannonball absorbed the hit and hit gladiator back with the same strength that gladiator was going to hit him with. Cannonball have the powers to absorb kinetic energy. He could have used that same trick on superman. If written well cannonball could be unstoppable.

We know, the example as mentioned was a factor for Gladiator's confidence

Well I know a lot about Exiles. Their powers are usually the same or even lower than theri 616 counterparts. Like Mimic for example or I can put Deadpool here too along with Sasquatch.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
We know, the example as mentioned was a factor for Gladiator's confidence

You don't think Cannonball could have sent him flying without the confidence factor?

Originally posted by Validus
You don't think Cannonball could have sent him flying without the confidence factor?

What? No I meant after Cannonball blocked his punch, Gladiator was so shocked his confidence dropped as did his strength.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Well I know a lot about Exiles. Their powers are usually the same or even lower than theri 616 counterparts. Like Mimic for example or I can put Deadpool here too along with Sasquatch.

They actually stated well in the handbook, Exiles Sasquatch was 5 tons weaker than 616.

Originally posted by Validus
You don't think Cannonball could have sent him flying without the confidence factor?

no he couldnt send him flying because gladiator was toying with him the entire time. Cannonball didnt get that new power untill he thought that his life was in danger. Like i said if cannonball was written correctly he could take out superman, hulk etc; because he would have no weakness against physical attacks and they wont be able to do anything to him. Just my opinion.

Exactly what I was saying.

I know Glads was toying with him but the punch Sam absorbed was described as city destroying. Confident or not, thats not the type of attack Gladiator could have redirected in his face and still be unphased.

I have seen Cannonball getting ko'ed bouncing off a wall, and running into a standing Juggernaut..but that's different 😛

Originally posted by Validus
I know Glads was toying with him but the punch Sam absorbed was described as city destroying. Confident or not, thats not the type of attack Gladiator could have redirected in his face and still be unphased.

If cannonball absorbs kinetic energy, it shouldnt matter where he was hit on his forcefield or how hard he was hit because he would absorb it all. As for cannonball bouncing off of juggernaut etc: that was a cannonball that dont how to use his power like he do now (tackling the fury by himself). Cannonball is a heavy hitter now and when he completely knows how to use his power he could be the new unstoppable juggernaut. Heat vision wont work on him, now super strength wont work on him, you cant freeze him, basically the only weakness he have is magic. He has the power to make his force field explode, he can put his force field around you and you wont be able to get out because it indestructible (so he could just put you under the sea and let water in and he has the power to absorb ALLLLL of your attacks and increase his strength with it. Even though I hate cannonball, he can be awesome.