Sonic & The Secret Rings/Sonic Wildfire

I'm anticipating alot from this game, as perusual Sony's & Xbox's side of Sonic was....0mglotsographicsncrapstorylinewooooo....Well Nintendo's side have been quite calm as in: Lets take this game back to simple gameplay, minimum storyline and the hog on his own.

I don't know about you but the Wii side of things makes me think more of Sonic...I'm not saying that every SONIC '06 fan is a loser i'm just saying that here is a quick history of 3D Sonic games and how they've stooped:

Sonic Adventure😮ne of the BEST games i will ever play, good start for 3D Sonic and this title will always be in my heart

Sonic Adventure 2: Ouch, big letdown on this game; random story, Emo Hedgehog and Slutty Bat doesn't quite wet my pallete...The Chao had made a big improvement but the Chao alone could not make up for the simply random storyline and glitchy gameplay

Sonic Adventure 2 Battle: Sameish but better graphics and improved controls

Sonic Heroes: Good theory........Crap game (also the first game to go onto xbox and ps2, therefore defiling sonic forever)

Shadow The Hedgehog: Don't know where to start..Good graphics, storyline that got lost up it's own arse and did nothing to explain Shadow's past but complicate it more.
(Second sonic on ps2 and xbox, woah wait a minute is there some kind of pattern to this?)

Sonic Riders: Brilliant comeback but not enough conciderinng it's a spinoff (on ps2 the multiplayer was cut down to 2 player and as far as i know the xbox version was sound, so maybe a break in the pattern of crap multisystem?)

Now a new age is upon us..Next Gen, Sonic 06 will make or break Sonic's future.......But ONLY for PS3 and XBOX360...Nintendo here have done everything right and not one game that's graced their system has been THAT bad...Sonic 06 has gone with the Sonic Adventure 2 approach of introducing new characters (Sonic Riders did it in a bit more of a colourfull way)...I just have a sick feeling to my stomach that Sonic '06 will embarrass him further..

On the other hand, what do we have here? A Sonic game that has a 4 button control system? Right let's delve into that rather than a Lord Of The Rings parody.....Let us strip down a big big 3d Sonic game into the basics:

3D Graphics: Make the graphics as beautiful as you want but it won't change dodgy storyline and/or gameplay..Sonic & The Secret Rings has stripped the story to something simple and accessible rather than confusing and time wasting

Controls:Jump,Run,Change Camera,Various Special Moves,Missions.....**** that, throw all of that away....Run,Jump,Fire meter........Now THAT's stripping it down

There you have why i think that Sonic & The Secret Rings will be successfull over SONIC '06...I mean even the names make it obvious which one is lacking inspiration.....

Thoughts?
Wishes For Secret Rings?
Plans For Storyline Advancements?

Post all of this here

Sonic Wii sounds very cool. 😄

I played the demo of Sonic for 360, it was terrible, constantly launching over cliffs.

I'd just like to note here that Neither Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo really have anything to do with the games. SEGA itself is responsible for controls, stories, and graphics, regardless of the system. Thus, there is no reason to believe Secret Rings' storyline will be any better than Sonic '06's just because it's on a Nintendo system.

Frankly, despite being interested in Secret Rings, I'm just as interested in Sonic '06. I see a possible potential for both, and likely will do all in my power to play both.

Also, for Secret Rings I wonder if the controls may have been simplified a bit too much. One demo I saw had the player run into a wall and stop, and it took him about 30 seconds to get Sonic to back up enough to clear the overhang.

Haha guess they focused too much on the graphics..I'm not expecting ANYTHING of Sonic 06 but a good laugh....At Shadow's Emo Face ;D

Originally posted by General Kaliero
I'd just like to note here that Neither Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo really have anything to do with the games. SEGA itself is responsible for controls, stories, and graphics, regardless of the system. Thus, there is no reason to believe Secret Rings' storyline will be any better than Sonic '06's just because it's on a Nintendo system.

Frankly, despite being interested in Secret Rings, I'm just as interested in Sonic '06. I see a possible potential for both, and likely will do all in my power to play both.

Also, for Secret Rings I wonder if the controls may have been simplified a bit too much. One demo I saw had the player run into a wall and stop, and it took him about 30 seconds to get Sonic to back up enough to clear the overhang.

Yes but the machines are property of these people..Hence why Nintendo's Wii has the better controls due to the control system and PS3 and XBOX360 have the over complicated ones

Don't double-post, please.

Why do you think the 360 controls are "overcomplicated"? Jumping, attacking, moving Sonic AND moving the camera are too much for you? Yet take out the camera element (and add another element, which makes the subtraction nil) and suddenly the controls are oh-so-much better?

i agree with you that Heroes, Sonic Adventure 2, and Shadow kinda sagged in the quality department, but i'm still willing to give Sonic '06 a chance, i'm curious to see what psychic abilities Silver is capable of

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Don't double-post, please.

Why do you think the 360 controls are "overcomplicated"? Jumping, attacking, moving Sonic AND moving the camera are too much for you? Yet take out the camera element (and add another element, which makes the subtraction nil) and suddenly the controls are oh-so-much better?

Don't tell me what to do, please. I was fully aware of the double post and the fact i cursed very loudly when the second post was processed.

And how are there more elements just traded =S...There is run and jump in Sonic & The Secret Rings In Sonic 06 various DBZ inspired powerups are used.....-_-;; That's why Sonic And The Secret Rings is "oh so better"

Originally posted by Kayne Archeron
i agree with you that Heroes, Sonic Adventure 2, and Shadow kinda sagged in the quality department, but i'm still willing to give Sonic '06 a chance, i'm curious to see what psychic abilities Silver is capable of

Yeah i say...Give SONIC '06 a chance but if it's crap then don't complain because you know what was discussed about it...I already know the ending and it's crap...

Praytell, why are you equipped with knowledge that no one beyond Sonic Team and the odd previewer should know?

What evidence have you of these "DBZ-inspired" powerups? What I've seen of the game showed essentially SA2 gameplay, the occasional driving level, and Silver's psychic powers, which may be what you're talking about, but I fail to see how picking something up and then throwing it will overcomplicate controls.

And for the record, the things you control in Secret Rings are speeding up, slowing down, jumping, attacking, moving side to side, and unleashing the WildFire.

Unleashing the wild fire is speeding up and slowing down...The running is automatically emulated by the game according to my sources....And DBZ powerups indicating the whole Super Sonic bullcrap that has been repeated throughout the sonic 3d series

I can't wait for this game. I've notice in 3D sonic games you meet an obstacle as soon as you get going or your forced to change characters. Sonic is about speed and this one seems to have plenty of it. Sonic 06 is ok, but do we really need another hedgehog? If they are going to introduce silver they need to kill Shadow,and what happen to knuckles. He use to be almost as fast as sonic, and now he's been reduced to the airheaded muscular type.

I only like my sonic to have 2 D's the third one messes everything up.

The thing I think went wrong with Sonic(besides control and camera, lol) is that it went to this almost anime crap type story. We got like 8 different hedgehogs, and bats and all kinds of crazy shit.

I just want to play as Sonic, I just want to run around.

They are useing charactors from the cartoon.....which is lame.

I like Tails and Knuckles though they are cool.

Dr. Robotniks mean bean mashine still gets played all the time now thats a rockin game. But too bad they quit making good games like that.

Yeah, back in Sonic 3, when it Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles, that was cool. But after that they just got stupid.

Originally posted by AstroFan
Yeah, back in Sonic 3, when it Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles, that was cool. But after that they just got stupid.

I have only played the 3d dreamcast one and it gave me motion sickness and I threw up every ware and I haven't touched a 3d sonic since and I never will.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
I have only played the 3d dreamcast one and it gave me motion sickness and I threw up every ware and I haven't touched a 3d sonic since and I never will.

Originally posted by luffyjin
I'm anticipating alot from this game, as perusual Sony's & Xbox's side of Sonic was....0mglotsographicsncrapstorylinewooooo....Well Nintendo's side have been quite calm as in: Lets take this game back to simple gameplay, minimum storyline and the hog on his own.

I don't know about you but the Wii side of things makes me think more of Sonic...I'm not saying that every SONIC '06 fan is a loser i'm just saying that here is a quick history of 3D Sonic games and how they've stooped:

Sonic Adventure😮ne of the BEST games i will ever play, good start for 3D Sonic and this title will always be in my heart

Sonic Adventure 2: Ouch, big letdown on this game; random story, Emo Hedgehog and Slutty Bat doesn't quite wet my pallete...The Chao had made a big improvement but the Chao alone could not make up for the simply random storyline and glitchy gameplay

Sonic Adventure 2 Battle: Sameish but better graphics and improved controls

Sonic Heroes: Good theory........Crap game (also the first game to go onto xbox and ps2, therefore defiling sonic forever)

Shadow The Hedgehog: Don't know where to start..Good graphics, storyline that got lost up it's own arse and did nothing to explain Shadow's past but complicate it more.
(Second sonic on ps2 and xbox, woah wait a minute is there some kind of pattern to this?)

Sonic Riders: Brilliant comeback but not enough conciderinng it's a spinoff (on ps2 the multiplayer was cut down to 2 player and as far as i know the xbox version was sound, so maybe a break in the pattern of crap multisystem?)

Now a new age is upon us..Next Gen, Sonic 06 will make or break Sonic's future.......But ONLY for PS3 and XBOX360...Nintendo here have done everything right and not one game that's graced their system has been THAT bad...Sonic 06 has gone with the Sonic Adventure 2 approach of introducing new characters (Sonic Riders did it in a bit more of a colourfull way)...I just have a sick feeling to my stomach that Sonic '06 will embarrass him further..

On the other hand, what do we have here? A Sonic game that has a 4 button control system? Right let's delve into that rather than a Lord Of The Rings parody.....Let us strip down a big big 3d Sonic game into the basics:

3D Graphics: Make the graphics as beautiful as you want but it won't change dodgy storyline and/or gameplay..Sonic & The Secret Rings has stripped the story to something simple and accessible rather than confusing and time wasting

Controls:Jump,Run,Change Camera,Various Special Moves,Missions.....**** that, throw all of that away....Run,Jump,Fire meter........Now THAT's stripping it down

There you have why i think that Sonic & The Secret Rings will be successfull over SONIC '06...I mean even the names make it obvious which one is lacking inspiration.....

Thoughts?
Wishes For Secret Rings?
Plans For Storyline Advancements?

Post all of this here

Well Sonic Adventure 2 overall had the best Sonic levels as of 3D. What I didn't like about it was the Tails/Eggman levels.

But I'm getting Sonic 2006 when it comes out just because I'm a Sonic fan but I am waiting for Sonic and the Secret Rings so much because it's just Sonic!

Oh and by the way you can't blame Shadow the Hedgehog on Sonic Team. They had nothing to do with the making of Shadow the Hedgehog. That was all Sega. Sonic Team did not do anything with it.

Originally posted by luffyjin
Unleashing the wild fire is speeding up and slowing down...The running is automatically emulated by the game according to my sources....And DBZ powerups indicating the whole Super Sonic bullcrap that has been repeated throughout the sonic 3d series

every side-scrolling Sonic game has had Super Sonic... it was just harder to get in the classics

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Praytell, why are you equipped with knowledge that no one beyond Sonic Team and the odd previewer should know?

What evidence have you of these "DBZ-inspired" powerups? What I've seen of the game showed essentially SA2 gameplay, the occasional driving level, and Silver's psychic powers, which may be what you're talking about, but I fail to see how picking something up and then throwing it will overcomplicate controls.

Well having the gamescript DOES put me on advantage..When Silver is explained in brackets it says (Think Trunks from DBZ)..If that's not Dragonish enough for you take a look at the script...http://www.sonic-cult.org/newsx/fullnews.php?id=119...As i said..This will most defianatley be a flop..=3