Sparrabeth

I was thinking about this Will and Elizabeth wedding rumour yesterday while watching DMC.Remember there's a scene where the crew of the ship finds Lizzy's wedding dress.They say something like 'it belongs to spirit,who was widowed before her marriage...bla bla bla...and a virgin too.'If it's a foreshadowing for AWE,then even if there is a wedding for them,she would be widowed before her 'marriage',because Will stabs the heart and becomes Captain of the Flying Dutchman.Just a thought,What do you think?

O another idea.If this is true,and there would be a child,it wouldn't be Will's.

Ditte 3: Great analysis! I think you're spot on!

Yes, we will have our Sparrabeth. But please, can we have just one kiss, a really awesome one at that? Come on, Liz gets kissed (she didn't initiate kiss in all 3, by the way)by Will, Sao Feng and Norrie. Not fair!!!!!!!!

I hope for a JE kiss too.And one more idea I have:if this things will be this way about the wedding,it means that if there's really a child,then it wouldn't be Will's.

Sorry I have to go now.I come back later.Have a nice day all of you.

good analyse 🙂
but about child, isn't so early to think about Jack's child?

you know what im looking forward to???

A confrontation moment between jack and liz.
You know, sort of like a peas in a pod scene, when they are on their own and end up talking...because lets face it, theres GOT to be a reason that the lines;

"It would never have worked between us"
"you keep telling yourself that, darlin"

Turned up 🙂
There HAS to have been a conversation somewhere in the film, and i think that THAT conversation is a pivotal moment between jack and liz, because it will tell the audience exactly what is going on.

Also notice;

So elizabeth kisses 3 men BUT jack??

So...if my calculations are correct, then that would mean that she's kissed two men (sao feng and norrie) that really dont mean all that much to her relationship wise ... and then she's kissed Will, whom she loved dearly until everything happened and she started becoming more like a pirate.

The only one in the little square would be jack...the only one that we are not sure what her intentions are towards him...

P.s - When i said that Sao feng and Norrie dont mean much to liz, i meant it in a 'oooh i quite fancy him' type of way lol.

She quite freely kisses men that she feels no real attachment to in AWE.
And yet she won't kiss the one man who sends her heart racing.....

AHHHH SPARRABETH!!!!! 😄😄😄😄😄

Well said T.Maria.You're absolutely right.She must kiss Jack.and not just alittle kiss,but a passionate one.

yup, yup
but it could kill Will, if he saw it

Girls, I'm still here...but so busy right now no time to get one..but just this one moment. I love everything you are all saying...I think we are getting a Sparrabeth ending...I'm 99.9% sure......confident. I knew all those clues and symbols meant something, no way t and t would put all that is there as just fillers. and no way would jack ever be a bump in the road, cuz after all, he is Pirates of the Carribean...thus..it ties in with Lizzy's battle speech.."we are the Pirates of the Carribean".....

and TMaria, my dear friend, you are so right...that line "it would never have worked between us" has to mean something...it's pivotal......

and the "widowed before her marriage, searching for her husband lost at sea"..it means somehting....

if there is a child, it's going to be Jack's.

the liz will kiss of him looking like he's capt of the fd already..that's goodbye...just as jack is saying goodbye to gibbs....it's all coming together my friends.....

Originally posted by Minie Mina
Ha, never seen it. But it could go something like that.

I have to admit, the real fan girl in me wants a kiss and for them to admit their feelings.

But, Im going to have to be a bit realistic. Who knows on what they have in stores for us.

But knowing that they will be together--or at least having the mission that they want to be together, Jack chasing after Elizabeth, is good enoug for me.

Oh Mina i suppose they´ll do the kiss 😄 coz where it was...ehmm...i think in one interview with jerry or was it a clip??...i don´t know but there was told something that "elizabeth will admit true feelings for SPARROW,barbossa and her estrangled fiancee will..." or soemthing like that i don´t know where and i am not sure if it really was jerry...But i´m sure it was this sentence 🙂
So...i doubt her true feelings for jack will be that bad or just bad for us 😄 i think it will be their happiness,their love...

...And BTW did you,ladies, notice in that clip elizabeth´s smile on her face after jack tell her keep telling yourself that darling..???did you notice it??? i take it as really GREAT forshadowing or how to name it 😄

Will and Liz may marry, but how many movies have we seen where weddings get interrupted, marriages fall apart, someone dies, etc. A marriage between Will and Liz means nothing. Keep in mind, imdb had Keira's screen credit for DMC as Elizabeth Turner for a long, long time. People on the imdb message board were seriously wondering if they would get a wedding in DMC, and they did, but it was interrupted and for now, Elizabeth is still Elizabeth Swann.

I don't know for a fact how the movie will end or who will be with who, but these rumors don't really hold up until we all actually see the movie. Leaked scripts and "inside" information, even from T&T, can be misleading, purposely vague, and even sometimes wrong.

i noticed. and i´m so looking forward to see what happens after that smile...! but i still don´t think there will be a sparrabeth ending. (you can tell me i may be wrong, i HOPE i am!!!🙂) let´s face the fact the two movies were made together, so the producers did not have the time to see the great sparrabeth development, all the awsome reactions of the audience. i think none of them even thought of that. when they did, it was probably too late to chance something that great... i think they made up that "willabeth" story right from the start, let them struggle to have a great tragedy in the end. somehow i think will and liz will get closer in the end after that whole jealously thing. but, as mentioned, i hope i´m wrong!!!! SPARRABETHHHHH 🏴‍☠️

change....^^

Originally posted by Djinn
i noticed. and i´m so looking forward to see what happens after that smile...! but i still don´t think there will be a sparrabeth ending. (you can tell me i may be wrong, i HOPE i am!!!🙂) let´s face the fact the two movies were made together, so the producers did not have the time to see the great sparrabeth development, all the awsome reactions of the audience. i think none of them even thought of that. when they did, it was probably too late to chance something that great... i think they made up that "willabeth" story right from the start, let them struggle to have a great tragedy in the end. somehow i think will and liz will get closer in the end after that whole jealously thing. but, as mentioned, i hope i´m wrong!!!! SPARRABETHHHHH 🏴‍☠️

i hope you´re wrong as well 😄 well but i think they really wanted it willabeth we know everything that was said was good for willabeth but...then in december it started to be a bit different and then people´s choice awards they had to notice it and i suppose they went at least once to see a forum or forums to see audience´s reactions... they simply must see it... i still hope SPARRABETH and i also think it will be sparrabeth coz even though most of the movie will be will and liz´s the end STILL can be sparrabeth i heard this about the wedding w/l but still, it doesn´t have to be true...i hope it isn´t...anyway,i believe in JL we all believe so much, it would be stupid at least coz we all had the faith all the time(almost) and i think we deserve OUR ENDING!!!common girls, it will be JL!!!!

The best thing would have been to write two, possibly three endings and the sparrabethers would get their ending and we could live in blissful ignorance of any W/E or N/E ending out there.

willabeth would be soooo boring. i mean, come ON! how often did we have an ending like this... hero and his pretty girl, that SUCKS! there needs to be more! sparrabeth is exciting, forbidden, hot and new!
people from disney, if you read this: WE WANT SPARRABETH!!!! 🤨
😛 sorry, this words needed to be said! i also want to say that this is a very sparrabeth-friendly forum. i´ve read through others which were quite aggressive, so i´m happy to have such nice people like you around ladys🙂

I was reading a magazine today and they had "Hot couples in summer movies" i think it was and they had Orli and Keira. (I immediately gagged when i saw it) They had a hot meter in the form of 4 lips and they got all four lips... I gagged again....

just thinking about the child it can't be Will's if the wedding rumor is true it happens during the battle no time to play.

Also people they may be married but Will is going to be COTFD he is immortal and liz is not. Lizzie is not going to wait every ten years to see him. Also he carves his heart out how is he going to be feeling anything with no heart?

I think the only solution to the problem is to put lizzie in the right hands. Well who saved Will's life? Who also loves Elizabeth like him? Who is a good man and is a pirate just like lizzie? Well.. there is only one man i can think of for the perfect replacement. His name starts with a J and his last name is Sparrow.

I think we will get our ending we must not lose hope. W/E might get married but i think Jack and lizzie will end together in the end. Remember how ted or terry said one of them said how lizzie does end up with somebody but it was not her choice? I think Will putting Lizzie in Jacks hands makes good sense.

Ick, Iheartpocky, I think I've seen that and remember going, "What were they thinking?" They obviously haven't seen the same POTC series we have.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
Ick, Iheartpocky, I think I've seen that and remember going, "What were they thinking?" They obviously haven't seen the same POTC series we have.

Yup Yup. Ick. 🙂

Grr, I saw the new clips you posted. Sound was off for now, but I saw them, and I'm going to vent. Disclaimer: I love T&T, and I love Will, and I will be happy just to see this movie. This is just venting.

Why do the writers insist on a pairing where we never see them together?! If you watch COTBP and DMC, I can bet anything that Elizabeth spends more time with Jack than she does with Will, THEREFORE they have more time to interact with one another and most importantly, DEVELOP through one another.

COTBP
Will and Liz's first scene: Introduces Will, shows Elizabeth is glad to see him, implies it's been a while since they've seen each other. Will is a nervous wreck around her and he actually makes things worse between them.

Jack and Liz's first scene: Mostly a catalyst to get the medallion in the water and to establish Jack is not your average heartless pirate. We've already established he rescued her just because he's a good person. Probably the same amount of exchange between her and Will, granted, but establishes chemistry and a sort of yin-yang between them. He saved her, she (in a way) saved him.

Will and Liz's next scene: Will gets her back onto the boat and bandages her and in the original version (so I've heard), it's much hotter than what we saw. Will supposedly pushes her against a wall and makes out with her or something to that effect. But let's stick to what we have (and wonder why they cut out chemistry between the "couple."😉 A lot of information is revealed here. Will learns Liz used his name and she demures a little and is visibly turned on by his touch. He learns she took the medallion and she admits she did it to save him.
- So we establish a pattern among their relationship. Liz does something unorthodox with good intentions, Will gets mad.
- Will laments a little about his dad being a pirate and the undead pirates needing his blood. Liz says she's sorry and begs him to forgive her. Another pattern: Liz does not show concern about Will's emotional well-being. She shows concern for his physical well-being.

Jack and Liz's next scene: A lot was cut out of the rum-runner's island scene. Probably for time purposes. So we'll stick to canon. We learn so much about Jack here, such as not all his impressive stories are true. Either out of obligation or frustration or both, Jack tells her the truth and she decides to get him wasted so he'll be out of her way as she builds a signal. In the morning, Jack goes nuts and considers shooting her. (start laughing) So, Jack also admits why he loves the Pearl so much. It's his freedom. Liz, although still trying to get him drunker, seems to understand. In the next interaction, it does show a contrast between them but shows her coming into her own. We know she is capable of taking control of a situation. This doesn't happen with Will. We know Jack is capable of losing it and being left completley out of control of a situation.

Trio together at the end: A lot of life-saving, brilliant sword-fighting and a goodbye. We are meant to love Will and Liz together even though he didn't see any of her growth and she didn't see any of his.

DMC

Will and Liz's first scene + jail scene: Will is sweet, I'll admit. The first scene establishes the whole plot line and theme of the movie. Helping Jack makes life difficult for Will and Liz. We jumped from a sweet little couple to a couple that was about to become one flesh. I would have loved to see what happened in between. A year has passed, remember. In the jail, we sense Liz's sexual frustration and Will's focus on a mission. This doesn't make him cold, but establishes a pattern yet again. He went on a mission to save her before, and he never was actually the one to save her.

Jack and Liz reunited: Hell, I don't know what to make of this compass scene. Some say they are flirting, others say it's more of a magic trick in that Jack's dressing it up a little. Either way, there is a lot of smiling, a lot of intimacy here. This can be interpreted as the two of them not being able to help themselves. I doubt Johnny and Keira played it wrong, so they knew what they were doing. Keep in mind, the film has already established Liz is on Jack's mind and has had romantic thoughts about her.

They continue their interaction with Persuasion, Curiosity, and digging at the Isla de Cruces.

Will and Liz back: They work well as a team. Life is good, kraken is beaten off for now. Will and Liz work well together, okay. The writers want to know how so many people miss that about them. Zuh? Other than the end of COTBP, this is the only time they've worked together on anything.

There you have it.