Originally posted by Kinneary
Because those born a few kilometers south were born in a different country. A different country a few kilometers south or a few thousand kilometers west are no different. They're sovereign entities.
And why shouldn't the government just choose the best people and throw out those that were by chance born on their soil?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Not really. You think being born in a country should somehow mean shit. And that you shoul discriminate against poor people that did not have the luck that you had. Well, that's idiotic.
Being born here DOES give you special rights. The same way being born in Holland will give you special rights, or being born in China will give you special rights. You make this sound as if it's simple American arrogance, where you'll find many other countries with much more stringent immigration laws, and even harsher naturalization processes.
Originally posted by Bardock42
...while only clean and smart white US people should have rights and live in decent conditions (well..those US citizens that do at least).
Quit making this into something that it isn't. The US lets quite a few legal immigrants into the country each year, most of whom are
Mexican and something I support. However we are not obligated to take care of the entire country of Mexico, something we are basically doing.
Originally posted by Kinneary
Discriminate? Last time I checked, we do allow immigration. Just not unchecked and unlimited immigration. This country cannot support an unending flow of immigrants. Should we allow anyone at all into the country? Murderers, drug dealers, rapists, people with no skill in any particular trade who will merely be an additional burden on society?Being born here DOES give you special rights. The same way being born in Holland will give you special rights, or being born in China will give you special rights. You make this sound as if it's simple American arrogance, where you'll find many other countries with much more stringent immigration laws, and even harsher naturalization processes.
No, this is not about American arrogance. Generally I think it is a mistake. In Germany as well. I do not see why I have more rights in Germany then someone who moves here (legally or illegally). It is just land. We should stop thinking in country terms anyways.
And are you implying that most ilegal immigrants are rapist, murderers and the like? That is quite ridiculous.
No, this is not about American arrogance. Generally I think it is a mistake. In Germany as well. I do not see why I have more rights in Germany then someone who moves here (legally or illegally). It is just land.
And if you just let anyone into the country, how do you moniter that person? How do you make sure the 5,000 people who arrived last week are going to be able to support themselves? How do you ensure that they're not going to become a burden on the taxpayer? How do you know that they'll strive for anything more than a part-time job and welfare? How do you make sure they're going to pay taxes? How do you know they're not, as cliche as it sounds (but as real as the threat is), terrorists?
Why should someone who just arrived from Spain be allowed to vote for the President of the United States? Why should my tax dollars go to Hernandez buying his kids Oreos at the local grocery store when he doesn't even pay taxes and came into the country soley because the American government can support his family better than the Mexican government can? At what point do we say 'There are too many people coming here"?
And are you implying that most ilegal immigrants are rapist, murderers and the like? That is quite ridiculous.
Re: British Laws!
Originally posted by Blue DragonThat is so untrue. And by looking at some other things you've said, it looks like this has been told to you by your parents or brothers, and by your tone it's like you're having a bad day. Also, your post screams biased opinion.
If laws were much more strict & tough, there would be hardly any crime. Depending on how much crime there is depends on how bad the conciquences are, which is like [b]duh! They are all blind! [/B]
Re: British Laws!
Originally posted by Blue DragonI had a re-skim and this part is absolutely stupid.
Animal rights have to be sorted out too! Fox hunting should be banned altogehter & if caught doing it, arrested on sight! No more animal testing either, it's sick! You test on an animal.....why? Who ever says because they aren't as important as us, why aren't they? Give reasons, or can't you back up your opinion?
We test on animals to cure diseases like menigitus, chicken pox, in-fact, EVERY cure for a disease to this day came to be through animal testing. Don't believe me? Ask your science teacher. We're continuing animal testing to cre AIDS and cancer. Do you want to cure AIDS and cancer Blue Dragon?
Originally posted by LanaMy guess is this guy is fundamentally mistaken. Which is kinda bad for thew British population to know that people like him are here.
I tried to read the first post of this thread, but gave up after I realized a few lines in that it could be summed up as "whaaaaaa I don't know shit about the real world!"
Everyone's always saying how they'd like to make Britian a better & safer place to be aren't they. At this rate, none of use will live after 30 because we'll either get stabbed, shot or blown up & none of us want that, so as for me, I'm outta here & I'll never look back on Britain again. I will turn away & will never look back to see if it's gotten better. It's too late now & Britain won't last much longer.
I will just assume that you don't realize that Britain is actually one of the safest countries in the world.
You have a higher chance of being the victim of a violent crime in every other country except Japan, Sweden and Switzerland. There might be a fourth but I forget.
Originally posted by Mr. SandmanIceland?
I will just assume that you don't realize that Britain is actually one of the safest countries in the world.You have a higher chance of being the victim of a violent crime in every other country except Japan, Sweden and Switzerland. There might be a fourth but I forget.
Not many votes on the poll.
Originally posted by Fishy
That's brilliant live in a country with no laws and you'll have no crime.
Originally posted by Fishy
Because everybody in the government is stupid, we all know that. They can't think don't have a lot of things to deal with and logical thinking of some random person would of course make everything better. Do you honestly believe running a country is easy?
Originally posted by Fishy
Is that why the Crime Rate in the US which has harder punishments laws then the UK is higher? Is that why people still commit crimes in Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan, Mexico? Harder punishments don't work, they don't stop crime at all...
Originally posted by Fishy
I can agree with the fine, but prison time for not recycling? What's next execution for jay walking?
Originally posted by Fishy
Okay wait? Buses come every two minutes? But you have to wait an hour if you miss one? I'm confused? But if you mean an hour until you can get back where you live? Get a car, get a bike or stop complaining that you live far away from the rest of society.
To get where I live, our bus comes every hour on the hour. If we miss it, we have to do something for another hour before getting the next one. Sometimes it's even late by half an hour!
Originally posted by Fishy
I'm sure somebody wanted it, otherwise they wouldn't have build it. The builders at least or the designers at the very least liked it.
Originally posted by Fishy
Drama Queen... But fine go ahead leave, I'm sure you will find a lot of safer country's out there... Like Afghanistan, Iraq...
Originally posted by Fishy
I can agree with the fox hunting thing, but do you want to test new medication on humans right away? There are literally a billion things that could go wrong and animal testing heavily limits that, if we stop animal testing you would soon have a world were people will die to test out medication that isn't even supposed to cure something important. If Animal testing stops medical progress will stop.
And I only mean really really bad people, like murderous psycho paths & rapists. If they've done the bad things, not the animals. Why would you test on an animal? Because it isn't human? Not on your life!
Besides, they aren't the same as use when it comes to bodies. They have different genetics to us, so it might not do same affect to us.
But now, I see no reason to test on anyone. Enough is enough & is should stop. They don't even benefit from it! What about products that aren't tested on animas? They get through without it, so why not everyone else?
Originally posted by Fishy
Who? What? Why? Where? I'm confused...
Originally posted by Fishy
And you're complaining about this in the same post as your complaining that you don't have enough shopping time? That should equal each other out right? Two trollies less time to shop. And sale makes things cheaper, you should be happy those things exist. Unless you want to start complaining about paying to much for clothes and food and what not.
Originally posted by Trickster
Hear hear.Blue Dragon, you're either ignorant or very easily influenced. I'm not actually sure where you got most of that information, since it seems very flawed, at best.
Originally posted by Gregory
Oh man, you're just so cute! It's almost enough to make me forget that you're a dispicable monster who wants to torture people!But, uh, not quite.
Originally posted by The Pict
Nah. We're pretty smart. The world has a lot to thank Britain for.
Originally posted by lord xyz
That is so untrue. And by looking at some other things you've said, it looks like this has been told to you by your parents or brothers, and by your tone it's like you're having a bad day. Also, your post screams biased opinion.
Originally posted by lord xyz
My guess is this guy is fundamentally mistaken. Which is kinda bad for thew British population to know that people like him are here.
Originally posted by lord xyz
I had a re-skim and this part is absolutely stupid.We test on animals to cure diseases like menigitus, chicken pox, in-fact, EVERY cure for a disease to this day came to be through animal testing. Don't believe me? Ask your science teacher. We're continuing animal testing to cre AIDS and cancer. Do you want to cure AIDS and cancer Blue Dragon?
Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
I will just assume that you don't realize that Britain is actually one of the safest countries in the world.You have a higher chance of being the victim of a violent crime in every other country except Japan, Sweden and Switzerland. There might be a fourth but I forget.
Britain is so unsafe that thousands or even millions of Britains of all ages will not go out at night, including me. Also some want to move away, like me. I don't blame them. Good on them!
Originally posted by Mr. SandmanHolland's not as safe as you might think. There are a lot of guns about...
Maybe. Maybe Holland. I really don't remember.
Originally posted by Blue DragonMostly because your post made about as much sense as a Rabbit humping a Turkey.
Not many votes on the poll.
Originally posted by Blue DragonDo not kill, Do not rape, Do go over 3 mph on a local road, Do not drink and drive, Do not steal, Do not do drugs... These laws are bad to you?
What? No, that's not what I meant. How did you come up with that? 😕 If you thought I meant no laws when I said 'petit laws' then no. I meant don't have petit laws but have good ones.
Originally posted by Blue DragonYou think too much of the government.
No, I don't, but they know how to. They're the ones running the country & making designs. They know what to do. They can't just do it, I know. They discuss it & come to agreements. That sort of thing. But if you're going to run a country, run it properly!
Originally posted by Blue DragonObviously you have no idea how criminals think. Did you know that prostitution in the middle east is punishable by death, murder in the US is punishable by death. Using your logic that would mean no one is a prostitute in the middle east, and no one murders in the US. But that's completely untrue. There are. And quite alot actually.
Tick tock, tick tock...of course harder punishments will decrease crime. If you were a criminal, you know the consequences if you're caught. If it's really really bad, you might not [b]do it. If it's not that bad, you'll think "What the hell? If I'm caught, I'll be out in 1/4 of the time!" [/B]
Originally posted by Blue DragonThe times that's happened is about the same as than the number of needles found in hay stacks.
I only mean for a couple of days. Two weeks, how's that? After being in there, they won't like it & do as they're told.
Originally posted by Blue DragonJust unlucky I guess.
Where I live, yes. One bus that goes to the same place comes about every two minutes & sometimes at the same time. They're long buses too & since they come so often, you get about one person on it each time. The most I've seen on one bus was about five, on a big bus like that! Why!?To get where I live, our bus comes every hour on the hour. If we miss it, we have to do something for another hour before getting the next one. Sometimes it's even late by half an hour!
Originally posted by Blue DragonMaybe you have a shit town council.
Not at all. At our clock tower, they built this thing, dunno what exactly...they got rid of the road at was there & put a pavement down & benches. Nearly everyone complained about it because it looks awful! Hardly anyone uses it, I mean there's nothing there really, just benches. Total waste of money!
Originally posted by Blue DragonHow about US, they'll give you everything you need, cocaine, a gun, ammo and a T shirt that says "Everyone sucks but me."
No way...
Originally posted by Blue Dragon
Yes, why not? If you knew that was coming if you got caught & arrested, you wouldn't do what you would have done.
And I only mean really really bad people, like murderous psycho paths & rapists. If they've done the bad things, not the animals. Why would you test on an animal? Because it isn't human? Not on your life!
Besides, they aren't the same as use when it comes to bodies. They have different genetics to us, so it might not do same affect to us.
But now, I see no reason to test on anyone. Enough is enough & is should stop. They don't even benefit from it! What about products that aren't tested on animas? They get through without it, so why not everyone else?[/B][/QUOTE] Like I said, you don't understand animal testing.
Originally posted by Blue DragonI think no-one gets it. Squirt what in their eyes? What the **** are you talking about? Are two questions I'd like to ask.
What's up with you? Don't you get it?
Originally posted by Blue DragonProblem much?
Noooo....they just shop for things they don't even need. Sales like everyday from same place, why? Makes them look foolish & everyone makes jokes about it, even Ronnie Colbert. He said something like, "I remember it was that day because it was the day DFS didn't have a sale."
Originally posted by Blue DragonLooks like it.
My information is true, why else would I say it? I must have got it from somewhere, I can't just make this stuff up you know...
Originally posted by Blue DragonConsidering that every place with a higher punishment of a crime has a higher rate of the crime, makes your statement wrong. For e.g. US states with the death penalty have more crime than US states without the death penalty. In China you're punished very severely, and they have more crime than us. You are very wrong... and stupid.
How is it? Bigger punishment = less crime. No?
Originally posted by Blue DragonWell, that explains alot.
Not mistaken & why do people always think I'm male, I'm not.
Originally posted by Blue DragonNothing, but we still have to test on animals. We need cures for the diseases to save all the other animals. It's like a sacrafice that wasn't volunteered.
Yes, but not by testing on animals. What have they done to deserve it...?
Originally posted by Blue DragonYou believe that? 😆 You're actually scared? 😂 You're serious? crylaugh
You what!? Britain...safe!? Do you recall the London Bus & Underground being blown up by terrorists? It even said on the news that Britain is a target now for terrorists & that's why I'm out!
Originally posted by Blue DragonSo untrue....It's comical.
Britain is so unsafe that thousands or even millions of Britains of all ages will not go out at night, including me. Also some want to move away, like me. I don't blame them. Good on them!