Great Evil Beast vs. Living Tribunal, THOTU and Phoenix Force

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually I disagree,

In Marvel atleast there are different levels of Infinity.

Just read the scans, and you'll see clearly how there can be more Infinitude than Infinity:

This is how Marvel, the company that creates these characters measures INFINITY

"Thus are demonstrated TWO LEVELS of Infinity, there are of course, an INFINITE number MORE"

😕 well thats pretty messed up and well since its on panel i guess there's no arguing about that, wouldn't it be safe to assume that this so called infinity is jut part of the greater never ending and therefore just a part of one infinity.

Originally posted by King Kandy
just to drive the point home, If GEB's power is represented by X, and so is the Presences (Since they are equal)

X+X=2X.

The sum is larger then both halves.

Although i am a little skeptical about Mr M explanation of infinity in marvel but lets say your right wouldnt that only hold true for marvel and not DC where the great evil beast comes from. And besides were are you going with this it still doesnt explain how THOTU beats the GEB?

Originally posted by Supreme being
😕 well thats pretty messed up and well since its on panel i guess there's no arguing about that, wouldn't it be safe to assume that this so called infinity is jut part of the greater never ending and therefore just a part of one infinity.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I find it interesting that Eternity and Infinity are on the same level as LT in that scan.

I'm assuming it's their multiversal counterparts.

Does that mean that they are all on the same level ? ❌

Originally posted by Supreme being
And besides were are you going with this it still doesnt explain how THOTU beats the GEB?

LT> then the UN and the IG, which are both Multiversal in nature (both have affected the Multiverse on pannel).

Thanos /w/ THOTU has destroyed and recreated the Multiverse and everything in it, on pannel.

The GEB has never done anything to that scale on pannel

Originally posted by Galan777
Based on feats alone, Thanos /w/ THOTU, and LT take this easily.......(both have affected the Multiverse on pannel).

LT> then the UN and the IG, which are both Multiversal in nature

Thanos /w/ THOTU has destroyed and recreated the Multiverse and everything in it, on pannel.

The GEB has never done anything to that scale on pannel

Based on feats alone Ion>>>> GEB but i am assuming the thread starter is allowing a little leeway otherwise he wouldn't have made this thread.

Besides GEB brushed the spectre away like he was nothing i would like to see tribunal do the same.

Originally posted by sexyking
Based on feats alone Ion>>>> GEB but i am assuming the thread starter is allowing a little leeway otherwise he wouldn't have made this thread.

Besides GEB brushed the spectre away like he was nothing i would like to see tribunal do the same.

Ok, then if someone thought Prof. X could beat Flash in a footrace, then it counts as fact, even though it has never been proven on pannel?

Feats are all I'm going by here, and I'll take the character with the feats that back up claims made about them, rather then another characters power that is only based on claims alone.

Originally posted by Supreme being
Although i am a little skeptical about Mr M explanation of infinity in marvel but lets say your right wouldnt that only hold true for marvel and not DC where the great evil beast comes from. And besides were are you going with this it still doesnt explain how THOTU beats the GEB?

So THOTU>GEB.

Who in sam hill are the Great Evil Beasts??

Originally posted by norrinradd43
Who in sam hill are the Great Evil Beasts??

Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix Force shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as the Living Tribunal.

Phoenix is a joke in comparison.

Proof that PF is joke in comparison to LT.

Logicaly, Great Evil Beast could be stopped only by TOAA, nothing else.
Now if THOTU has such power, than THOTU should take GEB down, other two no.

In DCU GEB supposeldy is eqaul to The Presence, whil TOAA has no equal. So that should mean that TOAA=The Presence+ GEB.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Proof that PF is joke in comparison to LT.

LT snuffed out the power of the IG like it was nothing.

The IG>then the UN which in the hands of Reed Richards, destroyed and remade the Multiverse. Yet, LT is more powerful then that as well.

LT also gave Surfer "a moment of Godhood", and transformed him into a universe.

I bet you can't provide a pannel of the Phoenix doing ANYTHING close to this.

Originally posted by Galan777
Do you have proof that Phoenix isn't a joke in comparison?

LT snuffed out the power of the IG like it was nothing.

The IG>then the UN which in the hands of Reed Richards, destroyed and remade the Multiverse. Yet, LT is more powerful then that as well.

LT also gave Surfer "a moment of Godhood", and transformed him into a universe.

I bet you can't provide a pannel of the Phoenix doing ANYTHING close to this.

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Anyway, LT and PF are irrelevant, since Thanos has their energy.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well, since The presence and GEB both possess energy, then THOTU, which is the total of ALL energy, would have the energy of both of them.

So THOTU>GEB.

🤨 🤨 🤨 THOTU is an artifact and therefore was made by someone, unless in marvel artifacts just happen to come into existence by themselves. So going by the fact THOTU was created we can only guess by TOAA who is equal to the Presence who in turn is .... well i will leave the rest for you to figure out.

TOAA is not equal to the presence. TOAA is at least as powerful as the presence, and GEB.

Unlike the presence, TOAA has no outside forces that may act on it. there is nothing that does not spring from TOAA.

The presence, however, has outside powers. It has energy that does not come from it, therefore, is a inferior entity to TOAA.

Originally posted by King Kandy
TOAA is not equal to the presence. TOAA is at least as powerful as the presence, and GEB.

Unlike the presence, TOAA has no outside forces that may act on it. there is nothing that does not spring from TOAA.

The presence, however, has outside powers. It has energy that does not come from it, therefore, is a inferior entity to TOAA.

🙄 I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, In blatant terms what your basically saying now is Marvel>>>>DC.

Originally posted by Supreme being
🙄 I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, In blatant terms what your basically saying now is Marvel>>>>DC.

But whereas in DC the energy is devided into seperate pieces, in Marvel it is all one.

Originally posted by Supreme being
🙄 I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, In blatant terms what your basically saying now is Marvel>>>>DC.

IMO this is the greatest evidence we have that the DCU's God is in some way flawed.

I believe that their powers might be equal, but Marvel's TOAA has not shown such an imperfection to date.