Originally posted by Scoobless
Spider-Man was a reserve Avenger from ages ago.
I know....and it's hard to explain, maybe it's just me.
But he doesn't feel like an avenger....
Anyways, speaking of Spiderman and back on topic: I recently read the first thirty issues of Ult. Spiderman, because everyone here was raving about it, so I figured I'd give it a second try.
It was pretty good. I dunno if I'd absolutely say that it's better than ASM, but still better than I gave it credit for before.
Originally posted by Grimm22
That and take out Spidey, Wolverine, and Strange's gay cousinOh and Luke Cage sure as hell shouldn't be the leader of the team
Honestly, Wolverine's even more of a leader than Cage
Let's see, Pym's pro-reg so he's definetly going to be joining New Avengers and I'm glad he's finally got his groove going on over in the Intiative and hopefully when/if he joins Mighty Avengers.
Luke Cage as a leader? I didn't mind that too much to be honest, he isn't the smartest of peoples but he has something in common with Cap moreso than anybody else on that team (albeit maybe Wolverine) he knows what's right and won't stand for anything less.
Wolverine and Spidey on the team don't fit if you think of it as THE AVENGERS, but I don't, theres a hole different dynamic to the team and I enjoy it much more than the previous New Avengers. The hole niche about the New Avengers is that they are new and improved (in a way), if you stop comparing them to Avengers just because that's their name then they are quite a good team actually. I think of New Avengers much more as Avengers for standing for the right (with the hole CW fiasco, IMO they are the good guys) but the Mighty Avengers have a much more Avengerish line-up and the villains they face seem to be more Avenger-ish too.
Strange? He's been pretty cool as of yet, but the whole spider-man fingers when he's casting spells has annoyed me a little and the hole needing to meditate when he's never needed to before. I can see him getting played down alot to fit on this book, he has been so far aswell. They probably could of sent him on his own to take down the ninja's and save Maya realistcally. Another thing that irked me a little, is that they had Wong seem so rude and he suddenly got really fat. If everybody had read Dr.Strange: The Oath they would of seen a much skinnier more peer-ish Wong that I much preffered IMO.
I'm pleased with the two contrasting Avengers title, I just want to see how the third one (Intiative) fits into the status quo aswell.
how the hell can you sit there and tell me there not avenegers? Why what makes them not avengers?
also wolverine been revered to as legend in comic since he pritty much came out.........
also spiderman is marvels golden boy not wolverine..........
honestly how is spiderman not an aveneger? He been on the team for years and years.
Both Wolverine and Doc strange were defenders..........
Also wolverine as an avenger makes a whole lot more sense thena defender.......
Originally posted by willRules
Fair enough, I personally loved the storyline, I'm just slightly concerned that it will be hard to present story lines like Iron-man again without him looking like a bit of a villain ✅
i used to love iron man... 🙁
Originally posted by Soljer
But he doesn't feel like an avenger....
my thoughts exactly... or feelings... or something...
Originally posted by capt it up
how the hell can you sit there and tell me there not avenegers? Why what makes them not avengers?
they arent cap, hawkeye, pym, stark, thor, vision, wasp etc...
also wolverine been revered to as legend in comic since he pritty much came out.........
if i call you a legend nonstop does that make you one? 😛
also spiderman is marvels golden boy not wolverine..........
if he was he'd be in as many comics as logan... i mean, how many comics did logan show up in during civil war?
Originally posted by capt it up
wolverines more of a leader then most people..........
that's like saying i'm more irish than most people... except the fact that there are about four million irish people...
there are plenty of people who are more leaders than he is as there are people he's a better leader than...
Originally posted by pr1983
i used to love iron man... 🙁
I still do, it's just sometimes I look at this...........
http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=23701&mode=search
And all I see is this..............
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1anschluss.gif
.............that's right, I'm more of an anti-reg person ✅
Originally posted by willRules
I still do, it's just sometimes I look at this...........http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=23701&mode=search
And all I see is this..............
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1anschluss.gif
.............that's right, I'm more of an anti-reg person ✅
i was always anti reg... cyclops himself could be pro reg and i still wouldnt support it...
Originally posted by pr1983
i used to love iron man... 🙁my thoughts exactly... or feelings... or something...
they arent cap, hawkeye, pym, stark, thor, vision, wasp etc...
if i call you a legend nonstop does that make you one? 😛
if he was he'd be in as many comics as logan... i mean, how many comics did logan show up in during civil war?
that's like saying i'm more irish than most people... except the fact that there are about four million irish people...
there are plenty of people who are more leaders than he is
as there are people he's a better leader than...
so no the avengers can only have on roster? You seem to think that becuase they are not capt and hawlk they can not be avengers? do you even know how many rosters of avengers there have been?
Logan done a lot more then hawlk eye........
Spiderman is in more comics then wolevrine........spiderman has three titles just about him.......... Logan was in civil war wolverine and he showed up in civil war issue one.
spiderman was in his own civil war titles plus all through out civil war.....
using civil war as your arguements it pritty dumb since spiderman was a key figure and wolverine was not........
they are alot more people who wolverine is better at leading then vice versa..........
Originally posted by capt it up
[B]so no the avengers can only have on roster? You seem to think that becuase they are not capt and hawlk they can not be avengers? do you even know how many rosters of avengers there have been?
yes, i do... but there's a core to every team... the x-men always have cyclops or xavier, the f4 always have sue or reed (until now, but thats total bs), and the avengers have maybe two or three of those i listed, yet this team has NONE... every team has a core, a base few members who are needed... even in dc the jla and jsa are the same... any two or three of the ones i mentioned could be on that team, and then it'd be the avengers...
Logan done a lot more then hawlk eye........
in the proper context?
Spiderman is in more comics then wolevrine........spiderman has three titles just about him.......... Logan was in civil war wolverine and he showed up in civil war issue one.
he has three because for years spidey was a solo hero... logan has for the better part of his life been on a team... at one point he was on all 3 x-men teams, the new avengers and had his own series...
spiderman was in his own civil war titles plus all through out civil war.....
logan wasn't in several civil war books?
using civil war as your arguements it pritty dumb since spiderman was a key figure and wolverine was not........
it was a small example, look at house of m if you want to instead...
they are alot more people who wolverine is better at leading then vice versa..........
i wouldn't say its exactly a huge margin given his nature to be honest...
Originally posted by pr1983
yes, i do... but there's a core to every team... the x-men always have cyclops or xavier, the f4 always have sue or reed (until now, but thats total bs), and the avengers have maybe two or three of those i listed, yet this team has NONE... every team has a core, a base few members who are needed... even in dc the jla and jsa are the same... any two or three of the ones i mentioned could be on that team, and then it'd be the avengers...
Originally posted by pr1983
in the proper context?
Originally posted by pr1983
he has three because for years spidey was a solo hero... logan has for the better part of his life been on a team... at one point he was on all 3 x-men teams, the new avengers and had his own series...
Spiderman had all three of his solo issues, plus new avengers plus spiderman classic. Also spiderman is the most popular character in marvel he there cash cow……
Originally posted by pr1983
logan wasn't in several civil war books?
Originally posted by pr1983
it was a small example, look at house of m if you want to instead...
Originally posted by pr1983
i wouldn't say its exactly a huge margin given his nature to be honest...
