Nate Grey & Psylocke VS Proteus & Cable

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Originally posted by guy222
aren't the mutants celestial creation 😉

😕 GOOD QUESTION

Originally posted by python99
😕 GOOD QUESTION

I am never confused. Celestials created the mutants. Nate/Betsy ftw

still too close

Originally posted by python99
still too close

Can I ask u, who's tougher? Proteus or Cable

in terms of what?
Mutant powers or strength.
Can I ask you a question can Proteus take on Appocolypse?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Jamie Braddock is imo more powerful than Proteus and he rewrote the quantum strings of Psylocke's being to be immune to reality manipulation, so she should remain unaffected by Proteus.

From what you just said there MJJ should be able to do jack about her.

Plus don't forget that he probably isn't going to reality warp her but more likely the surrounding to his advantage. He can take on psylocke fairly easy in my openion.

As for Nate Grey vs Cable tough very tough infact, they are basically the same, but with different opbringings, but Cable has a advantage in him being slightly more experienced then Nate Grey, which is why I give the edge to Cable its not much maybe a 5.1/10 nearly nothing just the small things between them that will make the difference.

Originally posted by Utrigita
From what you just said there MJJ should be able to do jack about her.

Plus don't forget that he probably isn't going to reality warp her but more likely the surrounding to his advantage. He can take on psylocke fairly easy in my openion.

As for Nate Grey vs Cable tough very tough infact, they are basically the same, but with different opbringings, but Cable has a advantage in him being slightly more experienced then Nate Grey, which is why I give the edge to Cable its not much maybe a 5.1/10 nearly nothing just the small things between them that will make the difference.

Well said

Originally posted by python99
in terms of what?
Mutant powers or strength.
Can I ask you a question can Proteus take on Appocolypse?

Yes. Strength and powers

Yes. I admire Apoc. Proteus may be more powerful

Originally posted by Utrigita
From what you just said there MJJ should be able to do jack about her.

Plus don't forget that he probably isn't going to reality warp her but more likely the surrounding to his advantage. He can take on psylocke fairly easy in my openion.

As for Nate Grey vs Cable tough very tough infact, they are basically the same, but with different opbringings, but Cable has a advantage in him being slightly more experienced then Nate Grey, which is why I give the edge to Cable its not much maybe a 5.1/10 nearly nothing just the small things between them that will make the difference.

Jaime Braddock maybe more powerful than MJJ 🙂 Remember, Jaime knows First Fallen. First Fallen should equal the Phoenix Force

Proteus kills psylocke easily

Originally posted by Utrigita
From what you just said there MJJ should be able to do jack about her.

Plus don't forget that he probably isn't going to reality warp her but more likely the surrounding to his advantage. He can take on psylocke fairly easy in my openion.

Mad Jim Jaspers is more powerful than Jamie Braddock.

Proteus is in a city full of metal easily within reach, has always had a limited range with regard to his reality manipulation as far as I can remember, fighting an opponent with better reflexes whom he can't affect, who wields high level telekinesis sufficient to shield half a city, of whom neither basic nor prior knowledge includes the knowledge of her immunity to reality manipulation, possession and telepathy - his primary initial means of attacking an opponent.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Mad Jim Jaspers is more powerful than Jamie Braddock.

Proteus is in a city full of metal easily within reach, has always had a limited range with regard to his reality manipulation as far as I can remember, fighting an opponent with better reflexes whom he can't affect, who wields high level telekinesis sufficient to shield half a city, of whom neither basic nor prior knowledge includes the knowledge of her immunity to reality manipulation, possession and telepathy - his primary initial means of attacking an opponent.

full powered proteus can warp reality on a large scale, and he doesnt even have to be where he is to do it, he just has to imagine it. psylocke, would literally be turned into a picasso looking piece of mutie flesh.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Mad Jim Jaspers is more powerful than Jamie Braddock.

Proteus is in a city full of metal easily within reach, has always had a limited range with regard to his reality manipulation as far as I can remember, fighting an opponent with better reflexes whom he can't affect, who wields high level telekinesis sufficient to shield half a city, of whom neither basic nor prior knowledge includes the knowledge of her immunity to reality manipulation, possession and telepathy - his primary initial means of attacking an opponent.

Based on you statement that really shouldn't change anything consideret that her genes has been altered to work against reality warping, MJJ is infinit more powerful but based on what you said he could be shit to her.

I will say it again he isn't going to reality warp her but everything around her, lets say she picks up a piece of Metal great but her genes isn't transfered into the metal piece, it is still vulnerable to reality warping and when has Psylocke ever shielded half a city?

Just to put in perspective Cable has fought the Silver Surfer held up a space station and battled the Silver surfer and shatteret his board, has any of the others done anything to rival that? no.

Again Nate Grey will probably lose to Cable and then Psylocke will be done for.

And to the one above no she cannot be reality warped, since she is immune to it.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Based on you statement that really shouldn't change anything consideret that her genes has been altered to work against reality warping, MJJ is infinit more powerful but based on what you said he could be shit to her.
Jaspers' reality manipulating abilities supersede Braddock's.
Originally posted by Utrigita
I will say it again he isn't going to reality warp her but everything around her, lets say she picks up a piece of Metal great but her genes isn't transfered into the metal piece, it is still vulnerable to reality warping and when has Psylocke ever shielded half a city?

Together with Rachel, she shields a city from Shi'ar weaponry and they turn the attack back on the ship. Half of the energy signature is hers.

The Psylocke Respect Thread is coming shortly, I've compiled somewhere near 100 scans, still working on some more 😄

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Jaspers' reality manipulating abilities supersede Braddock's.

Together with Rachel, she shields a city from Shi'ar weaponry and they turn the attack back on the ship. Half of the energy signature is hers.

I know but maybe you should specifi that she isn't immune to reality warping of high order. Instead of just saying that reality warping isn't working.

She shields a City impressive indeed, now how is that going to help her??? If you are shielding something behind a barriere I can still warp what is behind the barriere it isn't a reality warping neutral field that you created.

And what a teammate Psylocke got herself there, a omega leveled mutant.

And what a teammate Psylocke got herself there, a omega leveled mutant

Bad comparison. It's been stated SEVERAL times that Psylocke's TK is greater than Rachel's.

I know but maybe you should specifi that she isn't immune to reality warping of high order.

As far as I know...high order reality manipulation still won't affect her, its never been stated that it would.

Originally posted by What If...
Bad comparison. It's been stated SEVERAL times that Psylocke's TK is greater than Rachel's.

As far as I know...high order reality manipulation still won't affect her, its never been stated that it would.

Then I suggest we should send her after MJJ since reality warping doesn't work on her, 👆 great idea.

Has it now, ore is Psylocke just better at using it then Rachel is, Psylocke isn't a omegalevel mutant as far as I know.

I'm assuming any reality manipulating being that surpasses Jamie Braddock in ability can undo and or supersede Braddock's power.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Has it now, ore is Psylocke just better at using it then Rachel is, Psylocke isn't a omegalevel mutant as far as I know.
It's been stated Psylocke has more raw power. Rachel is more skilled in using telekinesis, as it's a power she's always had. Psylocke was originally a telepath who later gained telekinesis at the loss of her telepathy; her fine control is inferior to Rachel's.

Psionic reality manipulation through a psionic telekinetic forcefield; off the top of my head I can't think of anything conclusive to say it would work nor to say it wouldn't. Psylocke being immune to reality manipulation makes that moot anyway.

She can shield herself if he tries to attack her with the environment. She has better reflexes, has telekinesis and is in a city full of metal. Her immunities aren't common knowledge. Proteus tries to warp her or possess her and while he realises it doesn't do jack, he's impaled with a steel girder.

Elixir is an Omega level mutant. So?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm assuming any reality manipulating being that surpasses Jamie Braddock in ability can undo and or supersede Braddock's power.
It's been stated Psylocke has more raw power. Rachel is more skilled in using telekinesis, as it's a power she's always had. Psylocke was originally a telepath who later gained telekinesis at the loss of her telepathy; her fine control is inferior to Rachel's.

Psionic reality manipulation through a psionic telekinetic forcefield; off the top of my head I can't think of anything conclusive to say it would work nor to say it wouldn't. Psylocke being immune to reality manipulation makes that moot anyway.

She can shield herself if he tries to attack her with the environment. She has better reflexes, has telekinesis and is in a city full of metal. Her immunities aren't common knowledge. Proteus tries to warp her or possess her and while he realises it doesn't do jack, he's impaled with a steel girder.

Elixir is an Omega level mutant. So?

Thanks for saying that MJJ can hurt her.

How the hell can you have more raw power then a omega leveled mutant 😕, being more skilled is easily possibly she lost to emma frost in a telepathy battled but saying a not omega leveled mutant has more potential then a omega leveled now that is not logical.

Again none of you seemingly gets my point, he isn't gonna warp her but rather everything around her from what I have read he should be capable of warping metal in a quite great distance from her, You said he doesn't know her to be immune to reality warping but how does she know that he is gonna be vulnerable to Iron?

I didn't mentioned exilir why did you?