Originally posted by Pirates life fo
Just because she thinks Jack is a good man doesnt mean anything. You dont think she believes Will to be a good man?
No I dont mean that, I mean the honest and good side its probably the only part of Jack she would love.
hence the fact she brings it up into the curiosity conversation when they "are both wanting eachother but on their own terms" according to T&T
that scene is aparently about them discussing what the other should be if they were to ever be together..both actually do it by the end of DMC too.
and the important thing to note is that she;s talking about the kind of man he would have to be if he was to be with her in the future..if it was only sex she wanted from Jack she wouldnt be talking about that..she would just be talking about his hygeine (which she does mention but its not the main thing there)
Liz IMO clearly wants that good side from Jack but doesnt want to want it because she's with Will...much like Jack wants Elizabeth but doesnt want to want her (because he wants freedom IMO)...the writers say that about jack but I think liz is having the same struggle
thinking..maybe Will is gonna have (or is having) a similar struggle..he wants his father but doesnt want to want him because he feels he should be there for Elizabeth??
the wanting but not wanting to want is the classic theme of the reluctant hero. Usually the thing they want but dont want to want is the very thing they end up accepting
Which is why its odd that Elizabeth is so ready to save Will before even meeting the supernatural helper of the story (who according to the actress who plays her can see each character's true hearts and desires)..which IMO says Will is not her true elixir/arc doesn't mean its Jack either..
well ya my theory is that Liz already suffered beacuse she thought she lost JACK....when he died...and it made her realize that she loves him!!
so now im thinking something big and unfortunately bad needs to happen to LIZ because now JACK needs to suffer and see that losing LIZ is like losing himself!!! make him realize that hes head over heels in love with LIZ!!!
I dunno if she loves him but certainly she realizes that she cant betray Jack like this because she cares a lot for him now.
theres a huge difference in the 2 betrayals in both movies and the way each character behaves..in movie 1..Jack was fuming..Liz was fuming too
movie 2?? where id that go..well she did look pissed at him but it wasnt for the same reason..that look of hatred was because of how he's making her feel (guilty)
Originally posted by Pirates life fo
So is everyone still under the impression that if the movie doesnt end Jack/Liz then it wont hit the 1 billion mark?