Originally posted by KharmaDog
Deano...you're a moron.
Hate speach! Call the police! The FBI! The Democratic Convention!
You know, Deano (no you don't; you don't know anything), there are lots of countries with hate-speach laws already in place. And yet ... free speach has not come crashing to a halt in any of them.
Honestly, you're such a drama queen.
Re: Democrat Control Means Hate Bill Will Pass .Free Speech GONE
Originally posted by Deano
http://rense.com/general74/HATEBILL.HTMFor the past eight years, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith has tried unsuccessfully to pass its Orwellian federal "anti-hate" bill. It has failed largely for one reason: Republican control of Congress.
Repeatedly, Republican opponents of their hate bill, such as Rep. Roy Blunt and Sen. Bill Frist have been able, with Republican congressional backing, to block passage.
With Democrats now in control, such freedom-saving clout no longer exists. ADL's federal thought crimes bill, "The Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Act," will be reintroduced soon after January 1. Since no Democrat in Congress has ever voted against the hate bill, it will pass. Pres. Bush has said he will sign a "modified" hate bill. If he does, free speech in America will quickly come to an end.
Unless, that is, there arises an upheaval of protest from the American people. How can that happen? Answer: Alternative right-wing talk radio has helped make it happen before; it can do so again.
Spreading Net of Thought Crime Laws
Today, from Canada to California, to Europe and Australia, ADL-inspired "thought crime" laws are stripping nations of free speech. In Canada and many European countries, it is a crime punishable by heavy fines and even imprisonment to make use of the internet to criticize federally protected groups, such as homosexuals and Muslims.
Well, an anti-hate bill seems better then a hate bill. After things like the Patriot Act and so on it is hard to believe this could be so much more detrimental to fundamental rights. And I don't actually think the laws are Orwellian in nature (Orwell would be spinning in the grave at the way he is used) or expressily the field of "thought belief" - there are already laws in place in places like Australia where speech that incites hate or violance against particular groups is prohibited - speech is free so far as it doesn't harm others. I remember a case a couple of years ago by a group of homosexual men against a radio host based upon derogatory comments that villified gay people and could be seen as inciting gay hate and potentially violance - such laws here are consitutional and operate on the balance of everybodies rights to be safe which overwrites a persons right to say "Gay/etc people should be exterminated, they are a pox." I have no problem with such laws.
Wait - if the Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin and both controlled by the same masters - isn't it a moot point? Wouldn't it just easily come in under the Republicans as the Democrats if that was the case?
Re: Re: Democrat Control Means Hate Bill Will Pass .Free Speech GONE
Originally posted by Imperial_SamuraObviously the NWO made the Republicans oppose the bill, then engineered a Democrat win, then made the Democrats support the bill, all in a vicious ruse to steal our voices... literally... with microchips... nanopicomicrochips... fired from lasers. Then when people can no longer communicate vocally society will break down into chaos...
Wait - if the Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin and both controlled by the same masters - isn't it a moot point? Wouldn't it just easily come in under the Republicans as the Democrats if that was the case?
Re: Democrat Control Means Hate Bill Will Pass .Free Speech GONE
Originally posted by Deano
http://rense.com/general74/HATEBILL.HTMFor the past eight years, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith has tried unsuccessfully to pass its Orwellian federal "anti-hate" bill. It has failed largely for one reason: Republican control of Congress.
Repeatedly, Republican opponents of their hate bill, such as Rep. Roy Blunt and Sen. Bill Frist have been able, with Republican congressional backing, to block passage.
With Democrats now in control, such freedom-saving clout no longer exists. ADL's federal thought crimes bill, "The Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Act," will be reintroduced soon after January 1. Since no Democrat in Congress has ever voted against the hate bill, it will pass. Pres. Bush has said he will sign a "modified" hate bill. If he does, free speech in America will quickly come to an end.
Unless, that is, there arises an upheaval of protest from the American people. How can that happen? Answer: Alternative right-wing talk radio has helped make it happen before; it can do so again.
Spreading Net of Thought Crime Laws
Today, from Canada to California, to Europe and Australia, ADL-inspired "thought crime" laws are stripping nations of free speech. In Canada and many European countries, it is a crime punishable by heavy fines and even imprisonment to make use of the internet to criticize federally protected groups, such as homosexuals and Muslims.
Meh...If I get thrown in jail or tortured for my beliefs so be it. I'd rather be imprisoned for something that I believe in -- than be imprisoned whilst thinking I'm free.
Originally posted by PVS
im fine with that. free thought and expression is what i hope will stay preserved. however im content with not having the right to directly endanger others by intentionally prompting those around me to stampede, attack, and/or riot.
How do you mean freedom of expression would be allowed, if a freedom of speech is not?
What if you feel there is something wrong with you religious or political system? How exactly are you going to express yourself in a way that it doesnt violate freedom of speech.
Freedom of expression and freedom of speech, are pretty much mother and daughter.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Democrats are pansy pathetic dumbasses.See, freedom of speech is not gone.
Internet is still the only place where freedom of speech as reached an absolute. 👆
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Total freedom of speech is not laudable, Lil. Laws preventing the incitement of racial hatred are there to restrict speech with damn good cause.
That is a topic where the oinions of people are quite different. I for one see total freedom of speech as a rather good thing.