Originally posted by srankmissingninOf course. I mean a man that could never even hurt/touch Captain America, makes him a god compared to Captain America.
Compared to Captain America? Yes.
However Sabertooth has good duribility.
Those scans show wolverine with an upper hand in the first fight, the second, didnt really seem to go anywhere but a stalemate. Both were out their primary weapons and injured. It never went to one side or the other...
Cap is a remarkable fighter with enough stupidity to not quit and a shield that a godblast from Thor couldnt even dent. This fight really comes down to who gets first blow. If cap can get that shield to sabertooths head, it goes in caps favor, it not...cap puts up a good fight but is out muscled in the end...
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7I'd think cap might disagree since his head ended up in the ground.. either way should the fight continued, cap's blood clot would have caught up to him... like it ended up doing... 😐 wolverine would have healed, like he ended up doing, and cap would have ended up in the ground, like he eneded up doing.. 😐
Those scans show wolverine with an upper hand in the first fight, the second, didnt really seem to go anywhere but a stalemate. Both were out their primary weapons and injured. It never went to one side or the other...
Originally posted by jinzinOh please. You are overexaggerating the scope of the fight's outcome. The fact that Wolverine clobbered Cap from behind when he was distracted, says it all. Would you say that when Cap knocked out Wolvie in New Avenger's #6 fro mbehind when Wolvie was distracted is any indication of his win there? And as to his blood-clot, and should have the fight continued without any outside interference, Cap would have used the blade and Wolvie would be dead now.
I'd think cap might disagree since his head ended up in the ground.. either way should the fight continued, cap's blood clot would have caught up to him... like it ended up doing... 😐 wolverine would have healed, like he ended up doing, and cap would have ended up in the ground, like he eneded up doing.. 😐
The first set of scans that MC Hammer also posted shows half a fight. Wolverine was about to claw him, Cap was about to bring his shield around to block and fugging some 3rd interloper interrupted the fight. How can that even be a Wolvie win?
Second, I'm surprised that people consider classic Sabretooth to be worse than current Sabretooth. As far as I'm concerned classic Sabretooth took DD to task. Current Sabretooth is all about healing factor. And apparently, healing factor pwnzorz. Oops, unless you get your head cut off. Can Cap do it? Would Cap do it? He did it to Baron Blood, a frikkin vampire.
(I'm assuming this is non-adamantium laced Sabretooth. I don't know why people would question whether he has it or not. Unless I'm mistaken, I thought he only got the adamantium laced when Apocalypse gave it to him temporarily? Or has he gotten it back again since then?)
Sabes' strength and durability don't save him in this fight at all. Cap always fights people stronger than him by spades. And when you even talk about strength and durability, wth about Cap? For fug's sake, Cap was still standing after getting tackled into a brick wall at high speeds and getting pounded on by Iron Man in 'Civil War!'
Sabretooth as seen in his first fight with DD. That's classic Sabretooth and probably his most impressive showing. This is why I don't give Cap a 9/10. Because Sabretooth is not some bungling jobber animal. He's an effective killer and fighter. But no way he does better than Wolverine would. I can't believe people think that Wolverine would do worse against Cap than Sabretooth. Last time I saw Wolverine and Sabretooth fight one on one with no interference was when Wolverine owned him in X-Men #164 during the new 'Xorn' storyline.
Cap 7/10 Someone really ought to put out a Cap respect thread.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Oh please. You are overexaggerating the scope of the fight's outcome. The fact that Wolverine clobbered Cap from behind when he was distracted, says it all. Would you say that when Cap knocked out Wolvie in New Avenger's #6 fro mbehind when Wolvie was distracted is any indication of his win there? And as to his blood-clot, and should have the fight continued without any outside interference, Cap would have used the blade and Wolvie would be dead now.The first set of scans that MC Hammer also posted shows half a fight. Wolverine was about to claw him, Cap was about to bring his shield around to block and fugging some 3rd interloper interrupted the fight. How can that even be a Wolvie win?
Second, I'm surprised that people consider classic Sabretooth to be worse than current Sabretooth. As far as I'm concerned classic Sabretooth took DD to task. Current Sabretooth is all about healing factor. And apparently, healing factor pwnzorz. Oops, unless you get your head cut off. Can Cap do it? Would Cap do it? He did it to Baron Blood, a frikkin vampire.
(I'm assuming this is non-adamantium laced Sabretooth. I don't know why people would question whether he has it or not. Unless I'm mistaken, I thought he only got the adamantium laced when Apocalypse gave it to him temporarily? Or has he gotten it back again since then?)
Sabes' strength and durability don't save him in this fight at all. Cap always fights people stronger than him by spades. And when you even talk about strength and durability, wth about Cap? For fug's sake, Cap was still standing after getting tackled into a brick wall at high speeds and getting pounded on by Iron Man in 'Civil War!'
Sabretooth as seen in his first fight with DD. That's classic Sabretooth and probably his most impressive showing. This is why I don't give Cap a 9/10. Because Sabretooth is not some bungling jobber animal. He's an effective killer and fighter. But no way he does better than Wolverine would. I can't believe people think that Wolverine would do worse against Cap than Sabretooth. Last time I saw Wolverine and Sabretooth fight one on one with no interference was when Wolverine owned him in X-Men #164 during the new 'Xorn' storyline.
Cap 7/10 Someone really ought to put out a Cap respect thread.
Wolverine actually jumped him afterwards when cap slashed him with the sword, thats when he snapped into berserker rage, other than that wolverine had captain america beat, wolverine had already healed, captain america's leg was not going to heal and would have eventualy lead to him getting killed.
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Originally posted by jinzinMy friend, look. The guy said before him "when did Logan beat cap" so the guy showed Logan beating cap. So I believe he is right and you are not I'm afraid.
🤨the first fight cap lost.... 😐
the second fight cap needed to use multiple sneak attacks on a battle weary Logan who's healing factor's been a low percentage of what it should be since the origins and endings story arch, and had to jack the only weapon on 616 earth capible of putting Logan down permenantly with one hit just to stay competative, and EVEN THEN HE STILL got railed into the ground by wolverine...
you just kinda "owned" yourself there. 😬
Look closely. He was defending Wolverine.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0nope cap ended up with his face in the ground: no exxaggeration there.
Oh please. You are overexaggerating the scope of the fight's outcome.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Not really considering that cap had to fight wolverine after the entire BEGINNINGS AND ENDINGS story arch, the arch where wolverine's healing factors been taxed to the limit to point where he's capible of being put down by a few bullets, where he hasn't sleept or eaten since beginning his crusade, where it takes him more than a few seconds to heal his fore arms. Not really, condiner the fact that he aleardy fought with nuk before that. Not really considering the fact that cap attacked wolverine from behind when the fight started, threw his shield at wolverine while wolverine was trying to explain what happened (the only reason he was even able to set up that forearm thing). Not really considering the fact that he had to jack the muramasa blade just to stay competitive. All this your fretting about wolverine getting in one hit to cap head.. please...
The fact that Wolverine clobbered Cap from behind when he was distracted, says it all.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0well considering that wolverine wasn't knocked out from that, just knocked out of the way.... no.... 😐
Would you say that when Cap knocked out Wolvie in New Avenger's #6 fro mbehind when Wolvie was distracted is any indication of his win there?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0cap DID use the blade.. wolvie isn't dead is he? had the fight continued cap would have ended up on the ground in pain.. kinda like... you know.. what happened...
And as to his blood-clot, and should have the fight continued without any outside interference, Cap would have used the blade and Wolvie would be dead now.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0cause he wasn't about to bring his shield up..he says that that's what he needs to do but the fact that he's pretty much helpless when silver face injects his neck with a syrum and he did jack shit a about it is an indication that bringing up his shield was nothing more than hopes and dreams on his part.. wolverine having cap helpless = win...
The first set of scans that MC Hammer also posted shows half a fight. Wolverine was about to claw him, Cap was about to bring his shield around to block and fugging some 3rd interloper interrupted the fight. How can that even be a Wolvie win?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0he didn't have fighting skills... at all. he had mildy enhanced strength if that, and he had absolutely no healing factor... that's not worse?
Second, I'm surprised that people consider classic Sabretooth to be worse than current Sabretooth.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0exactly imagine what current sabes would do to the guy.
As far as I'm concerned classic Sabretooth took DD to task.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0which doesn't matter in his case since weapon x gave him an adamntium skeleton a couple years back.. HOM isn't canonical.. so that's that.
Current Sabretooth is all about healing factor. And apparently, healing factor pwnzorz. Oops, unless you get your head cut off.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Like I said weapon x..
Can Cap do it? Would Cap do it? He did it to Baron Blood, a frikkin vampire.(I'm assuming this is non-adamantium laced Sabretooth. I don't know why people would question whether he has it or not. Unless I'm mistaken, I thought he only got the adamantium laced when Apocalypse gave it to him temporarily? Or has he gotten it back again since then?)
read the series... or hell even in wolverine 164 they show him immediately after the surgery healing around his new admantium spine.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0you got it all wrong he doesn't need to be saved, cap does.
Sabes' strength and durability don't save him in this fight at all.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0lets see him do that wihen his guts are hanging out.
Cap always fights people stronger than him by spades. And when you even talk about strength and durability, wth about Cap? For fug's sake, Cap was still standing after getting tackled into a brick wall at high speeds and getting pounded on by Iron Man in 'Civil War!'
Originally posted by OneDumbG0most impressive showing? are you ****ing kidding me?!?! puh-lease!
Sabretooth as seen in his first fight with DD. That's classic Sabretooth and probably his most impressive showing.
you're telling me booting the boots to mrs. marvel, almost killing killpower, taking down holocaust, taking it to the entire team of x factor, dropping omega red, beating wolverine repeatidly, killing wendigo and turning him into a fur coat, KOing rogue in 3 hits, dropping pyslocke like it's a joke, curbstomping 2 of sinisters "supermen", putting generation x on the run, killing dozens of morlocks, thrashing cable, ripping shiva units apart, and blitzing through a forcefield strong enough to stop a full grown raging elephant aren't more impressive showings, than hurting daredevil a little bit?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0why not? give a reason.. I mean logic says that if sabretooth>>>wolverine in 90% of their fights than he probably CAN do better than wolverine could, and frankly wolverine's beaten cap...
This is why I don't give Cap a 9/10. Because Sabretooth is not some bungling jobber animal. He's an effective killer and fighter. But no way he does better than Wolverine would.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I can... too often people... like yourself don't know enough about sabretooth, his feats, and his history with wolverine to give him his proper due respect it's pretty simple to see why they would think that.
I can't believe people think that Wolverine would do worse against Cap than Sabretooth.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0you mean the off panal fight where sabretooth was beaten after fighting juggernaught all night, getting blown up by gambit and bum-rushed by northstar? you mean that fight? 🙄
Last time I saw Wolverine and Sabretooth fight one on one with no interference was when Wolverine owned him in X-Men #164 during the new 'Xorn' storyline.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0there already IS one.. 🤨
Cap 7/10 Someone really ought to put out a Cap respect thread.