Originally posted by Metalmanx
You mean that scan where Storm is hovering over a car's flames? Sure seemed to linger there for awhile, for having such an instant connection with the weather. She was there long enough to be hurt and highly uncomfortable, which means her powers are not instant. For if they were, she wouldn't have even been in that situation long enough to feel the burn.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
[B]By the way, you forget to take into account that when Storm produces offensive weather effects, she must first produce the appropriate weather. I can't think of any time in a comic when Storm needs lightning that she doesn't produce the necessary black storm cloud first. She creates and manipulates weather, but can't do anything that the planet can't handle. Thus, she cannot produce a lightning bolt from a regular, sunny day cloud. So, in order for her to have a lightning bolt ready to attack Jean, she would require unfairly-advantaged prep time.However, she can discharge lightning from her hands whenever she wants. But we're not talking about that kind of lightning.
Storm can call lightning from clear skys with the black clouds coming rapidly behind, i don't have the scan for this but she's done this very thing before. Also storm being able to shoot lightning from her hands proves enough for me.
Storm calls a massive full fledge thunderstorm in a blink of an eye,(it also say's before anyone present can react)
Half second/split second
Blink of an eye
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Additionally that was Emma's telepathy trained mind inside Storm's body. Telepaths think faster. They can learn lifetimes' worth of knowledge in literal minutes and seconds.
She was sitting in the flames burning alive, what do you mean think faster? That was a basic wind manipulation of the weather not telepathy, how does emma being in her body make a difference in that?
Originally posted by The Weather God
It's going to at least take an instant to snap storm's kneck and by then storm would have a lightning bolt sailing straight for her, making it a double K.O. like HOF said. Do keep in mind that lightning is quicker then thought so pretty much the lightning is sitting on her when she thinks of it, in which take no time at all, it will be a close match and i beileve it's a 50/50 chance for both ladies.
Okay, I am going to explain this as simply as I can.
Lets say that thought = 1. Lighting is 1/2 (half).
Jean only needs thought. Thought is 1.
Storm needs thought, which is 1. But, she also needs lightning after the thought, which is 1 + 1/2.
1+ 1/2 is longer then 1.
Thus, Jean is faster.
And in those pictures of yours, she did the thought in split second. The summoning in split second. But it stated nothing about the appearing of the things she summoned.
Storm wins because a lighning bolt is not the only thing she has in her arsenal.
If she can make the first move, she could ionize the atmosphere and electrocute flash when he makes his move simply by thinking it, or she can munipulate the air some kind of way. I mean flash still has to operate within the confines of the earth's atmosphere no matter how fast he's going.
Re: Flash vs Storm
Originally posted by xmarksthespotFlash ftw.
Storm gets to initiate one lightning bolt before he's allowed to perform any offensive or defensive action i.e. as soon as the thought process to manifest the lightning bolt is complete Flash can move. Flash isn't allowed to heal.Who dies?
Originally posted by 2damnloudRead the thread starter's post again.
Storm wins because a lighning bolt is not the only thing she has in her arsenal.If she can make the first move, she could ionize the atmosphere and electrocute flash when he makes his move simply by thinking it, or she can munipulate the air some kind of way. I mean flash still has to operate within the confines of the earth's atmosphere no matter how fast he's going.
Originally posted by Juntai
Read the thread starter's post again.
She'd still win.
The initiation of the lightining bolt is the ionization of the air.
The threadstarter didn't also specify if she couldn't be airborn while doing this.
She would have to use her powers in a smarter way, and that means not directing her energies directly AT flash, rather, messing with the atmosphere that Flash is IN.
Someone tell me flash can "outrun THE AIR" 🙄 😆 🤣
There's always a way to beat somone in the comics.
The threadstarter obviously set the perameters for Flash to "win", which is not fair.
What he/she should've said was "Storm can initiate whatever attack she wants....."
Originally posted by 2damnloud
She'd still win.The initiation of the lightining bolt is the ionization of the air.
The threadstarter didn't also specify if she couldn't be airborn while doing this.
She would have to use her powers in a smarter way, and that means not directing her energies directly AT flash, rather, messing with the atmosphere that Flash is IN.
Someone tell me flash can "outrun THE AIR" 🙄 😂 🤣
There's always a way to beat somone in the comics.
The threadstarter obviously set the perameters for Flash to "win", which is not fair.
What he/she should've said was "Storm can initiate whatever attack she wants....."
She can. It doesn't matter. The original poster said she could complete the thought to initiate an attack before the Flash could move.
Even with Storm in the air, it'll take time for the air to ionize. Plenty of time for the flash to chunk a rock at Storm - a rock that'll travel near the speed of light, AND have been phased through his hand with explosive results.
Originally posted by Soljer
She can. It doesn't matter. The original poster said she could complete the thought to initiate an attack before the Flash could move.Even with Storm in the air, it'll take time for the air to ionize. Plenty of time for the flash to chunk a rock at Storm - a rock that'll travel near the speed of light, AND have been phased through his hand with explosive results.
I remember storm Ionized the air in an instant in the comics.
Flash IS fast though.
It's hard to even concieve of someone being faster than the speed of thought.
Her best bet is to munipulate the atmosphere so no matter where he is, he'd still be under her power.
How else would storm's powers relate to speed and momentum??? Air currents???
Originally posted by 2damnloud
I remember storm Ionized the air in an instant in the comics.Flash IS fast though.
It's hard to even concieve of someone being faster than the speed of thought.
Her best bet is to munipulate the atmosphere so no matter where he is, he'd still be under her power.
How else would storm's powers relate to speed and momentum??? Air currents???
It doesn't matter if he's faster than the speed of thought - Storm is allowed to complete her first thought in this scenario.
What DOES matter is that he is faster than her powers. That means that he can do whatever he pleases in the time it takes for the ionization to take place. Including blowing a huge hole in her chest with a phased-rock.
Originally posted by Soljer
It doesn't matter if he's faster than the speed of thought - Storm is allowed to complete her first thought in this scenario.What DOES matter is that he is faster than her powers. That means that he can do whatever he pleases in the time it takes for the ionization to take place. Including blowing a huge hole in her chest with a phased-rock.
This is CRAZY!!!! 😆
How can you QUANTIFY the INSTANTANEOUS(a thought) as to compare it to "faster", "slower" etc.????
It's the comics so......
Storm needs a goddman UPGRADE--all these people running around faster than IMEASURABLE amounts of "time". 😆
This whole argument is moot on both sides. 😘
Could Flash run to China from where I am and back in the time it takes me to take one step back??? Even THAT is SLOWER than the speed of light and/or thought.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
This is CRAZY!!!! 😆How can you QUANTIFY the INSTANTANEOUS(a thought) as to compare it to "faster", "slower" etc.????
It's the comics so......
Storm needs a goddman UPGRADE--all these people running around faster than IMEASURABLE amounts of "time". 😆
This whole argument is moot on both sides. 😘
Could Flash run to China from where I am and back in the time it takes me to take one step back??? Even THAT is SLOWER than the speed of light and/or thought.
It's not slower than the speed of thought.
