Originally posted by jinzinYou believe Wolverine cutting Thanos is not the biggest bullshit ever ??? 😆 😆 😆
lolit has nothing to do with his strength but the cutting effeciency of his claws.. I can't scan anything for you though, don't have a scanner.
But the claws are sharp yes but he needs certain amount of strength behind them to delver a cutting blow.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Just thought I'd point a few things out. When he stabbed Thanos, Thanos was trying to put on a show for Mistress Death. Surfer is non cannon unless I'm mistaken. He's also showed an inability to cut Thing before. And regarding Thor...There's no proof that Thor lost his arm to Wolverine. Check it out, this is the page in question...
Yes Wolverine DID slash at Thor's arm, but if you look in the bottom corner you'll see that his arm is still intact. Here's a close up...
See, it's still there. Also notice that when Wolverine slashed at him, it was just above the wrist.Now later on when he's missing an arm, it's missing from above the elbow. Here's a pic...
The entire battle took place off panel, and there's no proof how he lost the arm, but there's no way it was from the initial shot.
surfer isn't canon but the characters were the same.
likewise the only time wolverine showed an inability to cut thing wasn't canon.
thanos was proving himself superior to the durability of drax, hulk, namor, etc etc etc... he crushed caps shield into debris, not much reason to assume he let himself be chumped by wolverine "for show" he didn't do it for anyone else like that.
and I didn't say thor got his arm cut off.. I said cut up... which is what happened.
Originally posted by FearMe
You believe Wolverine cutting Thanos is not the biggest bullshit ever ??? 😆 😆 😆But the claws are sharp yes but he needs certain amount of strength behind them to delver a cutting blow.
Originally posted by jinzin
surfer isn't canon but the characters were the same.
Originally posted by jinzin likewise the only time wolverine showed an inability to cut thing wasn't canon. [/B]
I don't know what it's from, it's just something I ran across. If it's non cannon then my bad.
Originally posted by jinzin thanos was proving himself superior to the durability of drax, hulk, namor, etc etc etc... he crushed caps shield into debris, not much reason to assume he let himself be chumped by wolverine "for show" he didn't do it for anyone else like that.[/B]
Originally posted by jinzin and I didn't say thor got his arm cut off.. I said cut up... which is what happened. [/B]
Yes, Wolverine's claws CAN cut through Hercules' skin.
No, Hercules is not "terrified" of Wolverine or his claws.
Hercules has done battle with all kinds of gods and monsters.
He even gets into fights with Thor just for fun.
He even had Thor beat in hand-to-hand WHILE completely drunk!
In a real bloodlust fight, Wolvie can slice and dice Herc
all he wants.....Hercules won't die. Wolverine will.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Doesn't matter, non cannon doesn't count. He's never shown the ability
he did show the ability there... however if you want to argue non canon doesn't count, that's absolutely fine.
Originally posted by darthgooberyes, it's a non canon source.
Wait, are you talking about this...I don't know what it's from, it's just something I ran across. If it's non cannon then my bad.
Originally posted by darthgooberletting himself get hit and reducing his durability are two different things.. he didn't reduce it for the likes of hulk and darax so why assume he did so for wolverine?
What are you talking about? He let just about EVERYONE get in a shot before he put them down. The only person that didn't get to get in an attack was Quasar. So yeah, he took one for show.
Originally posted by darthgooberand you can tell with thors big mits covering it up?
His arm doesn't really look cut up either.
Originally posted by darthgooberI don't thinkg thor would be grasping his arm over a sctratch, give him a little more credit than that...
The most you can argue for is scratched, because there's no blood.
Originally posted by darthgooberso then he's holding his arm because? what, the blunt force trauma of wolverine's blow was so great? I think you're better off arguing that he was cut.
And even the scratch is arguable
Originally posted by darthgooberhe's also drawn to cut right through the arm in that panal, not exactly the best time to be nitpicking.
because it's not clear what the marks on his arm is. In fact, if you'll notice, Wolverine connects on his wrist ban, which is still intact on the close up scan.
Originally posted by Zahit
Yes, Wolverine's claws CAN cut through Hercules' skin.
thank you.
Originally posted by Zahit
No, Hercules is not "terrified" of Wolverine
Originally posted by Zahitincorrect... "zounds!" and then running and/or looking for cover TWICE seems to indicate otherwise.
or his claws.
Originally posted by Zahitwho in the MU hasn't?
Hercules has done battle with all kinds of gods and monsters.
Originally posted by Zahitgood for him
He even gets into fights with Thor just for fun. He even had Thor beat in hand-to-hand WHILE completely drunk!
Originally posted by Zahithe may not die but he an be rendered unconcious from damage can he not? he can be rendered immobile from lost limbs can he not?
In a real bloodlust fight, Wolvie can slice and dice Herc
all he wants.....Hercules won't die. Wolverine will.
Originally posted by jinzin
he did show the ability there... however if you want to argue non canon doesn't count, that's absolutely fine.
Originally posted by jinzin yes, it's a non canon source. [/B]
Originally posted by jinzin letting himself get hit and reducing his durability are two different things.. he didn't reduce it for the likes of hulk and darax so why assume he did so for wolverine?[/B]
Originally posted by jinzin and you can tell with thors big mits covering it up??[/B]
Originally posted by jinzin I don't thinkg thor would be grasping his arm over a sctratch, give him a little more credit than that...so then he's holding his arm because? what, the blunt force trauma of wolverine's blow was so great? I think you're better off arguing that he was cut. [/B]
Originally posted by jinzin he's also drawn to cut right through the arm in that panal, not exactly the best time to be nitpicking. [/B]
Originally posted by darthgooberspiderman's also managed to stagger a "super hulk". he didn't hurt thanos though. and thanos only weighs a fraction of spiderman's lifting strength. in any case again there's no sufficient evidence that thanos dropped his durability for anybody, his power level of course, but his durability? no...
But he did(and not just for Wolverine). Everyone's shots(with the Exeption of Captain America), had more effect on him than they should have. Even Spiderman managed to stagger him.
Originally posted by darthgooberit's a bad artist's interpretation.. again in the sequence before that wolverine is shown to be cutting right through his arm, his swing didn't stop whatsoever.
he's not covering the area that was slashed.
Originally posted by darthgoobersure he is, he's grasping at his own arm, making a fist doesn't mean he wasn't cut.
He's making a fist, he's not really grasping at anything.
Originally posted by darthgooberaside from thor grasping at his arm you mean? yeah no indication whatsoever... 🙄
No, he slashed, but it didn't do anything. There's no real indication of injury on Thor's part, so he didn't cut through anything.
Originally posted by Zahitit has nothing to do with what I think.. wolverine HAS knocked out hercules.
you think Logan can knock-out Hercules?
Originally posted by Zahitdepends.. in a straight hand to hand.. probably he's got a great chance yes....
you really think Wolverine can beat Hercules in full on battle?
Originally posted by Zahit
is there no end to your madness?
never. 😈
Originally posted by jinzin
spiderman's also managed to stagger a "super hulk". he didn't hurt thanos though. and thanos only weighs a fraction of spiderman's lifting strength. in any case again there's no sufficient evidence that thanos dropped his durability for anybody, his power level of course, but his durability? no...
Originally posted by jinzin it's a bad artist's interpretation.. again in the sequence before that wolverine is shown to be cutting right through his arm, his swing didn't stop whatsoever. [/B]
Originally posted by jinzin sure he is, he's grasping at his own arm, making a fist doesn't mean he wasn't cut. [/B]
Originally posted by jinzin aside from thor grasping at his arm you mean? yeah no indication whatsoever... 🙄 [/B]
Originally posted by darthgooberhe didn't even really "effect" him.. he hit him and it did nothing, made his head move and that's about it.... that doesn't dictate he was dropping his durability for anybody there.
The fact that Spiderman's shot affected him as much as the shot's the Cosmic being's were hitting him with in the next issue IS proof.
Originally posted by darthgooberexcept for the fact that the contact was at the top of the wrist but above the point of the joint... closer to the forarm... he can't bend his forarm back so that's not what happened...
So his wrist bent on contact, and then snapped back into place when the resistance was gone. What's your point?
Originally posted by darthgooberI thought you were talking about the cut arm.. look he hits wolverine so what? in the very next panal he is INDEED grasping at his arm.. and if wolverine did not do the damage what phantom force did? he wasn't grasping his arm BEFORE the claw strike sooooo. 😕
Making a fist means that he wasn't grasping at his arm.
Originally posted by darthgooberright there at the bottom of the page.. that's exactly what he's doing... 🤨
He never did.
Originally posted by jinzin
he didn't even really "effect" him.. he hit him and it did nothing, made his head move and that's about it.... that doesn't dictate he was dropping his durability for anybody there.
Originally posted by jinzin except for the fact that the contact was at the top of the wrist but above the point of the joint... closer to the forarm... he can't bend his forarm back so that's not what happened...[/B]
Originally posted by jinzin I thought you were talking about the cut arm.. look he hits wolverine so what? in the very next panal he is INDEED grasping at his arm.. and if wolverine did not do the damage what phantom force did? he wasn't grasping his arm BEFORE the claw strike sooooo. 😕[/B]
Originally posted by jinzin right there at the bottom of the page.. that's exactly what he's doing... 🤨 [/B]
Originally posted by jinzin
once, has opposed the the dozens of times he wasn't knocked out by things dozens to hundreds of times stronger than an elk kick.. but it's nice to see how "objective" your critique on PIS can be.. 🙄
I'm pretty sure that he was just meaning that because something happens it doesn't mean that it is always valid.
Originally posted by jinzin
he was off balance and running away with haste as wolverine began to attack him with them.. he started laughing after wolverine got his claws stuck...
he had the same scared reaction when wolverine popped em in his mini too.
And thats not off balance, its dodging. Logan claws can most probably cut Herc, especially nowadays, the same way he can cut other *top guns*. The main problem is that in direct comparation, Logan wasent showed faster than the greek in order to attack at his likeness.
And ironically the one example where he *migth* been faster you cant even use it, because no one knows what happened.
Originally posted by jinzin
surfer isn't canon but the characters were the same.
likewise the only time wolverine showed an inability to cut thing wasn't canon.
thanos was proving himself superior to the durability of drax, hulk, namor, etc etc etc... he crushed caps shield into debris, not much reason to assume he let himself be chumped by wolverine "for show" he didn't do it for anyone else like that.
and I didn't say thor got his arm cut off.. I said cut up... which is what happened.
Not quite. He was indeed putting up a show for mistress Death. Starfox claims exactly that. Mephisto the same. The moment where the Titan himself claims they wer too close because of the show off and stopped doing that was rigth before the Cosmics showed up after the failing attemp of Silver Surfer.
Originally posted by jinzin
once, has opposed the the dozens of times he wasn't knocked out by things dozens to hundreds of times stronger than an elk kick.. but it's nice to see how "objective" your critique on PIS can be.. 🙄
Does that means that Thanos being stabbed by him its PIS too? It was a one example against dozens showings battling way more powerful beings without even being cut.
