Why Torture us with another Superman Returns movie.

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
The story was Garbage and his son thing was crap! Oh and Loius Lane was horrible, didn't seem like her, and I hated Lex's comic relief type. The whole movie felt like I seen it before since they get a guy that looks like reve, used the same freaking Diaologue and music(ok I liked the old music but every 5 secs when supes spits "Music plays" "Supes says hey" Music playsssssssssssss. Anyone notice that all Supes did for the most part was lift Something lol, first he lifts this, then he lifts something in the same way he did before but just heavir then he lifts again.....They need a bad guy to fight him ahh, and not Zod people again...

My brother got the Dvd and was watching it, 30 mins later he was done, I was like huh? He said oh, I watched the beginning credits which was cool and the music that played, then he skipped up to Supes saving the plane, after that he went to 5 secs of supes saving fire,some random people, guy with machine gun, and finally the end where he lifts again. All the parts Supes is doing something took like 5 mins except the plane and the end.

I like how the movie looks, and how supes flys blah blah blah blah blah, and all the visuals but the story was garbage and made me almost fall asleep because it was a copy of old superman's but worse.

With that said, the movie slaughters such shows as the Hulk, Catwoman and so on. Yeah, so I am not saying it is the worse crap ever made, I mean if Superman 1 and 2 didn't come out I would give this one more credit but since it is like a remake with crap in it, it is just an Eh, could watch this movie.

Part 2 should be better....maybe lol

Originally posted by bakerboy
Superman returns= dull and failed movie.

X-men 3: enteraining movie, but worse than that other x men movies.

tim burton batman movies, joel schumacher batman movies, catwoman, man spider movies, fantastic four= crap

yep. amen to that👆

Originally posted by brainchild81
To be honest though, you just have beef w/the Spidey films. I think I remember you dissing the Spidey films while taking up for Elektra😆. One day you'll look @ the Spidey films and realize how good they were. This film SR is crap. I'd even say I liked the Keaton Batfilms better. FF wasn't great, but was still more entertaining than the borefest that was SR. Supes is better than Catwoman & on par w/X3. Crap.

thats like expecting me to one day to like those crappy garbage and over rated Keaton Batman movies as well.Never has happened,never will happen with the man-spidey movies either.one day they will restart that series like they did with batman and people like you will one day wake up and realise they are inferiour films like people have with the burton batman movies since batman begins came out.People used to think the keaton batman films were amazing,now with batman begins,people are waking up to the fact that they are not that good,some anyways,some are still hopeless,same will happen with those films.people will then see how bad and horrible those films are as well.Naw the Burton Batman movies are even more crappy easily.

Yeah mane. & I guess I'll realize Elektra was good too. Elektra good. Spidey bad!😆

Originally posted by Mr Parker
thats like expecting me to one day to like those crappy garbage and over rated Keaton Batman movies as well.Never has happened,never will happen with the man-spidey movies either.one day they will restart that series like they did with batman and people like you will one day wake up and realise they are inferiour films like people have with the burton batman movies since batman begins came out.People used to think the keaton batman films were amazing,now with batman begins,people are waking up to the fact that they are not that good,some anyways,some are still hopeless,same will happen with those films.people will then see how bad and horrible those films are as well.Naw the Burton Batman movies are even more crappy easily.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Yeah mane. & I guess I'll realize Elektra was good too. Elektra good. Spidey bad!😆

well yeah when the day comes that you grow up and become mature, you'll realise that.Obviously you have a really really bad memory because you forgot our conversation we had where i stated the obvious- that the man-spidey movies are kiddie flicks that were targeted mostly at kiddies where Elektra is an adult themed comicbook film aimed mostly at adults so naturally YOU cant appreciate that movie. 😆 I dont merely say that they are kiddie flicks just because I hate them either.As my enemy doc potatoe will tell you, I hate and bash the Keaton Batman films every bit just as much as i do the man-spidey films.He'll tell you how we got into it several times in the batman section about that.But I can at least admit that with those crappy Keaton Batman movies they weren't kiddie flicks,that they were made mostly for adults.so I'll repeat this AGAIN for you even though you wont remember it since your memory is so bad.you want to watch a kiddie flick comicbook movie thats made mostly for kids,then yeah stick with your MAN-SPIDER movies,but I myself like comicbook movies that are adult themed with a good storyline behind them so therefore I will stick to Elektra. 😛 If you have anything else to say to me about the man-spider movies then pm me about it.This is the superman section and this thread is made to discuss the superman returns movie.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I doubt it. I liked the original Batman when I was a child and I still enjoy it now. Returns- Batman and Robin were all garbage but I still enjoy the original. I did enjoy the spidermans also but I didn't fell they were awesome. But they weren't crap. I felt the Spiderman series had the problem with Spidermans character, They haven't been able to hit the spot on a nerd/smartass but I still enjoyed them and am looking forward to 3.

Well Batman 89 IS worth sitting through since the hot looking Kim Basinger is in it and she has such a huge role in it. 😄 She is the ONLY redeeming factor about it. 😄 I did tape record it off cable once so that I can always look at the scenes that have Kim Basinger in them and fastforward through the ones that dont have her in it. 😄 But for the most part,people who liked the keaton batman movies back then,the majority of them are finally waking up and realising after seeing Batman Begins that even the first one wasnt that good except for the people that are keaton/Burton lovers.Those people are hopeless and will NEVER take the blinders off and see how horrible those films really are because of their blind love and devotion to Keaton.

But as I said in my last post though,enough about THOSE movies,lets talk about Superman Returns since thats what this thread was made to discuss.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Man I cant believe it.Its bad enough they made us sit through that first crappy Superman Returns movie.I said all along that another superman movie was not neccessary.That the first two were such great magical movies that it was pointless to make another Superman film.Superman Returns was so dumb and not at all unique but thats not enough for them.They just had to go ahead with plans to make another crappy superman returns sequal. 😠 I said all along that unlike the batman movies it was totally unnessary to restart superman all over again the way they did with Batman with Batman Begins because the first tow superman movies unlike the batman movies did justice to the comicbook and there were already two great superman movies made so a restar was stupid and totally unnessary. 😠 I stand by that original statement .

I agree with you for the most part. I just rented Superman Returns - from Blockbuster today. I'm halfway through it, and I can barely stay awake. The movie thus far is as lackluster as it is unoriginal - and the story is extremely confusing. We're not given any indication as to where Superman has been these past few years, what he has found out about his origin, or why he even went into outer space in the first place(Him returning from outerspace in his old spaceship is laughable -- I mean -- how(and where) did he receive the technology and parts to fix it? How was he able to launch it into orbit, and back into earth's atmosphere - without any type of Satellite system detecting it? Yes I can accept a few logical plot holes here and there..and I'm all for suspension of disbelief - but at least try to create some semblence of logic and coherency within the story. Don't just be lazy and not even attempt to explain anything.)

As far as the acting goes - it is very wooden and phony - but to be fair - I don't think we can completely blame the actors for this - seeing as how they had a horrible script and plot to work with. Brandon Routh(sp?) does do a good job pulling off a Reeve-ish Clark Kent/Superman - but it comes across as more of an impersonation, as opposed to him actually acting and really getting into the character(I have to say looks wise - he is perfect for Superman. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point we were to find out that he is a clone of Christopher Reeves).

Truly - the biggest mistake regarding this movie - was making it a continuation of the 2 Donner(sp?) Films. I had heard that it(Superman Returns) was originally intended to have a plot similar to the "Death of Superman" storyline - and loosely based on a script written by Kevin Smith(which would have probably made it much more entertaining and original).

The only good thing I have to say about this movie(thus far) - is about the special effects, which are truly spectacular. Still - I would trade the old special effects(which even by today's standards are pretty good) - over the new ones, if it would allow for a better story. All in all - I give Superman Returns(from what I've seen thus far) - a C minus - and that's only because of the effects. I can honestly attest to liking the last 2 Superman films of the 80's(3 and 4) more so than this one - even as abysmal as they were(Actually Superman 3 wasn't so bad - the evil Superman scenario and the junkyard battle between him and Clark Kent was classic. Superman 4 - on the other hand, left much to be desired).

Regarding a sequel. I don't think they should do one. They need to start from scratch again. Re-cast the movie - get a new director, new cast and what not. Any relaunch will have to be done in the next 5 to 10 years, however , because its going to take myself(and others) awhile to get this dreadful movie out of our systems.

I dont know why so many people have beef with Superman returns,I thought the movie was Kick ass.

I know, and most people i know say its great, then i come on here and they say its crap and such... all the weirdos are on here?

Originally posted by K.Diddy
I dont know why so many people have beef with Superman returns,I thought the movie was Kick ass.

just when i thought you had good taste in comicbook movies when you told me you agreed with me that The Burton Batman movies and the man-spider movies suck to. 🙁

Originally posted by Mr Parker
just when i thought you had good taste in comicbook movies when you told me you agreed with me that The Burton Batman movies and the man-spider movies suck to. 🙁

Okay,I shouldn't of said the movie was ''Kickass'' it wasn't, but I dont think it is half as bad as half of this forum is making out, I mean I watched it and it kept me entertained for the whole movie,so therefor I am happy with it😕

😆 It's amazing how people who think Elektra was better than the Spidey films also think they have good taste in movies. Returns was a snoozefest. Have him fight somebody tough next movie please.

I agree with brainchild, in my perspective, a reintro of superman was kinda needed, he's been out and left everything to batman, xmen and spiderman (all the others ultimately sucked).

He's had a nice reintro, i think, because it had heart, moving scenes, which the originals lacked because of the cheesy style of them, not saying them films were crap. not at all.

Now where I agree, someone who can punch superman and superman can punch in the next film is what we all want, somewhat a clever move by singer because now everyone has a taste of what superman can do, (lifting billions of tons, bullet in eye, flying faster than a mini gun bullet)

Expectations for the next one could be huge, not always a good thing as we know but will help the films move of actually making a 'good' profit, (notice the commas) as we all know it made slight profit, apparently enough to cement a sequel, but I've seen miracles performed for some films that sucked and still got a sequel.

Spiderman films are entertaining, i think such a strong objective view shown by certain members is, of course their opinion, but tale of the tape shows these films are blockbusters and the highest selling superhero movies, and also are amoung the biggest top selling films ever, which is a feat on it's own.

Superman is back, his return was what I expected, some love a lot, some hate a lot, majority sit in the middle of these to opinions because what was to be expected really?

Now as I said as long as the films quality of returns is the same with, and here's an idea to chuck in, the three goons that got crushed at the end, maybe mix with the crystal-land/kryptonite, to form strange creatures in the sequel, brainiac finds them, and then takes the island and them back to earth, judged by their course of movement, thus finding superman. 4 super powered beings against superman right their! plus there's a history between superman and the island/goons from returns.

Originally posted by brainchild81
😆 It's amazing how people who think Elektra was better than the Spidey films also think they have good taste in movies. Returns was a snoozefest. Have him fight somebody tough next movie please.

thanks for showing how you constantly ignore points on how Elektra is better and how horrible your memory is. 😆 seriously dude you have severe memory comprehension problems that need to be looked into 😆 😆

Originally posted by K.Diddy
Okay,I shouldn't of said the movie was ''Kickass'' it wasn't, but I dont think it is half as bad as half of this forum is making out, I mean I watched it and it kept me entertained for the whole movie,so therefor I am happy with it😕

Oh Okay I see what you mean.Yeah I understand and agree with you.I also dont think its half as bad as everybody is making it out to be either.I didnt care for it mainly because it wasnt anywhere near as good as the first two superman movies were and unlike the batman movies,a superman restart wasnt needed but like you said,its not near as bad a film as everybody here is making it out to be,better than a lot of other comicbook films just not anywhere near the magical masterpiece that the first two superman movies were and wasnt neccessary to be made.I take that back then,yeah you got very good taste in comicbook movies. 😉

wow, mr parker has shown some kind of remorse and a clear gesture of opinion... now i've seen everything... im not too sure on the originals, i cant get my head around the crap special fxs they had back then lol

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Oh Okay I see what you mean.Yeah I understand and agree with you.I also dont think its half as bad as everybody is making it out to be either.I didnt care for it mainly because it wasnt anywhere near as good as the first two superman movies were and unlike the batman movies,a superman restart wasnt needed but like you said,its not near as bad a film as everybody here is making it out to be,better than a lot of other comicbook films just not anywhere near the magical masterpiece that the first two superman movies were and wasnt neccessary to be made.I take that back then,yeah you got very good taste in comicbook movies. 😉

🍺 Thanks for accepting my opinion Mr Parker

Thank me by answering my pm's.a long time ago I would pm you asking you questions about comicbook films but you stopped answering them even when i would post on threads of yours in the off topic section that I sent you a pm which made no sense because I have always respected your opinions because like i said,you've always had good taste in comicbook films. 😠 that being the case,if I send you a pm will you promise to answer it this time?

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Thank me by answering my pm's.a long time ago I would pm you asking you questions about comicbook films but you stopped answering them even when i would post on threads of yours in the off topic section that I sent you a pm which made no sense because I have always respected your opinions because like i said,you've always had good taste in comicbook films. 😠 that being the case,if I send you a pm will you promise to answer it this time?

If I have the time I will